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teeitup · 12-20-2010, 07:17 PM

OK, I have a very original truck and was going to take it to get inspected in morning BUT I tried to find vin numbers by ps box on top rail of frame and I can't find any. I have 2 other trucks here and can find them on their frames. Its a 72 chevy truck, where are the other set of vin number on frame, I was thinking there was another set on top rail under cab but what side? Any help is appreciated. Thanks Randy

teeitup · 12-20-2010, 07:18 PM

Sorry for bad pics but this is top rail by ps box

redbaron69 · 12-20-2010, 07:25 PM

Randy the numbers are on the drivers side rail betwwen the front and back cab mount. may be impossible to see with the cab mounted to the frame.

BLAZERMAN · 12-20-2010, 07:29 PM

Ive never had an instance when they weren't there! does your DMV actually check frame numbers?

teeitup · 12-20-2010, 07:36 PM

Well here in Kansas the highway patrol have checked the frame every time I had one inspected. They are now doing it at county sherriff's department and I know most of them over there so hopefully I can get it through BUT this is the Eagle truck and I would like to be able to say everything matches if I ever resale it. I've only had 2 other trucks in all my years not have one on frame one was a 67 gmc and the other was a 72 swb 4x4. I may have to try to get a mirror and see if I can find them under cab. Thanks Randy

KrazyRay · 12-20-2010, 07:52 PM

I usually see the vin by the steering box and the pass side under the cab. Many GMC trucks have no frame vin at all.

sameyrasmea72 · 12-20-2010, 08:11 PM

I have seen only one or two trucks that did not have the # on the rail by the PS. This is a 72 frame if it helps. You can barely see the #'s in the one pic.

ebfabman · 12-20-2010, 07:24 PM

all the vin's I've ever seen have been on the drivers side, like you said by the ps on the top of the frame rail and on the frame rail under the cab.

ebfabman · 12-20-2010, 07:27 PM

Randy I have had several trucks inspected here in NC and the inspectors never looked anywhere except on the vin tag. Do your inspectors know to look at places other than the vin tag on these trucks?

**truckdude239** · 12-20-2010, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ebfabman

Randy I have had several trucks inspected here in NC and the inspectors never looked anywhere except on the vin tag. Do your inspectors know to look at places other than the vin tag on these trucks?

ebfabman is right here in nc all we check is the vin tag(on the body) but in nc any vehicle 35 years or older is exempt from inspections ( am an inspector in nc)

rusty baker · 12-20-2010, 10:46 PM

In Missouri, you can buy a lifetime license plate for anythig older than 25 years. No inspection. Supposed to be historic with restrictions and supposed to carry a log. Had one for 15 years and never been checked. A local judge ruled that the restrictions weren't legal.

teeitup · 12-20-2010, 11:53 PM

Every state is different. I've had a bunch inspected in Kansas. Once they are titled in Kansas, you don't have trouble dealing with Kansas, just pay tags and taxes every year. Unless you want a antique tag, pay for it once.

CORSAIR · 12-20-2010, 11:59 PM

Could any one of you nice Gentleman tell me were the number is on the frame of a 72 K-5?? I cleaned and painted the frame more than a year ago and I can't remember seeing a number???

brn agn · 12-21-2010, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by truckdude239

ebfabman is right here in nc all we check is the vin tag(on the body) but in nc any vehicle 35 years or older is exempt from inspections ( am an inspector in nc)

True, however North Carolina DMV requires any vehicle 35 years or older that is purchased from out of state be inspected by a member of the Highway Patrol-License and Theft Bureau. I had to do this with my truck because I purchased it from Virginia. The DMV will not issue the title until this is completed. The Inspector who checked my truck got the VIN off the cab, and the frame and took pictures of both as well as pictures of the outside of the truck. He then ran the VIN to confirm it was not stolen.

As a side note, there is a lot of dispute over this "rule", because it is something the DMV implemented on their own with no legislation a couple of years ago. There was a bill proposed last summer to remove the rule, but I do not believe it passed.

Longhorn Man · 12-20-2010, 08:51 PM

my 72 burb is missing the numbers on the frame.

rusty baker · 12-20-2010, 08:59 PM

What kind of inspection is this? Kansas doesn't have a safety inspection. Is this some kind of rebuild/road worthy inspection?

chipflyer · 12-20-2010, 09:05 PM

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What kind of inspection is this? Kansas doesn't have a safety inspection. Is this some kind of rebuild/road worthy inspection?

Any out of state vehicle that you try to register in KS has to be inspected and they are very picky.

Jeff

teeitup · 12-20-2010, 09:07 PM

Kansas does have a inspection for out of state cars and trucks when you want to title them in Kansas. They check vin plate, title, frame, spid label and build sheet if you have it. Vin, title and frame have to match.

teeitup · 12-20-2010, 09:08 PM

Thanks guys for all your help, I GOT LUCKY I found the one under the cab, very hard to read but it matches

chipflyer · 12-20-2010, 09:13 PM

Good deal Randy, did you get a radiator and get her running? Make friends with the guys at the sheriffs office, I know of an old car from Nebraska that I might have to sell you cheap...

**special-K** · 12-20-2010, 09:15 PM

Heck,"I've" never even checked any of my trucks for the numbers on the frame.I wouldn't know if any of the many trucks I've owned had the number or not.I know they were never checked and I thought Maryland was tough.They seem to care less on older stuff than late model.Good luck with it.It appears that some never got stamped.I know if they've been ground off (theft) the numbers will show up if you heat it with a torch.
It's amazing how different states are with this stuff.I just transferred a title to on a truck I have to Maryland from California at the DMV.The truck isn't even present.They just wanted a bill of sale and a signed title.Now I have a Maryland title and when I go to tag it it will be looked upon as an "in state" truck.

chipflyer · 12-20-2010, 09:18 PM

Kansas is tough, they consider anything from out of state stolen until the inspection proves it isn't.

Jeff

**Dieselwrencher** · 12-20-2010, 09:50 PM

My frame on my 72 Longhorn didn't have one stamped in it either.

**DANTIP** · 12-20-2010, 10:00 PM

The picture Jason has above was very helpful and was exactly where my number was. By the way the frame number was an abbreviated VIN. Rather than the full VIN (CCE142B######) it only has the last 8 characters (2B######).

teeitup · 12-21-2010, 07:25 PM

Rain, it hasn't rained here for a long time

Guys got it inspected, no problem at all, the deputy that did it was a old drinking buddy of mine, but it was still all legal

12-20-2010, 07:17 PM	#1
teeitup Just like to part out trucks!! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Meriden, Ks-North of Topeka 10 miles Posts: 27,396	No frame vin numbers question OK, I have a very original truck and was going to take it to get inspected in morning BUT I tried to find vin numbers by ps box on top rail of frame and I can't find any. I have 2 other trucks here and can find them on their frames. Its a 72 chevy truck, where are the other set of vin number on frame, I was thinking there was another set on top rail under cab but what side? Any help is appreciated. Thanks Randy Attached Images __________________ 67 Chev swb stepside 4x4 283 4 speed SOLD 72 blazer 4x4 4 speed Cheyenne 72 GMC swb 4x4 fleet 4 speed, original paint 1958 Cameo (one of 1405 built, it was my dads) 2020 chevy Apex 4x4 crew cab 1969 Z28 with the 302 1980 chevy swb 4x4 1964 chevell Malibu SS 1976 K20, sold new originally out of my dads chevy dealership Members that I've met, over 200 probably closer to 300 in the 12 years I've been on this site, everyone I met "It was a pleasure" Last edited by teeitup; 12-20-2010 at 08:07 PM.

12-20-2010, 07:18 PM	#2
teeitup Just like to part out trucks!! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Meriden, Ks-North of Topeka 10 miles Posts: 27,396	Re: No frame vin numbers question Sorry for bad pics but this is top rail by ps box __________________ 67 Chev swb stepside 4x4 283 4 speed SOLD 72 blazer 4x4 4 speed Cheyenne 72 GMC swb 4x4 fleet 4 speed, original paint 1958 Cameo (one of 1405 built, it was my dads) 2020 chevy Apex 4x4 crew cab 1969 Z28 with the 302 1980 chevy swb 4x4 1964 chevell Malibu SS 1976 K20, sold new originally out of my dads chevy dealership Members that I've met, over 200 probably closer to 300 in the 12 years I've been on this site, everyone I met "It was a pleasure"

12-20-2010, 07:25 PM	#3
redbaron69 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: marion nc Posts: 588	Re: No frame vin numbers question Randy the numbers are on the drivers side rail betwwen the front and back cab mount. may be impossible to see with the cab mounted to the frame. __________________ 69 short fleet 350/350 "under construction" 70 short step 307/3 speed

12-20-2010, 07:29 PM	#4
BLAZERMAN Currently Blazerless Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: St. Joseph Mo. Posts: 4,828	Re: No frame vin numbers question Ive never had an instance when they weren't there! does your DMV actually check frame numbers? __________________ 1972 C/30 133" W.B. C&C 1970 GMC 3500 157" W.B. single wheel C&C

12-20-2010, 07:36 PM	#5
teeitup Just like to part out trucks!! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Meriden, Ks-North of Topeka 10 miles Posts: 27,396	Re: No frame vin numbers question Well here in Kansas the highway patrol have checked the frame every time I had one inspected. They are now doing it at county sherriff's department and I know most of them over there so hopefully I can get it through BUT this is the Eagle truck and I would like to be able to say everything matches if I ever resale it. I've only had 2 other trucks in all my years not have one on frame one was a 67 gmc and the other was a 72 swb 4x4. I may have to try to get a mirror and see if I can find them under cab. Thanks Randy __________________ 67 Chev swb stepside 4x4 283 4 speed SOLD 72 blazer 4x4 4 speed Cheyenne 72 GMC swb 4x4 fleet 4 speed, original paint 1958 Cameo (one of 1405 built, it was my dads) 2020 chevy Apex 4x4 crew cab 1969 Z28 with the 302 1980 chevy swb 4x4 1964 chevell Malibu SS 1976 K20, sold new originally out of my dads chevy dealership Members that I've met, over 200 probably closer to 300 in the 12 years I've been on this site, everyone I met "It was a pleasure" Last edited by teeitup; 12-20-2010 at 07:36 PM.

12-20-2010, 07:52 PM	#6
KrazyRay Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Oroville, CA Posts: 4,827	Re: No frame vin numbers question I usually see the vin by the steering box and the pass side under the cab. Many GMC trucks have no frame vin at all.

12-20-2010, 08:11 PM	#7
sameyrasmea72 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Lubbock, Texas Posts: 2,443	Re: No frame vin numbers question I have seen only one or two trucks that did not have the # on the rail by the PS. This is a 72 frame if it helps. You can barely see the #'s in the one pic. Attached Images __________________ 72 Cheyenne Super 80 Silverado Blazer 2wd

12-20-2010, 07:24 PM	#8
ebfabman Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Concord, NC Posts: 2,489	Re: No frame vin numbers question all the vin's I've ever seen have been on the drivers side, like you said by the ps on the top of the frame rail and on the frame rail under the cab.

12-20-2010, 07:27 PM	#9
ebfabman Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Concord, NC Posts: 2,489	Re: No frame vin numbers question Randy I have had several trucks inspected here in NC and the inspectors never looked anywhere except on the vin tag. Do your inspectors know to look at places other than the vin tag on these trucks? Last edited by ebfabman; 12-20-2010 at 07:28 PM.

12-20-2010, 10:46 PM	#11
rusty baker '70 C-10 Primer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: nevada,missouri Posts: 117	Re: No frame vin numbers question In Missouri, you can buy a lifetime license plate for anythig older than 25 years. No inspection. Supposed to be historic with restrictions and supposed to carry a log. Had one for 15 years and never been checked. A local judge ruled that the restrictions weren't legal. __________________ "The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." Albert Einstein

12-20-2010, 11:53 PM	#12
teeitup Just like to part out trucks!! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Meriden, Ks-North of Topeka 10 miles Posts: 27,396	Re: No frame vin numbers question Every state is different. I've had a bunch inspected in Kansas. Once they are titled in Kansas, you don't have trouble dealing with Kansas, just pay tags and taxes every year. Unless you want a antique tag, pay for it once. __________________ 67 Chev swb stepside 4x4 283 4 speed SOLD 72 blazer 4x4 4 speed Cheyenne 72 GMC swb 4x4 fleet 4 speed, original paint 1958 Cameo (one of 1405 built, it was my dads) 2020 chevy Apex 4x4 crew cab 1969 Z28 with the 302 1980 chevy swb 4x4 1964 chevell Malibu SS 1976 K20, sold new originally out of my dads chevy dealership Members that I've met, over 200 probably closer to 300 in the 12 years I've been on this site, everyone I met "It was a pleasure"

12-20-2010, 11:59 PM	#13
CORSAIR Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pahrump, Nevada Posts: 451	Re: No frame vin numbers question Could any one of you nice Gentleman tell me were the number is on the frame of a 72 K-5?? I cleaned and painted the frame more than a year ago and I can't remember seeing a number??? __________________ "The Can't Family Lives Across The Street"

12-20-2010, 08:51 PM	#15
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: No frame vin numbers question my 72 burb is missing the numbers on the frame.

12-20-2010, 08:59 PM	#16
rusty baker '70 C-10 Primer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: nevada,missouri Posts: 117	Re: No frame vin numbers question What kind of inspection is this? Kansas doesn't have a safety inspection. Is this some kind of rebuild/road worthy inspection? __________________ "The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." Albert Einstein

12-20-2010, 09:07 PM	#18
teeitup Just like to part out trucks!! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Meriden, Ks-North of Topeka 10 miles Posts: 27,396	Re: No frame vin numbers question Kansas does have a inspection for out of state cars and trucks when you want to title them in Kansas. They check vin plate, title, frame, spid label and build sheet if you have it. Vin, title and frame have to match. __________________ 67 Chev swb stepside 4x4 283 4 speed SOLD 72 blazer 4x4 4 speed Cheyenne 72 GMC swb 4x4 fleet 4 speed, original paint 1958 Cameo (one of 1405 built, it was my dads) 2020 chevy Apex 4x4 crew cab 1969 Z28 with the 302 1980 chevy swb 4x4 1964 chevell Malibu SS 1976 K20, sold new originally out of my dads chevy dealership Members that I've met, over 200 probably closer to 300 in the 12 years I've been on this site, everyone I met "It was a pleasure"



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12-20-2010, 09:08 PM	#19
teeitup Just like to part out trucks!! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Meriden, Ks-North of Topeka 10 miles Posts: 27,396	Re: No frame vin numbers question Thanks guys for all your help, I GOT LUCKY I found the one under the cab, very hard to read but it matches __________________ 67 Chev swb stepside 4x4 283 4 speed SOLD 72 blazer 4x4 4 speed Cheyenne 72 GMC swb 4x4 fleet 4 speed, original paint 1958 Cameo (one of 1405 built, it was my dads) 2020 chevy Apex 4x4 crew cab 1969 Z28 with the 302 1980 chevy swb 4x4 1964 chevell Malibu SS 1976 K20, sold new originally out of my dads chevy dealership Members that I've met, over 200 probably closer to 300 in the 12 years I've been on this site, everyone I met "It was a pleasure"

12-20-2010, 09:13 PM	#20
chipflyer Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Topeka, Ks Posts: 2,293	Re: No frame vin numbers question Good deal Randy, did you get a radiator and get her running? Make friends with the guys at the sheriffs office, I know of an old car from Nebraska that I might have to sell you cheap... __________________ I'm not a pessimist, I'm just optimistic that bad things are going to happen. 1971 Cheyenne Super K10 - tilt, cruise, air, am/fm, tow hooks, factory buckets! 1986 Jeep J10 pickup, - 5.3L Vortec with 4L60e and NP241.

12-20-2010, 09:15 PM	#21
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,852	Re: No frame vin numbers question Heck,"I've" never even checked any of my trucks for the numbers on the frame.I wouldn't know if any of the many trucks I've owned had the number or not.I know they were never checked and I thought Maryland was tough.They seem to care less on older stuff than late model.Good luck with it.It appears that some never got stamped.I know if they've been ground off (theft) the numbers will show up if you heat it with a torch. It's amazing how different states are with this stuff.I just transferred a title to on a truck I have to Maryland from California at the DMV.The truck isn't even present.They just wanted a bill of sale and a signed title.Now I have a Maryland title and when I go to tag it it will be looked upon as an "in state" truck. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~ Last edited by special-K; 12-20-2010 at 09:22 PM.

12-20-2010, 09:18 PM	#22
chipflyer Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Topeka, Ks Posts: 2,293	Re: No frame vin numbers question Kansas is tough, they consider anything from out of state stolen until the inspection proves it isn't. Jeff __________________ I'm not a pessimist, I'm just optimistic that bad things are going to happen. 1971 Cheyenne Super K10 - tilt, cruise, air, am/fm, tow hooks, factory buckets! 1986 Jeep J10 pickup, - 5.3L Vortec with 4L60e and NP241.

12-20-2010, 09:50 PM	#23
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,139	Re: No frame vin numbers question My frame on my 72 Longhorn didn't have one stamped in it either. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

12-20-2010, 10:00 PM	#24
DANTIP Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana, USA Posts: 1,889	Re: No frame vin numbers question The picture Jason has above was very helpful and was exactly where my number was. By the way the frame number was an abbreviated VIN. Rather than the full VIN (CCE142B######) it only has the last 8 characters (2B######).

12-21-2010, 07:25 PM	#25
teeitup Just like to part out trucks!! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Meriden, Ks-North of Topeka 10 miles Posts: 27,396	Re: No frame vin numbers question Rain, it hasn't rained here for a long time Guys got it inspected, no problem at all, the deputy that did it was a old drinking buddy of mine, but it was still all legal __________________ 67 Chev swb stepside 4x4 283 4 speed SOLD 72 blazer 4x4 4 speed Cheyenne 72 GMC swb 4x4 fleet 4 speed, original paint 1958 Cameo (one of 1405 built, it was my dads) 2020 chevy Apex 4x4 crew cab 1969 Z28 with the 302 1980 chevy swb 4x4 1964 chevell Malibu SS 1976 K20, sold new originally out of my dads chevy dealership Members that I've met, over 200 probably closer to 300 in the 12 years I've been on this site, everyone I met "It was a pleasure"

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