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Went to get quotes on paint & body today :(
Been out of the truck game for the last 5yrs (put my wife through nursing school). I wanted a fresh paint job (same color with the firewall, interior & inner fenders). I was thinking of the $5-6k range and was going to pull all the trim, glass, motor, interior etc.... I got quoted from $10-15k from all three shops :/ No major rust issues or anything.
Have prices increased that much (or is it just my local shops in Socal). Anyone know of a good shop in my area? Last edited by Raguemoe; 04-12-2016 at 01:43 AM. |
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Re: Went to get quotes on paint & body today :(
Wow. From what I can see: I would totally rock that just like it is.
Plus - with a fresh paint job you are worried about getting that first parking lot ding, rock chip, falling sofa on the freeway, etc. At any rate I was able to get my truck painted locally for about $3200. Original color but in base coat/clear coat. I did all the prep and they sprayed. K
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Re: Went to get quotes on paint & body today :(
That sure sounds mighty high to me. I guess when you say color change they triple the price. How about bringing it in even further prepped, like pull engine, interior, front clip, weatherstrip? Maybe they plan on blowing it apart and painting in pieces just like a restoration.
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Re: Went to get quotes on paint & body today :(
I can honestly say some shops bid high like that because they don't "know" because it is a classic and its cheap insurance for them A. they don't want to touch it because there's no money in it and so they bid high B. If they do get it they figure they can still make a profit off all the time it spent in the stall rather than other jobs there as the truck won't be their first priority
Depending on your mechanical experience, color choice and bravery this could very well be a job you can tackle for less than 4k like Keith said Nice truck as it is now though I can relate to wanting something fresh though
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Re: Went to get quotes on paint & body today :(
The price is high because instead of a respray, you're getting the entire truck redone inside and out, like mentioned above, you might as well have said "color change." The means they have to blow the entire truck apart.
Very nice truck. I would leave it as is as well ![]() For that kinda money, find another one that is already redone that someone else is losing their ass on ![]()
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Re: Went to get quotes on paint & body today :(
The quotes you got seem to be in line with what is involved with a full paint job. These trucks have a lot of surface area to prep and paint. (assuming you're spraying all the panels inside and out).
I know from my experience the painting materials are VERY expensive. $3-$5k can easily be spent on a high quality paint job. It can take up to a few hundred man hours to do one right, that's assuming the panels aren't rusted. At $50 and up an hour for labor you can see how they arrive at these quotes. Most shops don't really want to mess with these old trucks because there really isn't a lot of profit in it compared to collision work. I hope it all works out for you on your truck. Just remember, in the end you truly get what you pay for. |
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Re: Went to get quotes on paint & body today :(
Yikes! That's pretty steep. It might just be cheaper to learn how to do it yourself!
![]() I've been meaning to get some quotes for fixing a couple paint bubbles on the roof and lower fenders, but if it's going to cost me an arm and a leg...
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Well... Part of the high costs is where you live with all the extra EPA laws in Ca your going to pay more than anywhere else in the country ! Hit up some of the local car clubs to get a better deal and a shop you can trust to do it right and in a timely manner before your story gets posted next year as another paint jail fiasco ! Just wait until your minimum wage goes to $15.00 an hour out there a big Mac will be $10.00 ! As a general rule a shop owner has to bill 3x the employees hourly pay for the shop to break even on your labor . That's why many older body shop owners have gone to less employees and smaller shops to be able to survive in today's market . Commercial shop space for heavy restoration work has tripled in price over the last few years and if they have a good location on top of physical shop space the price keeps climbing just for rent !
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Re: Went to get quotes on paint & body today :(
Very nice truck the way it is. In my book, ( only 3 or 4 pages) 10K to 15K extra put into a very nice ride already equates to less drive time, ulcers worrying about the paint getting chipped, scratched, old geezers like me hitting it, and not seeing the difference of 15K sunk into it. now if it looked like mine, you might notice the work involved to equal that much money. As stated above, 15K will buy you another truck that atleast you can see where it went..
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Re: Went to get quotes on paint & body today :(
$10-$15K could do an LSX swap! Screw the paint
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Re: Went to get quotes on paint & body today :(
Grumpy Old Man hit the nail on the head. You live in a state with a lot of environmental regulation which translates to mean "high prices."
Paint isn't cheap....I looked into getting my car painted but it would have been about $5K or so at the collision shop. The head guy there suggested I go to a small outfit, could get it done for a lot less. It'll have to wait for now. Could you get it done in a neighboring state---one without a determination to be Venezuela? Last edited by kcsa75; 04-12-2016 at 11:26 AM. |
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Re: Went to get quotes on paint & body today :(
When my 2000 silverado was hit a few years ago, insurance was going to pay for about 1/3 of the truck to be repaired/resprayed. I inquired about just doing the whole truck since they had to do so much to fix the 1/3. It was $2,500 for the damage and they quoted another 3-4K for the other 2/3. My truck was arrow straight and rust free. I passed and paid them an extra $100 to bring the old paint back to life (it would have been more but I think their insurance quote was high so they worked with me on the detail price).
Maybe pay a few hundred bucks, or even a grand if you have scratches or lots of chips, etc and take it to a place that specializes in "paint restoration." Instead of the respray, on the PS of the truck they airbrushed some scratches, filled in a bunch of rock chips, and buffed the whole truck. The (at the time) 12 year old paint looked great when they were done.
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Re: Went to get quotes on paint & body today :(
Thats ridiculous
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Re: Went to get quotes on paint & body today :(
I guess the question is, Is this how much other members here have been paying for full paint jobs? What known prices are out there from other members? Prices will vary in different areas, but we can figure what the differences would be.
Joe has had some of the sweetest classic iron I've seen on this site. I don't know if he had any of it painted or it was already that nice, but I figure he has a pretty good idea what his local pricing for shops is. It sounds like he went to the wrong three shops.
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Re: Went to get quotes on paint & body today :(
Those are actually fair quotes. If the shops actually knuckle down and do all the prepping and sanding and sanding and prepping.... and the work's done timely then you should get a decent quality paint job at what's fair for the work involved. But if you want high quality work, and straight body, properly fitted panels attention to detail then the entry point is probably going to be significantly more... but you may not even be able to get a custom shop to touch your stuff. I would like to repaint my truck some day. I dread the work involved. My paint is brittle and needs to be stripped. If I don't do it... I know it not be cheap!
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Re: Went to get quotes on paint & body today :(
Yeah, I think I just had sticker shock. The last truck I had painted ran me about $5k (but took close to 2yrs). All the shops specialized in classic cars and were referrals from other people or known in the area to do good work.
The 67 is my keeper & was thinking to freshen her up for the next 20yrs. Guess I'll be rocking the 90's paint for awhile longer! Pic of my last $5k paint job |
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Re: Went to get quotes on paint & body today :(
Did you talk to this shop again, or was this in a different region or state?
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Re: Went to get quotes on paint & body today :(
a friend of mine who owns a body shop painted his suburban a couple of years ago. Just the paint supplies were over $700. This did not include labor, sandpaper, masking paper (they dont use newspaper anymore!!), bondo (his cost $60 gallon for better Quality filler), primer, or anything to cover his investment in tools,compressors, electricity or insurance. Bodywork and paint are not easy, or cheap, and you usually get what you pay for.
I guess I'll keep doing it myself (with his help when I have a problem, Thanks Tim), and on my lower quality trucks, I'll be going to the ecno-spray, so I'm not so worried about dings. He does restos on occassion, and says there is not a lot of profit in them. He puts them in the end bay and works on them when he does not have collision work. |
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Re: Went to get quotes on paint & body today :(
That's super cheap by today's standards. I paid over half that for a couple quarts of quality PPG epoxy primer this past winter
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Re: Went to get quotes on paint & body today :(
I know I'll get flamed on here but I use PPG's Omni for my supplies and the Omni plus for paint I have been using Omni for a little over 16 years now, So I've had a little experience with it. It can lower your paint bill between 10% and 90%
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Re: Went to get quotes on paint & body today :(
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I've never been in a PPG shop but I can attest to "Axalta" (DuPont) ChromaPremier having the same result
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Re: Went to get quotes on paint & body today :(
Safe to assume that includes body work? My body/paint guy is charging $9500 for labor, as a side job, though I told him pristine work gets him a bonus.
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Re: Went to get quotes on paint & body today :(
I got a truck in my shop right now the guy to date has paid me like $4200 on his bill and I figured it out that gives me a shop rate of 15.50 per shop hour. I figured the time but none of my sons time or my dads time. They both have quite a few hours invested in this job too. The job is a frame off with rockers floor and other pieces changed out. We were talking about how much time I have in and It is just a loser for me. There is no way I could charge the $45 dollars shop rate that the others here in town charge on this truck. But if I did that would put him in that $15K range for paint.
I guess that is another reason I can't get any of my trucks done. Jim |
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