Another rare option?

[shaneschevys]

http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/pts/827212912.html

I thought 68 was the last year for the 327.

[MrBeast]

I do believe the song "Ocean front property" by George Strait is appropriate.

[LOW DOUGH]

but he said it.

"All above is true fact!"

[LONGHAIR]

AFAIK, they replaced the 327 with the 307 in mid '69.....in cars. I really don't know about trucks though........Andy? where are you?

[lowriden58]

i dont get it.. first he says a 327 block was only bored to 307? then he says he bored it to 311.. am i missing something here? is it or isnt it a 327

[BLACK AND BLUE 67-72]

So if it's a 327 block but only got bored to 307 then to 311, Then how pray tell is it a 327??? OHHHHHH I know!!!! It's the ultra ultra rare Corvette optioned 327!!!!! Oh yeah if it's bored to a 311 then how the He!!! can it be bored to a 307 again???? Last time I checked 311 was still bigger than 307!!!

[tcb-1]

you may be able to de-stroke a 327 to get a 307, but boring a 327 to get a 307 is a bit suspect.

I'm with Longhair, Andy can you set us straight?!

Originally Posted by lowriden58

i dont get it.. first he says a 327 block was only bored to 307? then he says he bored it to 311.. am i missing something here? is it or isnt it a 327

[67_C-30]

Oh brother!

First of all the 307 debuted in 1968. There were no 327's built after 1969. The stroke is the same on the 307 and 327 (3.25"). The bore is 3.875" on the 307 (same as a 283) and the bore 327 is 4.000. They are a totally different block. You would have to bore it .125" over to make it a 327, which we all know is not possible. Incidentally large journal 302, 327 and 350 blocks are the same, and many of them had the same casting number. For example, a 3970010 block could have been either from the factory as long as it is a 1969 block. The code on front tells what it came in.


BTW, the 307 replaced the 283 as the standard small block V8 engine in 1968 and 350 replaced the 327 as the optional small block V8 in 1969.

[msgross]

All the above is true fact!


better than the alternative, false fact!

[70GMCer]

Just a little trivia, but the 350 came out in the 1968 model year Camaro as an option and the 1st ones were dated Sept. 1967. I know this as I had one that I put in my 62 Impala. I had to even recheck the dates & engine code as I always thought 1969 was the 1st year for the 350. I don't believe they made that many in that year. But it's in the books. Check it out...

[LONGHAIR]

Yeah, '68 for the 350, which would be "model year 1968", so yeah late '67 would be possible.

As for the "what replaced what" debate....

283s were never in Camaros...so 307 couldn't have replaced them.
In '68 there were 327s and 350s at the same time
In '69 the 327 was replaced by the 307 and 350s were still available

So, the 350 was around for both of the lesser sized engines.....

[BLACK AND BLUE 67-72]

But still how do you bore a 311 and turn it into a better than new 307!!!!???????

[Longhorn Man]

for pickups, the 283 and 327 was in 67, the 307 and 327 in 68, and then the 307 and 350 in 69. (396 offered in the two latter years)

[72highlander]

the 350 actually debuted in the camaro in '67, the SS 350. i had one. here is a motor trend link:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...350/index.html

[chipflyer]

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[LONGHAIR]

Originally Posted by 72highlander

the 350 actually debuted in the camaro in '67, the SS 350. i had one. here is a motor trend link:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...350/index.html

That's right....L48 350/295HP

[pritch]

When I was in high school I had a '68 Nova with a 327 and 3 on the floor. As far as I knew it was the original motor. That Nova was a army green 4 door, not much of a chick magnet, but it would sure run!

[BLACK AND BLUE 67-72]

But, but, but, how can you bore a 311 and turn it back into a 307??? Does anyone Know????? He said it's true!!!!

[prairewolf]

Originally Posted by BLACK AND BLUE 67-72

But, but, but, how can you bore a 311 and turn it back into a 307??? Does anyone Know????? He said it's true!!!!

he did it metrical.

A metric 311 is basicly a standard 307, ... like 14 mm is basicly a 9/16ths.

[70GMCer]

Originally Posted by 72highlander

the 350 actually debuted in the camaro in '67, the SS 350. i had one. here is a motor trend link:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...350/index.html

That's right. I went and looked up my old paper work for that engine. In my reply here, I meant to say Sep 1966 instead in Sep 1967. And did go into the 67 Camaros. Oh well..... A mind is a terrible thing to waste....

[MrBeast]

Originally Posted by 70GMCer

That's right. I went and looked up my old paper work for that engine. In my reply here, I meant to say Sep 1966 instead in Sep 1967. And did go into the 67 Camaros. Oh well..... A mind is a terrible thing to waste....

I thought it was a mind is a terrible thing to taste?

[71 super]

Actually you can bore a 307 to 327 the walls will take it, spent many days riding around in a 67 firbird that had the original 326 replaced with a .125 over 307, never had over heating problems etc. and ran like a top.

[jdodd68]

When did the 409 come into play.

[LONGHAIR]

Originally Posted by jdodd68

When did the 409 come into play.

409s came as an optional engine in the 1961 Impala SS, as a late in the year addition. They (409s) were made until early in 1965. The "new" Big-Block 396, replaced them in 1966. So, really only about 3 years or so? The smaller 348 was introduced a few years earlier, 1957 I think.

[Longhorn Man]

the 307 was still there in 72. Personally, I never cared for the square body, so I know little to nothing about them... to include knowing if the 307 came in it or not.
The 409 was long gone before the 67 truck ever hit the show room floor.