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c3006 · 06-13-2014, 02:28 PM

My newley found 87 ton dually that has had the big block and auto tranny robbed from it are causing me some quandaries. The power steering pump bracket is left with the pump but I am sure it would be to good to be true for the same bracket to work on the small block I'm putting back in. Since it has the power brakes hooked to the power steering pump I'm wondering if any small block mount will work or will it be specific to that power steering pump. The model number on the title for this truck is R30R30 I was wondering if that was anything odd. Thx

GM72K10 · 06-14-2014, 04:14 PM

87 "C30s" are R30s. that is correct. I believe small block ps pump is different than the big block one.

c3006 · 06-14-2014, 07:51 PM

Show to be the same part number but who knows. Got it looking a little more like a truck today!

mrolds88 · 06-14-2014, 09:01 PM

IIRC the big block had a separate reservoir and the small block didn't. However I think some of the serpentine setups used a separate reservoir.

lilspike · 06-15-2014, 12:13 PM

Not sure about the brackets, however my CC came with a 454 and I believe they(po) used it on my 305 by spacing it away from the head mount. The pump itself is a saginaw type with resvour. The main difference being the extra return for the hydroboost and at that there are only two types of hydroboost. early and late I.e. flared fitting vs o-ring respectively.

lilspike · 06-15-2014, 12:17 PM

Totally digging those mirrors btw! Would love to have a set like that on my CC one day!

MalibuSSwagon · 06-15-2014, 02:00 PM

Might as well get new lines, pump and reservoir for a SB truck. Stuff is pretty cheap. Serpentine conversion is fairly easy as well, just grab everything out of the junkyard.

c3006 · 06-15-2014, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MalibuSSwagon

Might as well get new lines, pump and reservoir for a SB truck. Stuff is pretty cheap. Serpentine conversion is fairly easy as well, just grab everything out of the junkyard.

I thought the same thing but SB tons are a little hard to find and they have crushed most of the square body's around here,since all the stuff in my truck is really low miles I'm gonna try and do as spike suggested and modify the brackets I have to work. I am trying to find a good pic of a SB ton with that power steering pump mounted to it to give me some guidance. Thx for all the help so far!

79Betty · 06-18-2014, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lilspike

Totally digging those mirrors btw! Would love to have a set like that on my CC one day!

I will warn lots of c50-60-70 and 75 trucks had these mirrors factory. While the mirrors are no problem the doors themselves are not direct replacements. They have too large of a gap at the front a piller. Taken from experience.

lilspike · 06-22-2014, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 79Betty

I will warn lots of c50-60-70 and 75 trucks had these mirrors factory. While the mirrors are no problem the doors themselves are not direct replacements. They have too large of a gap at the front a piller. Taken from experience.

Good to know!!
Matthew

c3006 · 06-17-2014, 09:21 PM

Well I solved the power steering problem by buying a 83 suburban with a 454 and rebuilt tranny. It has the towing package so I'm moving the oil and tranny coolers over as well as the hitch. It also has the delux insterment panel so I guess that swaps to. Time to get to work.

mrolds88 · 06-17-2014, 10:34 PM

Double check, but I believe the hitch is different on the Burb. Nice score though!!!!

c3006 · 06-18-2014, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mrolds88

Double check, but I believe the hitch is different on the Burb. Nice score though!!!!

Me and my power tools say not different.

mrolds88 · 06-23-2014, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by c3006

Me and my power tools say not different.

That works!!!!!!

c3006 · 06-22-2014, 01:08 PM

The fire truck is coming along,about got the power ready to go in.

**truckfan** · 06-26-2014, 02:08 PM

cool looking truck. lurking

c3006 · 06-26-2014, 06:13 PM

Got the tranny ready to go in and hitch moved over from the burb.

c3006 · 06-29-2014, 12:28 PM

I have hit a snag on my motor installation,I could tell someone had been chasing a oil leak on the oil cooler system by all the gasket maker and thread tape that was everywhere,I found a crack on this sandwich adapter where the brass fittings screw in and was wondering if the oil cooler is even needed since I won't be doing any long hauling with this truck? I did find another one on eBay and got it headed this way so hopefully I'm covered.

06-13-2014, 02:28 PM	#1
c3006 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Greeneville Tn Posts: 64	Project Firetruck Help Needed My newley found 87 ton dually that has had the big block and auto tranny robbed from it are causing me some quandaries. The power steering pump bracket is left with the pump but I am sure it would be to good to be true for the same bracket to work on the small block I'm putting back in. Since it has the power brakes hooked to the power steering pump I'm wondering if any small block mount will work or will it be specific to that power steering pump. The model number on the title for this truck is R30R30 I was wondering if that was anything odd. Thx

06-14-2014, 04:14 PM	#2
GM72K10 Next! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Eastern Pa. Posts: 2,482	Re: Project Firetruck Help Needed 87 "C30s" are R30s. that is correct. I believe small block ps pump is different than the big block one. __________________ 86 K30 CUCV M1028A1 86 K30 CUCV M1028a2 dually 86 K30 C&C 6.2 4:56s, 4M, 11,000 gvw, ex fire truck, now lowboy dump More square bodies and CUCVs than I care to admit to 2020 Silverado K3500HD Work truck

06-14-2014, 07:51 PM	#3
c3006 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Greeneville Tn Posts: 64	Re: Project Firetruck Help Needed Show to be the same part number but who knows. Got it looking a little more like a truck today!

06-14-2014, 09:01 PM	#4
mrolds88 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: WV Posts: 946	Re: Project Firetruck Help Needed IIRC the big block had a separate reservoir and the small block didn't. However I think some of the serpentine setups used a separate reservoir. __________________ 72 GMC C2500 402/Th400 first truck (still have) 77 GMC C3500 CC dually Sold 70 C50 dump truck "Rusty" 87 K10 Suburban Sold 93 K2500 xcab 6.5TD 96 GMC K2500 Suburban 6.5 TD

06-15-2014, 12:13 PM	#5
lilspike Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Shady Valley, TN Posts: 25	Re: Project Firetruck Help Needed Not sure about the brackets, however my CC came with a 454 and I believe they(po) used it on my 305 by spacing it away from the head mount. The pump itself is a saginaw type with resvour. The main difference being the extra return for the hydroboost and at that there are only two types of hydroboost. early and late I.e. flared fitting vs o-ring respectively.

06-15-2014, 12:17 PM	#6
lilspike Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Shady Valley, TN Posts: 25	Re: Project Firetruck Help Needed Totally digging those mirrors btw! Would love to have a set like that on my CC one day!

06-15-2014, 02:00 PM	#7
MalibuSSwagon Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Weare,NH Posts: 1,592	Re: Project Firetruck Help Needed Might as well get new lines, pump and reservoir for a SB truck. Stuff is pretty cheap. Serpentine conversion is fairly easy as well, just grab everything out of the junkyard. __________________ Eric 1992 Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser 1986 Chevrolet C10\|5.3L\|TKO600\|Shortbed\|Custom Deluxe 1983 Malibu Wagon\|TPI 305\|T5 5 speed\|3.73 non-posi

06-17-2014, 09:21 PM	#11
c3006 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Greeneville Tn Posts: 64	Re: Project Firetruck Help Needed Well I solved the power steering problem by buying a 83 suburban with a 454 and rebuilt tranny. It has the towing package so I'm moving the oil and tranny coolers over as well as the hitch. It also has the delux insterment panel so I guess that swaps to. Time to get to work.

06-17-2014, 10:34 PM	#12
mrolds88 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: WV Posts: 946	Re: Project Firetruck Help Needed Double check, but I believe the hitch is different on the Burb. Nice score though!!!! __________________ 72 GMC C2500 402/Th400 first truck (still have) 77 GMC C3500 CC dually Sold 70 C50 dump truck "Rusty" 87 K10 Suburban Sold 93 K2500 xcab 6.5TD 96 GMC K2500 Suburban 6.5 TD

06-22-2014, 01:08 PM	#15
c3006 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Greeneville Tn Posts: 64	Re: Project Firetruck UPDATE The fire truck is coming along,about got the power ready to go in.

06-26-2014, 02:08 PM	#16
truckfan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lawrence KS Posts: 821	Re: Project Firetruck Help Needed cool looking truck. lurking __________________ 1981 Chevy C30 440 Holmes 42K one owner miles

06-26-2014, 06:13 PM	#17
c3006 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Greeneville Tn Posts: 64	Re: Project Firetruck Help Needed Got the tranny ready to go in and hitch moved over from the burb.

06-29-2014, 12:28 PM	#18
c3006 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Greeneville Tn Posts: 64	Re: Project Firetruck Help Needed I have hit a snag on my motor installation,I could tell someone had been chasing a oil leak on the oil cooler system by all the gasket maker and thread tape that was everywhere,I found a crack on this sandwich adapter where the brass fittings screw in and was wondering if the oil cooler is even needed since I won't be doing any long hauling with this truck? I did find another one on eBay and got it headed this way so hopefully I'm covered.



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