Goodmark quality issues - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

bamafrost · 04-12-2010, 06:57 PM

I bought two Goodmark complete doors and two front fenders for my '68. The fenders are fine...but the doors are laughable...my metal guy says he'll have to pie cut the passenger side...and massage the entire window surround for the drivers side. I paid $284 per door...opting for the "better Qulaity"

I wonder just how bad the lesser quality ones are. Anybody have any similar problems? I thought these guys sold good stuff.

I totally trust my fabricator...he's honest and very talented so I'm pretty sure that's not the problem.

Has anybody else had to do "custom" doors?

Thanks. Tom

bigsnookmaster · 04-12-2010, 07:01 PM

I did, same kind of situation. Also. the goodmark was about 15lbs. or so lighter. If I ever do it again, GM sheetmetal is the way I'm going.

**Classic Heartbeat** · 04-12-2010, 07:34 PM

I have been complaining about the doors for 6 or 7 years now. Triplus has better doors but they have their own issues too. Like the gap for the roll up windows. I guess given the choice, triplus has less issues so that is what I would go with. WES

72freak · 04-12-2010, 07:44 PM

Most aftermarket are a bad fit that I have seen! U just cant beat OE, original or NOS!

67ChevyRedneck · 04-12-2010, 07:55 PM

Scrap them and have a set of OEM doors fixed. Seriously. My truck has goodmark (tri-plus) doors. I am NOT happy with them at all. I WILL be putting the factory doors back on the truck some day. I shut the PS door too hard and I bent the (insert really bad words here) handle into the damn door. You want to talk about pissed off. Toss em, sell em, whatever, just put OEM doors back on or you'll never be happy.

I AM happy with my Tri-Plus front fenders. A little tweaking was all that was needed and "thick" metal.

PHAT TONY · 04-12-2010, 08:11 PM

You should be able to return the doors, then my advice is to re-skin some decent door shells; that's what I just did for my Blazer. The skins are still thinner than original, but...
If you have to use the badmark doors, as I have in the past, I was able to drill the welds on the window frame-reposition-re-weld and the fit was, umm, better.
Good luck.

pokerflatoutcast · 04-12-2010, 08:28 PM

wow i'm glad i read these. i was saving for a bedside. Think i'll fix my original metal now!

bigsnookmaster · 04-13-2010, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by pokerflatoutcast

wow i'm glad i read these. i was saving for a bedside. Think i'll fix my original metal now!

If you're looking for stepside bed sides, Mar-K is what I used and they were exact replicas of GM. They were excellent, But you have to put reinforcement where the taillights and reverse lights mount.

smoked68 · 04-12-2010, 08:53 PM

I had the exact same issues and had the same thing done by the body guy. To both doors, also the gap to the window. Still dont know how to fix this. Dukes of Hazzard style maybe???

**special-K** · 04-13-2010, 01:27 PM

There aren`t any issues with the bed sheet metal.It`s best going all new,though.The problems with the doors vary,too,as mentioned.The Tri-Plus are tolerable.That`s what most vendors carry,just ask.Goodmark doesn`t use Tri-Plus any more.

Rat Bastid · 04-13-2010, 02:13 PM

wow got my doors from counterpart automotive i better see whos crap they are pushin....my drivers door wont fit indside the frame,is hitting the driip rail at the curve in the window frame

C20-67_N_MO · 04-13-2010, 02:40 PM

I had my doors reskinned.

And after reading all the horror stories here good thing I apted to go that route instead of a new door with sub quality sheet metal!!

Rat Bastid · 04-13-2010, 02:52 PM

oh i still have my originals and will gladly send the doors back from wince they came......

**Classic Heartbeat** · 04-13-2010, 03:04 PM

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oh i still have my originals and will gladly send the doors back from wince they came......

If you purchased them from "Car and Truck Shop" then you will probably have to send them back truck freight on your nickle... WES

bamafrost · 11-17-2011, 10:02 AM

The Goodmark hood was a joke too. They make truly crappy parts. Wish I had known before dropping all my money into them. What a joke. Badmark is a better name for them. Two grand in parts and another $1000 to make the remotely usable. Go original and re-skin or you'll be sorry.

72freak · 11-17-2011, 11:15 AM

I dont think there are ANY aftermarket doors really worth using and there are plenty of past posts on this site to proove it!

chopnchaneled · 11-18-2011, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bamafrost

The Goodmark hood was a joke too. They make truly crappy parts. Wish I had known before dropping all my money into them. What a joke. Badmark is a better name for them. Two grand in parts and another $1000 to make the remotely usable. Go original and re-skin or you'll be sorry.

Boy you nailed it !!!!!!
I was ordering some stuff from LKQ and my regular salesman told me he could get me a real deal on a hood for my 68, so i said ok send me one, it turned out to be goodmark thur keystone, after a day of screwing with it i called and told him to come and pick it up and give me my money back, well not only was the hood junk, can't get them to pick it up.
Heading over to pick up a oem one saturday.

**D.PASSMORE** · 11-17-2011, 01:29 PM

It was suggested to me that the issue with aftermarket doors is the window frame (curve) not fitting properly in the cab door frame. Which causes massive fitment problems. So a shade tree theroy would be to remove the AM window frame and install a OE window frame. First, ensure the bottom fitment (good sheetmetal) and then set/tach the OE window frame next. Maybe some one could try this... I haven't had to venture down this road- yet.

no moa · 11-17-2011, 01:41 PM

Subscribed. Like to see if someone does this with the upper window frame.
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**rob32472** · 11-17-2011, 02:09 PM

According to Tim Christian the issues with doors have been fixed..... I hope he will post some pics....

**Tim Christian** · 11-17-2011, 02:58 PM

Now Rob, You did not listen to what I said they are four different door tools on the market. We actually have two in our warehouse one labeled Tri-Plus which they are issues with and the other one we carry which is labeled Key Parts which is a new tooling that look better and fit great. They are none of the others that has been fixed that I am aware of. Thanks Tim

**rob32472** · 11-17-2011, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Christian

Now Rob, You did not listen to what I said they are four different door tools on the market. We actually have two in our warehouse one labeled Tri-Plus which they are issues with and the other one we carry which is labeled Key Parts which is a new tooling that look better and fit great. They are none of the others that has been fixed that I am aware of. Thanks Tim

Yes perhaps I should have been more clear... it was said in an earlier post all aftermarket doors were junk..... I did not know who had the good doors, but since you have said it is key parts we all know! Thanks for the info

jtp67-72 · 11-17-2011, 10:47 PM

I have stated this in another thread but will repeat here so if you are able to lay your eyes on the repop U can spot the problem early BEFORE U BUY---Look at the middle of the window channel curve--On the factory door the channel is narrower in the arch of the curve --the doors are same all the way around--thus rubbing the drip in the arch--very noticeable if U know where to look....(driver's side is always worse)...............jim

no moa · 11-17-2011, 03:04 PM

Key parts, good to know.
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screamin_c10 · 11-17-2011, 04:57 PM

Its way too easy to find useable OEM doors even up here in the GNW....

I used all OEM parts on Screamin, tried an aftermarket fender and it would not even bolt up..... lesson learned.

The PO of 'Boo our 67 Chevelle used aftermarket patch panels on the quarters, and they fit like a$$, gonna be alot of massaging to get them to look right.... Again, lesson learned

04-12-2010, 06:57 PM	#1
bamafrost Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Florence, Alabama Posts: 157	Goodmark quality issues I bought two Goodmark complete doors and two front fenders for my '68. The fenders are fine...but the doors are laughable...my metal guy says he'll have to pie cut the passenger side...and massage the entire window surround for the drivers side. I paid $284 per door...opting for the "better Qulaity" I wonder just how bad the lesser quality ones are. Anybody have any similar problems? I thought these guys sold good stuff. I totally trust my fabricator...he's honest and very talented so I'm pretty sure that's not the problem. Has anybody else had to do "custom" doors? Thanks. Tom __________________ Bamafrost "Wars fought, uprisings quelled, Coup d'Etats planned...right after my nap". '68 Rambler American 2 door post Built 340/727/8.75 w 3.73 posi '68 C10 shortie soon to have a 2.5/4 drop and new Americans: 16" x 8" chrome IROC's Last edited by bamafrost; 04-12-2010 at 06:57 PM. Reason: typo on price

04-12-2010, 07:01 PM	#2
bigsnookmaster Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: St.Petersburg,Fl Posts: 1,267	Re: Goodmark quality issues I did, same kind of situation. Also. the goodmark was about 15lbs. or so lighter. If I ever do it again, GM sheetmetal is the way I'm going. __________________ greg http://community.webshots.com/user/68406Stepside

04-12-2010, 07:34 PM	#3
Classic Heartbeat Project Junkie! Fishing Poor!! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Olympia,Wa. 98512 Posts: 10,766	Re: Goodmark quality issues I have been complaining about the doors for 6 or 7 years now. Triplus has better doors but they have their own issues too. Like the gap for the roll up windows. I guess given the choice, triplus has less issues so that is what I would go with. WES __________________ On-line catolog Classic Heartbeat Pickup Parts WEHEPP@comcast.net Call us Toll Free (888) 338-2502 Like Us on Facebook No appointment necessary. 72 BB Chevy Custom Deluxe / Custom Camper 67 I-6 (Soon to be 5.7 LS1) Panel 68 BB Chevy Short Bed 72 6.0 LQ9 Short Bed Chevy 4X4 Olympia's fastest growing truck parts supplier. Olympia's home for Wayward Chevys

04-12-2010, 07:44 PM	#4
72freak Rottenwood Garage Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Marietta, Georgia Posts: 4,321	Re: Goodmark quality issues Most aftermarket are a bad fit that I have seen! U just cant beat OE, original or NOS! __________________ 2004 Chevrolet Suburban C1500 2001 Chevrolet 2500HD Crew 6.0 1999 Harley Davidson Electra Glide 1972 Chevrolet C-20 Custom Camper "Dump Truck" 1972 Chevrolet C-20 Suburban "Big Green" 1969 Chevrolet C-50 Wedge Hauler "Leonidis" 1966 C-10 2x4 short fleet 327 4 speed "Race Truck" 1952 Plymouth Cranbrook "Rican" (my grandfathers) 1931 Ford Model A Coupe "Black Beauty" 1930 Ford Model A truck "Club Cab" 4x4 Rottenwood Garage and Speed Shop.....where everything must be racy! *It's not just a hobby..It's a LIFESTYLE!!!* Thanks for nothing Barrett-Jackson You cant fix stupid or teach accountability! Time wasters, looky Lous and tire kickers are everywhere!

04-12-2010, 07:55 PM	#5
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Re: Goodmark quality issues Scrap them and have a set of OEM doors fixed. Seriously. My truck has goodmark (tri-plus) doors. I am NOT happy with them at all. I WILL be putting the factory doors back on the truck some day. I shut the PS door too hard and I bent the (insert really bad words here) handle into the damn door. You want to talk about pissed off. Toss em, sell em, whatever, just put OEM doors back on or you'll never be happy. I AM happy with my Tri-Plus front fenders. A little tweaking was all that was needed and "thick" metal. __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications! Last edited by 67ChevyRedneck; 04-12-2010 at 09:22 PM.

04-12-2010, 08:11 PM	#6
PHAT TONY Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Red Deer ab canada Posts: 1,250	Re: Goodmark quality issues You should be able to return the doors, then my advice is to re-skin some decent door shells; that's what I just did for my Blazer. The skins are still thinner than original, but... If you have to use the badmark doors, as I have in the past, I was able to drill the welds on the window frame-reposition-re-weld and the fit was, umm, better. Good luck. __________________ 1972 factory 2 Wheel Drive Blazer-Sold 1972 K10 4X4-Sold 1971 Chevrolet Cheyenne/10-Sold 1970 Chevrolet C/10-Sold 1968 GMC 4X4-Project 1968 Chevrolet C/10 Pro Street 1970 GMC 3/4 Ton-Parts 1997 2WD 2DR Yukon-Sweet http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=335664

04-12-2010, 08:28 PM	#7
pokerflatoutcast Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: graeagle,ca Posts: 22	Re: Goodmark quality issues wow i'm glad i read these. i was saving for a bedside. Think i'll fix my original metal now!

04-12-2010, 08:53 PM	#9
smoked68 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 421	Re: Goodmark quality issues I had the exact same issues and had the same thing done by the body guy. To both doors, also the gap to the window. Still dont know how to fix this. Dukes of Hazzard style maybe??? __________________ 1968 chevy shortbed, Dark Shadow Gray 4 bolt 383 Stroker,Weiand Super Charger, disc brakes, 9 inch, 391 gear, 20" Eagle wheels, muncie 4 speed/ Hurst shifter, 4/7 drop, Hedman midlengths, 3 inch exhaust w/ 2 chamber flows. 1966 Mustang with 306 roller, c-4, 9 inch Detroit locker rear. 1965 Fastback Mustang w/347 stroker, top loader 4spd, 9 inch detroit locker. 1966 Mustang coup, 306 roller, c4, 9 inch. 65 Cobra, 427, T6oo, 9inch, of course. First gen Hayabusa, airbox mod and running 2 exhaust cams.. Zoom Zoom Zoom

04-13-2010, 01:27 PM	#10
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,852	Re: Goodmark quality issues There aren`t any issues with the bed sheet metal.It`s best going all new,though.The problems with the doors vary,too,as mentioned.The Tri-Plus are tolerable.That`s what most vendors carry,just ask.Goodmark doesn`t use Tri-Plus any more. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

04-13-2010, 02:13 PM	#11
Rat Bastid Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: sumner wa. Posts: 158	Re: Goodmark quality issues wow got my doors from counterpart automotive i better see whos crap they are pushin....my drivers door wont fit indside the frame,is hitting the driip rail at the curve in the window frame

04-13-2010, 02:40 PM	#12
C20-67_N_MO Champagne Taste on Beer Budget Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: High Ridge, Missouri Posts: 2,190	Re: Goodmark quality issues I had my doors reskinned. And after reading all the horror stories here good thing I apted to go that route instead of a new door with sub quality sheet metal!! __________________ Coming Soon: Project 1970 Country Truck

04-13-2010, 02:52 PM	#13
Rat Bastid Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: sumner wa. Posts: 158	Re: Goodmark quality issues oh i still have my originals and will gladly send the doors back from wince they came......

11-17-2011, 10:02 AM	#15
bamafrost Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Florence, Alabama Posts: 157	Re: Goodmark quality issues The Goodmark hood was a joke too. They make truly crappy parts. Wish I had known before dropping all my money into them. What a joke. Badmark is a better name for them. Two grand in parts and another $1000 to make the remotely usable. Go original and re-skin or you'll be sorry. __________________ Bamafrost "Wars fought, uprisings quelled, Coup d'Etats planned...right after my nap". '68 Rambler American 2 door post Built 340/727/8.75 w 3.73 posi '68 C10 shortie soon to have a 2.5/4 drop and new Americans: 16" x 8" chrome IROC's

11-17-2011, 11:15 AM	#16
72freak Rottenwood Garage Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Marietta, Georgia Posts: 4,321	Re: Goodmark quality issues I dont think there are ANY aftermarket doors really worth using and there are plenty of past posts on this site to proove it! __________________ 2004 Chevrolet Suburban C1500 2001 Chevrolet 2500HD Crew 6.0 1999 Harley Davidson Electra Glide 1972 Chevrolet C-20 Custom Camper "Dump Truck" 1972 Chevrolet C-20 Suburban "Big Green" 1969 Chevrolet C-50 Wedge Hauler "Leonidis" 1966 C-10 2x4 short fleet 327 4 speed "Race Truck" 1952 Plymouth Cranbrook "Rican" (my grandfathers) 1931 Ford Model A Coupe "Black Beauty" 1930 Ford Model A truck "Club Cab" 4x4 Rottenwood Garage and Speed Shop.....where everything must be racy! *It's not just a hobby..It's a LIFESTYLE!!!* Thanks for nothing Barrett-Jackson You cant fix stupid or teach accountability! Time wasters, looky Lous and tire kickers are everywhere!

11-17-2011, 01:29 PM	#18
D.PASSMORE One of the First Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: St. Augustine,FL. Posts: 4,054	Re: Goodmark quality issues It was suggested to me that the issue with aftermarket doors is the window frame (curve) not fitting properly in the cab door frame. Which causes massive fitment problems. So a shade tree theroy would be to remove the AM window frame and install a OE window frame. First, ensure the bottom fitment (good sheetmetal) and then set/tach the OE window frame next. Maybe some one could try this... I haven't had to venture down this road- yet. __________________ DAVID PASSMORE ST AUGUSTINE ,FL ZIP 32084 '71 SWB K/10 CUSTOM DELUXE (Chili) '72 BLAZER K/5 Muscle Truck (Mule) '72 LWB K/20 CHEYENNE (Blackie)



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11-17-2011, 01:41 PM	#19
no moa Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: maine Posts: 2,315	Re: Goodmark quality issues Subscribed. Like to see if someone does this with the upper window frame. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 1972 C10 Deluxe.Shortbed. 402/400. A/C, white interior, needs complete restore. Project Red, white and blue. Used to be a Longbed apperently. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=451950 1971 c10 step 250 3 OTT 1969 c30 TOW-MATER. 307 4 speed, holmes 440 body. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=451082 2006 CTS-V LS2 6spd.

11-17-2011, 02:09 PM	#20
rob32472 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: dallas ga Posts: 1,505	Re: Goodmark quality issues According to Tim Christian the issues with doors have been fixed..... I hope he will post some pics....

11-17-2011, 02:58 PM	#21
Tim Christian Senior Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: TN/VA Posts: 6,388	Re: Goodmark quality issues Now Rob, You did not listen to what I said they are four different door tools on the market. We actually have two in our warehouse one labeled Tri-Plus which they are issues with and the other one we carry which is labeled Key Parts which is a new tooling that look better and fit great. They are none of the others that has been fixed that I am aware of. Thanks Tim

11-17-2011, 10:47 PM	#23
jtp67-72 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: dequincy la. Posts: 1,465	Re: Goodmark quality issues I have stated this in another thread but will repeat here so if you are able to lay your eyes on the repop U can spot the problem early BEFORE U BUY---Look at the middle of the window channel curve--On the factory door the channel is narrower in the arch of the curve --the doors are same all the way around--thus rubbing the drip in the arch--very noticeable if U know where to look....(driver's side is always worse)...............jim __________________ Build thread at http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=475791 Last edited by gcburdic; 11-18-2011 at 11:15 PM.

11-17-2011, 03:04 PM	#24
no moa Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: maine Posts: 2,315	Re: Goodmark quality issues Key parts, good to know. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 1972 C10 Deluxe.Shortbed. 402/400. A/C, white interior, needs complete restore. Project Red, white and blue. Used to be a Longbed apperently. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=451950 1971 c10 step 250 3 OTT 1969 c30 TOW-MATER. 307 4 speed, holmes 440 body. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=451082 2006 CTS-V LS2 6spd.

11-17-2011, 04:57 PM	#25
screamin_c10 I dun gradjiated collij!!! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: St. Helens Oregon Posts: 1,751	Re: Goodmark quality issues Its way too easy to find useable OEM doors even up here in the GNW.... I used all OEM parts on Screamin, tried an aftermarket fender and it would not even bolt up..... lesson learned. The PO of 'Boo our 67 Chevelle used aftermarket patch panels on the quarters, and they fit like a$$, gonna be alot of massaging to get them to look right.... Again, lesson learned __________________ Built NOT Bought. Viper Red 1971 LWB C10 355 Vortec W/700R4 4/5 drop AKA Screamin' You are missed! 2006 F150 XLT 5.4L Triton Rollin' on 22s the "F1" 67 C20 PS/AC/327/TH400 we call 'er "Bessie" 67 Malibu PS/ZR1-LS1 Brakes/350 Vortec/700R4 2/2 drop on 18" 338s - Tracy's "Boo" Boosted '67 Cougar EFI 5.0 HO roller motor/T5/8.8 Tracloc/ 4 wheel disks - "Project Panther" 79 Honda Z50 - stretched, cafe'd and hotrodded 125CC Lifan/5spd FEAR THE MONKEY!

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