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LooseScrews · 04-13-2007, 02:26 PM

I know I KNOW! Search for it. I did! Can't find the post anywhere that tells me where to get them. I know they are expensive, but it may be a necessary evil! Our original cab looks like #$@%!^ and we've got a small hump '67 cab to replace it. Gonna move the VIN plate to the "new" cab and need those rivets once the cab is "refreshed". HELP!!

3/4tonterror · 04-13-2007, 02:57 PM

i saw them listed under rosebuds once.

3/4tonterror · 04-13-2007, 03:03 PM

http://www.trimtags.com/rivets.html

LooseScrews · 04-13-2007, 03:10 PM

Those at trimtags.com doesn't look like the ones on the original cab VIN plates. And they are saying they are $12 for the pair. I read somewhere they were more like $30 a pair.

Anyone???

***Liz*** · 04-13-2007, 03:13 PM

the board member that use to sell rosebuds was banned for a long line of bad sales. good luck in your quest.

dave2953 · 04-13-2007, 03:22 PM

When I did a search for them, it came up that trimtags didn't sell them anymore. I guess they are hard to find because some use them for the wrong reasons. A couple of the posts in the search listed Ebay as a source, but you know how hit and miss it can be.

71 super · 04-13-2007, 03:35 PM

In order to get them from Trim Tags you must email them and ask specifically for the rosette rivets as used to hold vin tags on with. They are $48 and shipping.

krue · 04-13-2007, 03:47 PM

BTW you're not gonna get flamed for asking a question, not here anyways.

stllookn · 04-13-2007, 04:42 PM

When you read how "they" recommend to install them...with epoxy...it will become abundently clear that the cheapest way to obtain the proper rosebud rivets and install them is to take them off an existing vehicle and just reuse them.

GREASEMONKEY72 · 04-13-2007, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krue

BTW you're not gonna get flamed for asking a question, not here anyways.

just look at all the exhaust threads

jugernot · 04-13-2007, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LooseScrews

I know I KNOW! Search for it. I did! Can't find the post anywhere that tells me where to get them. I know they are expensive, but it may be a necessary evil! Our original cab looks like #$@%!^ and we've got a small hump '67 cab to replace it. Gonna move the VIN plate to the "new" cab and need those rivets once the cab is "refreshed". HELP!!

You might want to check with your State Department of Transportation or DMV, because I believe that switching VIN plates from one vehicle to another is ILLEGAL. Just a thought.

bobthecop · 04-13-2007, 04:52 PM

3/4tonterror · 04-13-2007, 05:14 PM

In some states it is illegal,unless good reason.For instance if you buy one of the NEW 67/69 CAMARO OR 32 FORD STEEL BODYS shells they do not come with VINS. The manufacturer recomends swaping VINS from a junk.A buddy of mine did it to a NEW 69 CAMARO he just bought. The DMV told him it was fine but they sent a trooper over the run the numbers before we did it.

scrapmetalart · 04-13-2007, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 3/4tonterror

In some states it is illegal,unless good reason.For instance if you buy one of the NEW 67/69 CAMARO OR 32 FORD STEEL BODYS shells they do not come with VINS. The manufacturer recomends swaping VINS from a junk.A buddy of mine did it to a NEW 69 CAMARO he just bought. The DMV told him it was fine but they sent a trooper over the run the numbers before we did it.

I have a hard time believing this is OK. Boyd coddington I believe had a problem for just that thing. New 32 Fords are special constructions not 1932 Fords. I know people swap titles all the time, but I can't believe the DMV is cool with it... May be different state to state

jamis · 04-14-2007, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by scrapmetalart

I have a hard time believing this is OK. Boyd coddington I believe had a problem for just that thing. New 32 Fords are special constructions not 1932 Fords. I know people swap titles all the time, but I can't believe the DMV is cool with it... May be different state to state

He got busted because he was doing it to avoid paying taxes. Never mess with a dog and his bone or the government and their money.

Call the DMV and they will send some one out to witness the VIN plate change. As long as both are clear vins you won’t have a problem. I did it with a 79 many moons ago.

But I would just swap it and be done with it. Unless your planning to do drive byes "THE MAN" wont hassle you over the vin plate on a 40 year old truck. The vin is on the frame anyway.

Anyway we can collect some bond money in case you go down. Just keep those cheaks tight and your back to the wall, we will be there soon.

Tx Firefighter · 04-13-2007, 06:31 PM

Illegal or not is not for me to say, but a generic hardware store aluminum rivet and a Dremel tool will do what you need. At least that's how someone I "know" has done it in the past.

stllookn · 04-13-2007, 06:34 PM

Tx F...YUP...I've only heard rumors...honest officer, I would never consider doing anything like that myself!

72armyswbtruck · 04-14-2007, 01:19 PM

Why don't people just cut the metal around the vin tag and then re-weld the whole plate with the rivets?????

byrd · 04-14-2007, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 72armyswbtruck

Why don't people just cut the metal around the vin tag and then re-weld the whole plate with the rivets?????

because that is about 3-8 hrs work depending on your skill level and it only takes about 2 minutes to drill the old rivets out and install the new ones.

Vin swapping on a stolen car/truck is bad, but we change them to save the vehical, totally diff IMO. My truck will have matching frame and cab with the plate on the cab have been remove from the rusted beyond repair cab, to my other now rust free cab. Why is that considered illegal if they match?

centsless · 04-14-2007, 06:31 PM

It is OK here in MD to switch the vin plate on a cab. If the truck were wrecked and the cab had to be replaced, would you have to re-title the truck? No. Same difference if you are replacing the cab for rust, or whatever. The law in MD is that the Vin must match the majority of the parts. When I repaired my cab, we removed the VIN plate to do all of the bodywork, I just used regular pop rivets to attach it. I would not worry about the rosebud rivets unless you are doing a 100 point resto. That's just my opinion, I could be wrong....

RACINJASON22 · 04-14-2007, 06:41 PM

I pretty sure you can do it here in Pa, but you will more than likely end up with a R title reconstructed/salvage title. Not important if you are keeping the truck but, it lowers resale value IMO. My suggestion is Contact the DMV and let them know it's a rebuild/restoration problem and they will let you know waht to do. I don't think you will have a problem. For possible resale value documment the whole build pic's and written to show future owner. Good luck RJ22

LooseScrews · 04-16-2007, 08:23 AM

I believe in the state of Alabama they didn't start "titleing" vehicles until the early 70's. I did talk to a good friend who is an attorney for the state. He said he'd get the process started. My nephew-in-law is a cop and he's gonna sign an affidavit about the VIN plate switch. And I wouldn't have asked about the rivets unless I checked first.

RustyParts · 04-16-2007, 09:17 AM

Hemmings has them listed. 35 bucks a pair.
http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...ed/415489.html

lbpd719 · 04-16-2007, 09:22 PM

In California, this is definitely a don't do it situation.

Felony, as a matter of fact..

You can have the DMV generate a new vin for you if your doing that much of a reconstruction. If the truck ever made it to CA and was caught on it, they would likely fine, give you some jail time, and make you put a dmv vin on it, AND get a salvage title..

BurnoutNova · 04-16-2007, 09:26 PM

ive seen people just cut around the whole vin plate, and just weld the entire piece from another truck to the new cab... i know its alot more work, but it might turn out better.

i used to work in a bodyshop and when we replaced whole pillars or for some reason had to remove a vin plate, we just threw it in the glovebox when we were done with it... not ssure why but thats just what we did.

04-13-2007, 02:26 PM	#1
LooseScrews Transplanted Dixie chick!! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Central Alabama Posts: 330	rosette rivets I know I KNOW! Search for it. I did! Can't find the post anywhere that tells me where to get them. I know they are expensive, but it may be a necessary evil! Our original cab looks like #$@%!^ and we've got a small hump '67 cab to replace it. Gonna move the VIN plate to the "new" cab and need those rivets once the cab is "refreshed". HELP!! __________________ To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid!!

04-13-2007, 02:57 PM	#2
3/4tonterror Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: jaffrey,NH Posts: 325	Re: rosette rivets i saw them listed under rosebuds once.

04-13-2007, 03:03 PM	#3
3/4tonterror Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: jaffrey,NH Posts: 325	Re: rosette rivets http://www.trimtags.com/rivets.html

04-13-2007, 03:10 PM	#4
LooseScrews Transplanted Dixie chick!! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Central Alabama Posts: 330	Re: rosette rivets Those at trimtags.com doesn't look like the ones on the original cab VIN plates. And they are saying they are $12 for the pair. I read somewhere they were more like $30 a pair. Anyone??? __________________ To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid!!

04-13-2007, 03:13 PM	#5
*Liz* Catchy title goes here.. Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Rockwell, NC Posts: 39,762	Re: rosette rivets the board member that use to sell rosebuds was banned for a long line of bad sales. good luck in your quest.

04-13-2007, 03:22 PM	#6
dave2953 Dave's not here, man Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Winder, Georgia Posts: 2,000	Re: rosette rivets When I did a search for them, it came up that trimtags didn't sell them anymore. I guess they are hard to find because some use them for the wrong reasons. A couple of the posts in the search listed Ebay as a source, but you know how hit and miss it can be. __________________ - 2014 VW Jetta - 2015 VW Jetta - 1966 Ford F-250

04-13-2007, 03:35 PM	#7
71 super Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canton North carolina Posts: 3,081	Re: rosette rivets In order to get them from Trim Tags you must email them and ask specifically for the rosette rivets as used to hold vin tags on with. They are $48 and shipping.

04-13-2007, 03:47 PM	#8
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,450	Re: rosette rivets BTW you're not gonna get flamed for asking a question, not here anyways. __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck"

04-13-2007, 04:42 PM	#9
stllookn Saving 1 truck at a time! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kent, WA Posts: 6,465	Re: rosette rivets When you read how "they" recommend to install them...with epoxy...it will become abundently clear that the cheapest way to obtain the proper rosebud rivets and install them is to take them off an existing vehicle and just reuse them. __________________ '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 400/TH400 '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 468/TH400w/buckets '72 C20 Halfhorn (Longhorn w/o cab and front clip) '69 Flxible Cruiser (look up ugly in the dictionary)

04-13-2007, 04:52 PM	#12
bobthecop Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Yukon Oklahoma Posts: 2,647	Re: rosette rivets __________________ Happiness is towing your "new" truck home. 1972 C-10 1982 GMC (parts truck??) 1969 c10 parts truck 1969 C-10 ( my sons) 1992 Silverado 4X4 (now the boys truck)(now mine again) 2002 Tarus (my wife loves that car)

04-13-2007, 05:14 PM	#13
3/4tonterror Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: jaffrey,NH Posts: 325	Re: rosette rivets In some states it is illegal,unless good reason.For instance if you buy one of the NEW 67/69 CAMARO OR 32 FORD STEEL BODYS shells they do not come with VINS. The manufacturer recomends swaping VINS from a junk.A buddy of mine did it to a NEW 69 CAMARO he just bought. The DMV told him it was fine but they sent a trooper over the run the numbers before we did it.

04-13-2007, 06:31 PM	#16
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	Re: rosette rivets Illegal or not is not for me to say, but a generic hardware store aluminum rivet and a Dremel tool will do what you need. At least that's how someone I "know" has done it in the past. __________________ I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin

04-13-2007, 06:34 PM	#17
stllookn Saving 1 truck at a time! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kent, WA Posts: 6,465	Re: rosette rivets Tx F...YUP...I've only heard rumors...honest officer, I would never consider doing anything like that myself! __________________ '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 400/TH400 '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 468/TH400w/buckets '72 C20 Halfhorn (Longhorn w/o cab and front clip) '69 Flxible Cruiser (look up ugly in the dictionary) Last edited by stllookn; 04-13-2007 at 06:35 PM.

04-14-2007, 01:19 PM	#18
72armyswbtruck Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Idaho Posts: 4,034	Re: rosette rivets Why don't people just cut the metal around the vin tag and then re-weld the whole plate with the rivets????? __________________ "Remember, They can Kill You, but they can't eat You, That's against the law!!!!!!!!!"

04-14-2007, 06:31 PM	#20
centsless sufficiently talented fool Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Forest Hill, MD Posts: 2,231	Re: rosette rivets It is OK here in MD to switch the vin plate on a cab. If the truck were wrecked and the cab had to be replaced, would you have to re-title the truck? No. Same difference if you are replacing the cab for rust, or whatever. The law in MD is that the Vin must match the majority of the parts. When I repaired my cab, we removed the VIN plate to do all of the bodywork, I just used regular pop rivets to attach it. I would not worry about the rosebud rivets unless you are doing a 100 point resto. That's just my opinion, I could be wrong.... __________________ "it's impossible to be surrounded by idiots when you are part of the circle" 2003 Suburban 2002 Pontiac Montana 1981 Corvette 1966 Impala Convertible Click here to support the board



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04-14-2007, 06:41 PM	#21
RACINJASON22 GEARHEAD Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: CENTRAL,PA Posts: 2,284	Re: rosette rivets I pretty sure you can do it here in Pa, but you will more than likely end up with a R title reconstructed/salvage title. Not important if you are keeping the truck but, it lowers resale value IMO. My suggestion is Contact the DMV and let them know it's a rebuild/restoration problem and they will let you know waht to do. I don't think you will have a problem. For possible resale value documment the whole build pic's and written to show future owner. Good luck RJ22 __________________ 72 SWB 2WD MY PROJECT 72 LWB 4X4 FUTURE PROJECT SUBSCRIBE HEREBOARD VENDORS HERE NORWOOD MEET SURVIVOR!

04-16-2007, 08:23 AM	#22
LooseScrews Transplanted Dixie chick!! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Central Alabama Posts: 330	Re: rosette rivets I believe in the state of Alabama they didn't start "titleing" vehicles until the early 70's. I did talk to a good friend who is an attorney for the state. He said he'd get the process started. My nephew-in-law is a cop and he's gonna sign an affidavit about the VIN plate switch. And I wouldn't have asked about the rivets unless I checked first. __________________ To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid!!

04-16-2007, 09:17 AM	#23
RustyParts Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Wyman, Kentucky Posts: 403	Re: rosette rivets Hemmings has them listed. 35 bucks a pair. http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...ed/415489.html __________________ 1972 GMC Jimmy, 4WD, 454 CI, 350 Turbo, 4" lift, 35" tires The math teacher said my son "Bubba" could be a mathmatical genius. cause he's got 13 fingers! Last edited by RustyParts; 04-16-2007 at 09:17 AM.

04-16-2007, 09:22 PM	#24
lbpd719 Zappaphile! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Los Banos, California Posts: 228	Re: rosette rivets In California, this is definitely a don't do it situation. Felony, as a matter of fact.. You can have the DMV generate a new vin for you if your doing that much of a reconstruction. If the truck ever made it to CA and was caught on it, they would likely fine, give you some jail time, and make you put a dmv vin on it, AND get a salvage title.. __________________ 1969 C20 LWB Camper Special - The Beater.. 1998 Cheyenne V6 - 4/6 Drop - For The Son

04-16-2007, 09:26 PM	#25
BurnoutNova Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: CA Posts: 2,057	Re: rosette rivets ive seen people just cut around the whole vin plate, and just weld the entire piece from another truck to the new cab... i know its alot more work, but it might turn out better. i used to work in a bodyshop and when we replaced whole pillars or for some reason had to remove a vin plate, we just threw it in the glovebox when we were done with it... not ssure why but thats just what we did.

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