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chevyc1068 · 10-30-2006, 06:28 PM

What are some of your guys header opinions. What company do you like the best, meaning fits well, flows well, most horsepower gain if any. And what should I look for in a header? 16 guage steel 18 guage, 3in collector or 2 1/2 or does any of that make to much of a difference.

st1x10 · 10-30-2006, 06:42 PM

I will subscribe to this, I would like to know as well.

jooooooe · 10-30-2006, 06:49 PM

every set I've ever had, you always need to trim a little material off the inside frame rail on the passenger side. On a mild to moderate small block you will make more power across the range with 2.5 collectors, your gonna' end up with 2.5, or less, forward pipe so you might as well avoid bottle necking the flow by drastically stepping it down from 3" collectors. Small blocks with less than 350 HP need a certain amount of back-pressure to retain low end torque, so don't go crazy with large pipes.

st1x10 · 10-30-2006, 07:01 PM

What brand have you used joe?

jooooooe · 10-30-2006, 07:51 PM

hooker, dynomax, hedman, cyclone, I always prefer to trim the frame instead of dinging in the tube.

jooooooe · 10-30-2006, 08:02 PM

I noticed you own an S-10, had one 'bout a year ago with a 350, see pictures

st1x10 · 10-30-2006, 08:10 PM

Sweet truck here is a pic of mine.

It is my daily driver.

chevyc1068 · 10-30-2006, 08:23 PM

Ok what about the guage of the steel. Does it make any difference on the heat or longevity of the header? So where any of those that you mentioned joe any better than any of the other ones?

st1x10 · 10-30-2006, 08:30 PM

The thicker the better. The thicker it is the less chance it will flex.

chevyc1068 · 10-30-2006, 08:37 PM

What does it mean when it is advertised as " only for off-road use". Does that mean it is too loud or what?

LUV2XCLR8 · 10-30-2006, 08:45 PM

I luv mine, lots of pic's in the "GQ" siggy link, NO FRAME mods, and
NO PIPE dinging, they also have the newer style BALL collectors, I
have Hedman "ELITE" Ceramic Coated, they were $275 to my door,
the flanges were so thick I had to TOSS my ARP bolts & use theirs.

st1x10 · 10-30-2006, 08:50 PM

What size collectors on those and where did you get them?

LUV2XCLR8 · 10-30-2006, 09:00 PM

Summit

Jeg's

They are not pictured on the Jeg's website, and the Summit pic is WRONG,
I have never installed anything easier in my life and am extremely happy

*If you look at my pic's in my siggy u will see that they are 3/4 length

st1x10 · 10-31-2006, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LUV2XCLR8

Summit

Jeg's

They are not pictured on the Jeg's website, and the Summit pic is WRONG,
I have never installed anything easier in my life and am extremely happy

*If you look at my pic's in my siggy u will see that they are 3/4 length

I looked at those and like them, but they are for 4wd it looks like. Went to Summit and found this. I am thinking it is the same, but should I call Hedman just incase?

71chevylowrider · 10-31-2006, 07:14 PM

I think they disperse heat better, but in the huge engine bay that we have in these trucks, I never had a heat problem, I just like the way they look & they don't change color/rust like the painted ones do.

jooooooe · 10-30-2006, 10:21 PM

there ya' have it.

LUV2XCLR8 · 10-31-2006, 04:44 AM

I'm going to order a pair for my Jimmy soon as I have time to call Hedman
again in Cali and confirm the right part number, I called Summit 7 times in
the past before I ordered the other set, then called Hedman, then called
to Jeg's and ordered them, 7 calls to Summit, 7 different part numbers

see ten · 10-31-2006, 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LUV2XCLR8

I'm going to order a pair for my Jimmy soon as I have time to call Hedman
again in Cali and confirm the right part number, I called Summit 7 times in
the past before I ordered the other set, then called Hedman, then called
to Jeg's and ordered them, 7 calls to Summit, 7 different part numbers

Hmmm. 71see10 is having the same problem with getting different part #s from different places. He's wanting Hedmans for his 2wd truck as well. Anyone got the right #s out there?

junkyardjohn · 10-31-2006, 07:12 AM

I BUY EITHER HOOKER COMP.S OR SUPER COMP.S OR DOUG THORLY TRI-Ys. NEVER HAD A FITMENT ISSUE WHERE I HAD TO TRIM OR DENT ANYTHING. I DO HAVE A SET OF HEDDMAN HEADERS ON MY 82 FWD THAT THE P.O. PUT ON, & THEY'VE WORKED GREAT BUT WHEN IT COMES TIME TO REPLACE THEM IT;LL BE EITHER HOOKER OR THORLYS.

JOHN

jooooooe · 10-31-2006, 07:20 AM

make sure you take notice while tightening your headers, they don't touch the frame until they've been tightened and you have to look real hard to see it.

Mudder · 10-31-2006, 01:27 PM

I have had several different sets of Hookers and never had any kind of fitment problems. Granted my frame is newer but the fit seems to be about the same as was on my daughters 72 Blazer. Her's was close.

76bonanza · 10-31-2006, 02:04 PM

Anyone running the elites on a 2 wheel drive c-10? Can you confirm the part number is 69890?

Thanks any pics in c-10 would be nice?

71chevylowrider · 10-31-2006, 04:54 PM

I have Ceramic coated Hooker Headers & love em, no leaks, great scavenging the cylinders & great sound.

junkyardjohn · 10-31-2006, 05:08 PM

ANOTHER THING I RECOMEND IS USING COPPER GASKETS & "STAGE 8" HEADER LOCKING BOLTS. I HATE DEALING WITH HEADERS. I LIKE TO SEAL EM UP & NOT TOUCH EM AGAIN FOR YEARS OR UNTIL I CHANGE MOTORS AT LEAST.

JOHN

69CvyPickup4x · 10-31-2006, 05:20 PM

I think they say for offroad use only because of smog or sound or something of that nature.. you want a nice thick gauge flange and also the thickest gauge for the tube also for reasons of rust and durability, they will last longer. I have thorley tri-y's and had to grind the frame back a little but they only touched the frame a tiny bit other than that, I have no complaints.

10-30-2006, 06:28 PM	#1
chevyc1068 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Murdock, Kansas Posts: 147	Header Opinions What are some of your guys header opinions. What company do you like the best, meaning fits well, flows well, most horsepower gain if any. And what should I look for in a header? 16 guage steel 18 guage, 3in collector or 2 1/2 or does any of that make to much of a difference.

10-30-2006, 06:42 PM	#2
st1x10 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 588	Re: Header Opinions I will subscribe to this, I would like to know as well. __________________ 1970 Chevy C10 "Under Construction" 2002 Chevy S10 V6

10-30-2006, 06:49 PM	#3
jooooooe Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Foley, Alabama Posts: 85	Re: Header Opinions every set I've ever had, you always need to trim a little material off the inside frame rail on the passenger side. On a mild to moderate small block you will make more power across the range with 2.5 collectors, your gonna' end up with 2.5, or less, forward pipe so you might as well avoid bottle necking the flow by drastically stepping it down from 3" collectors. Small blocks with less than 350 HP need a certain amount of back-pressure to retain low end torque, so don't go crazy with large pipes. __________________ wouldn't it be great if we where all like Forrest Gump.?

10-30-2006, 07:01 PM	#4
st1x10 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 588	Re: Header Opinions What brand have you used joe? __________________ 1970 Chevy C10 "Under Construction" 2002 Chevy S10 V6

10-30-2006, 07:51 PM	#5
jooooooe Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Foley, Alabama Posts: 85	Re: Header Opinions hooker, dynomax, hedman, cyclone, I always prefer to trim the frame instead of dinging in the tube. __________________ wouldn't it be great if we where all like Forrest Gump.?

10-30-2006, 08:02 PM	#6
jooooooe Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Foley, Alabama Posts: 85	Re: Header Opinions I noticed you own an S-10, had one 'bout a year ago with a 350, see pictures Attached Images __________________ wouldn't it be great if we where all like Forrest Gump.?

10-30-2006, 08:10 PM	#7
st1x10 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 588	Re: Header Opinions Sweet truck here is a pic of mine. It is my daily driver. __________________ 1970 Chevy C10 "Under Construction" 2002 Chevy S10 V6

10-30-2006, 08:23 PM	#8
chevyc1068 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Murdock, Kansas Posts: 147	Re: Header Opinions Ok what about the guage of the steel. Does it make any difference on the heat or longevity of the header? So where any of those that you mentioned joe any better than any of the other ones? __________________ 1968 C-10 longbed, 307 V8, 4spd- currently under construction

10-30-2006, 08:30 PM	#9
st1x10 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 588	Re: Header Opinions The thicker the better. The thicker it is the less chance it will flex. __________________ 1970 Chevy C10 "Under Construction" 2002 Chevy S10 V6

10-30-2006, 08:37 PM	#10
chevyc1068 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Murdock, Kansas Posts: 147	Re: Header Opinions What does it mean when it is advertised as " only for off-road use". Does that mean it is too loud or what? __________________ 1968 C-10 longbed, 307 V8, 4spd- currently under construction

10-30-2006, 08:45 PM	#11
LUV2XCLR8 The LuvShack Garage Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Maple Grove, TN (West Side) Posts: 30,484	Re: Header Opinions I luv mine, lots of pic's in the "GQ" siggy link, NO FRAME mods, and NO PIPE dinging, they also have the newer style BALL collectors, I have Hedman "ELITE" Ceramic Coated, they were $275 to my door, the flanges were so thick I had to TOSS my ARP bolts & use theirs. __________________ Owner/Op: "TN Classic Transport Carriers" The Toy: "Square Vette" 72 Hybrid Blazer Toy Barn: "LuvShack" 40 x 60 x 20 Shop Tow Piggy:"Maddy" 88 Silverado 3500 Hauler: "Feathers" 14 Aluma 8218T

10-30-2006, 08:50 PM	#12
st1x10 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 588	Re: Header Opinions What size collectors on those and where did you get them? __________________ 1970 Chevy C10 "Under Construction" 2002 Chevy S10 V6

10-30-2006, 09:00 PM	#13
LUV2XCLR8 The LuvShack Garage Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Maple Grove, TN (West Side) Posts: 30,484	Re: Header Opinions Summit Jeg's They are not pictured on the Jeg's website, and the Summit pic is WRONG, I have never installed anything easier in my life and am extremely happy If you look at my pic's in my siggy u will see that they are 3/4 length __________________ Owner/Op: "TN Classic Transport Carriers" The Toy: "Square Vette" 72 Hybrid Blazer Toy Barn: "LuvShack" 40 x 60 x 20 Shop Tow Piggy:"Maddy" 88 Silverado 3500 Hauler: "Feathers" 14 Aluma 8218T Last edited by LUV2XCLR8; 10-30-2006 at 09:03 PM.*

10-31-2006, 07:14 PM	#15
71chevylowrider Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 1,015	Re: Header Opinions I think they disperse heat better, but in the huge engine bay that we have in these trucks, I never had a heat problem, I just like the way they look & they don't change color/rust like the painted ones do.

10-30-2006, 10:21 PM	#16
jooooooe Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Foley, Alabama Posts: 85	Re: Header Opinions there ya' have it. __________________ wouldn't it be great if we where all like Forrest Gump.?



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10-31-2006, 04:44 AM	#17
LUV2XCLR8 The LuvShack Garage Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Maple Grove, TN (West Side) Posts: 30,484	Re: Header Opinions I'm going to order a pair for my Jimmy soon as I have time to call Hedman again in Cali and confirm the right part number, I called Summit 7 times in the past before I ordered the other set, then called Hedman, then called to Jeg's and ordered them, 7 calls to Summit, 7 different part numbers __________________ Owner/Op: "TN Classic Transport Carriers" The Toy: "Square Vette" 72 Hybrid Blazer Toy Barn: "LuvShack" 40 x 60 x 20 Shop Tow Piggy:"Maddy" 88 Silverado 3500 Hauler: "Feathers" 14 Aluma 8218T

10-31-2006, 07:12 AM	#19
junkyardjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SOMERSET KY. Posts: 6,427	Re: Header Opinions I BUY EITHER HOOKER COMP.S OR SUPER COMP.S OR DOUG THORLY TRI-Ys. NEVER HAD A FITMENT ISSUE WHERE I HAD TO TRIM OR DENT ANYTHING. I DO HAVE A SET OF HEDDMAN HEADERS ON MY 82 FWD THAT THE P.O. PUT ON, & THEY'VE WORKED GREAT BUT WHEN IT COMES TIME TO REPLACE THEM IT;LL BE EITHER HOOKER OR THORLYS. JOHN __________________ junkyardjohn 69 1 TON TOW TRUCK // 84 4WD CUCV BLAZER// 85 1 TON 4WD STAKE TRUCK// 86 M1031 5/4 TON 4WD CUCV// ALOT OF OLD TRUCKS FOR ONE OLD MAN TO DRIVE. THERES ROOM FOR ALL OF GODS CREATURES RIGHT NEXT TO MY MASHED POTATOES// LIFE MEMBER OF P.E.T.A (PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS) DON'T RENT U-HAUL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH IT WILL AMAZE PART OF THE PEOPLE & ASTONISH THE REST

10-31-2006, 07:20 AM	#20
jooooooe Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Foley, Alabama Posts: 85	Re: Header Opinions make sure you take notice while tightening your headers, they don't touch the frame until they've been tightened and you have to look real hard to see it. __________________ wouldn't it be great if we where all like Forrest Gump.?

10-31-2006, 01:27 PM	#21
Mudder Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: East Central, MO Posts: 11,336	Re: Header Opinions I have had several different sets of Hookers and never had any kind of fitment problems. Granted my frame is newer but the fit seems to be about the same as was on my daughters 72 Blazer. Her's was close. Last edited by Mudder; 10-31-2006 at 01:28 PM.

10-31-2006, 02:04 PM	#22
76bonanza Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: St robert Mo Posts: 2,001	Re: Header Opinions Anyone running the elites on a 2 wheel drive c-10? Can you confirm the part number is 69890? Thanks any pics in c-10 would be nice? __________________ 1968 c10 lowered 3" 4" 355/Th400 built by Hatfield racing in joplin MO

10-31-2006, 04:54 PM	#23
71chevylowrider Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 1,015	Re: Header Opinions I have Ceramic coated Hooker Headers & love em, no leaks, great scavenging the cylinders & great sound. Attached Images

10-31-2006, 05:08 PM	#24
junkyardjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SOMERSET KY. Posts: 6,427	Re: Header Opinions ANOTHER THING I RECOMEND IS USING COPPER GASKETS & "STAGE 8" HEADER LOCKING BOLTS. I HATE DEALING WITH HEADERS. I LIKE TO SEAL EM UP & NOT TOUCH EM AGAIN FOR YEARS OR UNTIL I CHANGE MOTORS AT LEAST. JOHN __________________ junkyardjohn 69 1 TON TOW TRUCK // 84 4WD CUCV BLAZER// 85 1 TON 4WD STAKE TRUCK// 86 M1031 5/4 TON 4WD CUCV// ALOT OF OLD TRUCKS FOR ONE OLD MAN TO DRIVE. THERES ROOM FOR ALL OF GODS CREATURES RIGHT NEXT TO MY MASHED POTATOES// LIFE MEMBER OF P.E.T.A (PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS) DON'T RENT U-HAUL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH IT WILL AMAZE PART OF THE PEOPLE & ASTONISH THE REST

10-31-2006, 05:20 PM	#25
69CvyPickup4x Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bellflower Posts: 79	Re: Header Opinions I think they say for offroad use only because of smog or sound or something of that nature.. you want a nice thick gauge flange and also the thickest gauge for the tube also for reasons of rust and durability, they will last longer. I have thorley tri-y's and had to grind the frame back a little but they only touched the frame a tiny bit other than that, I have no complaints.

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