Welders!

[krue]

Everytime we turn around somebody's asking about a welder. I figure we'll start a thread where all the experts chime in on the various welders. When we have everything we'll move it to the FAQ page.
Personally I have a Hobart Handler 135 with CO2. I am in the process of learning how to use it and am looking to upgrade to Argon mix soon.

[BIGPIMP]

i have a lincoln 225 arc welder ,it's what i grew up on ,my father had his own welding shop in houston and brookshire texas i learn to arc weld when i was about 12 years old . so i am comfortable with the lincoln . peace

[>X<]

i'll type, since i'm in class and bored anyway.

i have a millermatic 175 (http://www.millerwelds.com/products/...llermatic_175/)
i love it. i do paint/body/restoration work and use it probably 4 times a week, sometimes every day. for body work and light frame work this is a great welder.

at work we have a millermatic 210 (http://www.millerwelds.com/products/...llermatic_210/)
its great too, but its a pita to move around. it works better for heavy frame work than my little 175. but i can fit my 175 in the trunk of my car.

IMO its impossible to do precision body work welding with a regular old style flip down hood. you must keep the wire on a spot perfectly, and when you flip down the helmet something is going to move. for body work you should get the kind that you can flip down the lense with your chin, or an auto darkening helmet. i have this one (http://www.millerwelds.com/products/...ets/elite.html) and its the best thing since sliced bread. mine is black though, i'm not paying extra for "custom" sticker paint. now 3m has a speedglass model thats a little cheaper for probably the same quality helmet. mine is also very very light and has that rubber piece that is very comfortable to wear. its so clear that i can walk around the shop with it down if i wanted to.

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link to the 3m hoods

http://www.autotoolmart.com/cgi-bin/...75&p_catid=167

[Rollie396]

MM210 is what's in my garage.Has a couple cool features and will do anything you want to do on a vehicle.I suppose that if you are used to the smaller machines,this one might be considered a pain to move around,but I like it just fine .I will say this though,if you are debating between the 210 and the 251,go with the 251 without question.Money was the deciding factor for me but the 251 has alot of cool features that the 210 lacks.
I agree with an autodark helmet,especially for those just learning (but are serious about it).I'm one of the tools that spent the extra on the flamed helmet....it was on sale what could I do?

[longnlow72]

get an auto darkening helmet, definatly gas not fluxcore, and flapper discs for your grinder

[624whldr]

had it 20yrs love abused it taken it every were on was need its only 110 amp 120 volt machine it runs .023 and .030 witch are perfect for all body work youll d, it take 2 and 10 lbs spools and i use 75 25 mix gas,a tig would be the only nicer weld i could suggest but both have there good points, also keep a plasma cutter on you wish list as there is nothing ive used more on restoration jobs and fab work auto darkening shield a mush for the welders dark sun glasses for the plasma cutter and tacking with the mig in those contorsionest type places.
just my .02
Ed

[blazerparts]

auto darkening is the best........gas shielding, short cirduiting transfer is good for light guage, anything over a quarter inch or if welding in anything over a 5mph breeze, use fluxcore.

[chevy283]

is this a good welder im a noob. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=44567

[DURRTY]

Originally Posted by chevy283

is this a good welder im a noob. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=44567

NO those welders are not good. If you dont know the difference it might seem OK, but its not!!!. Even for body work on thin metal that welder does not put out enough current also they do not put out a consistant current. A friend of mine went out and bought one and after about 5 minutes I made him take it back.
Both Lincoln and Miller make nice small 110 welders. I have had a Lincoln 135 for many years running .035 flux core (inner shield) and that will weld safely up to about 3/16 MAX!! anything thicker and your really pushing it even with allot of skill its hard to get proper penetration. Ive run it with hard wire(.030) and gas(75-25 argon CO2) and I didn't like how it ran, not hot enough, BUT it does run it well enough to weld body panels but it needs to be maxed out on power. I also have a miller-matic 210 that can run any wire and gas I could need in my garage.

You can buy Anti-spatter spray from weld shops and even home depot sells it. It makes clean up from flux core wire much easier. Get a wire brush for your angle grinder that will get most off anyway.

I say this for safety and for piece of mind. You do not want to weld something together on a truck that can be worth more than 100 of those crappy welders.

also you can have the best, latetest and greatest welding machine in the world but if the operator is inexperienced it makes hardly a difference. practice and have someone experienced help out. and practice more. LOL

[johnyreb]

Harber Freight has these on sale for $99
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=94056

[johnyreb]

What about this one instead???
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=55525

[DURRTY]

LOL!! no man they are not decent or reliable welders. I know they are cheap. you are getting what you pay for them. They might work OK for a awhile but not reliably or consistently There truly is a reason they can sell them for so much less than a quality welder. Check out Miller Lincoln and Hobart, all these companies do is make welding machines and supplies.

check these out http://www.mylincolnelectric.com/Cat...eet.asp?p=2515

http://www.millerwelds.com/products/...llermatic_140/

thats a prefect start and don't sweat the the MSRP you can always find better deals on the internet or shopping around town
very reliable and parts like tips nozzles and everything else is easy to find.
I fabricate/weld for a living and I'm not paid to sell this stuff i use much bigger machines for work but at home i have had the lincoln 135 for 5 years and its been used hard and have never had trouble with it also i have a Miller 210 MIG welder for bigger jobs. AND you can have them serviced if something goes bad in them you don't have to buy a new one.

hope this helps out...
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[twitch4187]

chevy283 I have the same welder you are asking about. Its cheap so thats a plus but it prolly wont be around forever like the miller or snap on brands. Another thing its great for thin metal nothing over 1/4 in and thats pushing it. Me and my uncle used mine to weld together a cart out of 1/8 angle and it worked great. If you need something to weld 1/4 or bigger pick another welder.

[longnlow72]

chevy 283, i would get one that altleast can have gas, it makes better and cleaner welds i have a harbor freight welder and it works great for body work but i have it hooked up to gas

[funky3821]

I'm currently using that mig-100 and I like it. Keep in mind that I am in no way a body expert! The main downfall though is how much the flux will splatter which means more grinding for clean up! But for the price I don't mind

Gas is nice before the mig-100 was in the garage I was forced to use a buddies Gas welder, not sure on the model but man it was clean!

[68haywagon]

I need a recommendation on a welder. I will be purchasing one in about a month. I know a want/need a 120v MIG. I'm only going to use it for sheetmetal and thin metals- no heavy stuff like frames. I am a beginner so I will most likely have to teach myself how to use it. I will be using it for some body work for now(rockers, cab corners, floor pieces, etc) and maybe a few projects in the future but not very often. I don't want to spend a whole lot of money either ($300 or so).

Now I was looking through the craftsman catalog this weekend and saw this for $299 with the craftsman membership which my dad has. Any good?

I know I've seen alot about miller and lincoln here. Which models would be recommended? I don't want a piece of junk that will end up being a $300 paper weight.

This is the only welder section I could find, so if this was answered before...please forgive my ignorance.

Thanks for any info,
Mike

[blaserman]

What type of welder does not warp bodt panels? I heard there is one but do not know which one.

Art

[Longstep70]

nyone know anything about this brand? Are they any good?
http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/p...ProductID=1288

[flat57]

I bought an inexpensive Clarke a few years ago, and couldn't weld a thing with it. It would spit and sputter, and just didn't work well. The first time I tried a Hobart Handler, I created a nearly perfect weld. You can get a hobart 135 for less than the Clarke on the Eastwood sight, and although the Clarke may be OK, I know you can't go wrong with the Hobart. The Handler 135 is $380 at Harbor Freight. Add a tank and regulator, and you'll be into it for under $500. I've seen them cheaper than $380 too.

Also, unless you really need the higher current, you may be happier with a 125V system because you can take it anywhere and use it.

[ECM]

Originally Posted by blaserman

What type of welder does not warp bodt panels? I heard there is one but do not know which one.
Art

TIG welding puts the leat amount of heat into a material, making it warp panels the least. It's also the hardest to learn, and most expensive process to use. But man, can you crank out some pretty welds.

Ever seen anyone TIG two aluminum cans together? That's impressive.

An excellent place to get a good idea on what a welder is really worth is to shop around online. The local welding shops have pretty high prices all over the country.

I'd recommend www.cyberweld.com as a start. I bought my Miler 175 from them back two years ago for $600 wiht a cart during a sale. It's a good bit higher than that now... but remember all their prices are TO YOUR DOOR, and you won't pay tax buying from an online place that's out of state.

[57sailplane]

has anyone used the cheap tig on harbor freight. i know you get what you pay for but the small jobs i need to do will not require i hi dollar welder. i want it of body panels and such. here are some specs its a chicago electric 130 amp, 30 percent duty cycle, 220 volt welder. anyway let me know if any of you have used it and what you think of it. i have read revues on the mig and they were all pretty good. thanks andrew

[95KYsahara]

Originally Posted by ECM

TIG welding puts the leat amount of heat into a material, making it warp panels the least. It's also the hardest to learn, and most expensive process to use. But man, can you crank out some pretty welds.

Ever seen anyone TIG two aluminum cans together? That's impressive.

An excellent place to get a good idea on what a welder is really worth is to shop around online. The local welding shops have pretty high prices all over the country.

I'd recommend www.cyberweld.com as a start. I bought my Miler 175 from them back two years ago for $600 wiht a cart during a sale. It's a good bit higher than that now... but remember all their prices are TO YOUR DOOR, and you won't pay tax buying from an online place that's out of state.

TIG is actually one of the hotter processes, but you have such great arc control that you can regulate the heat very well. Short Circuit MIG is the coldest process, and prefered for sheetmetal work.

[sleepyboy]

I have the chicago electric 220 volt welder. I had an issue with mine that the welder would automatically switch on and off (with power supplied) after I had about 100 hours on it, After each (4) trip to a welder repair shop in San Antonio, I would get it back, and after using it a few hours, it would do it again. Finally, it started doing it again, and I took it in, and it FINALLY did it to the technician. Has ran fine ever since (cross my fingers). Beware though, I have had to replace the gas welding shield (tip on end of gun); normal maintenance. When you go into any welding shop to find one, they will laugh you right out of the store. I finally took the original one, cut it down, and fit a Miller tip over it.

[jmmm229]

body man/ restorer for 15 years-- mig welder--miller--bottom line