Amsoil sales

[wyattglock]

I am now selling Amsoil products. This post is not intended to generate sales, only to gauge interest in people on the forum buying it. If there is a favorable response to the poll I will be upgrading my membership to become a vendor. I am personally using Amsoil in the 1987 Jimmy that I am borrowing from my friend while I work on my truck. It has made a difference in the way it runs and starts, definitely for the better.
Thanks for any and all input on this.

[Pyrotechnic]

I don't put a whole lot of miles on my truck the way gas prices are, and even my girlfriends car that we do drive most of the time still doesn't see many miles. Most of the time the 6 month mark shows up before 3000 miles does.

I'd start looking at synthetic when I was going to be driving a lot of miles and could really benefit from that extended oil change interval and extended engine life. I have a feeling these are probably the points you will sell most customers on.

[wyattglock]

You are correct. I personally have noticed a little better gas mileage in the Jimmy I am driving. I realize not everyone will benefit from the extended oil change interval.
Amsoil is now making three different grades of oil for the market, the signature series is the premier line and is the oil rated to go 25k between changes. The XL series is an intermediate that is intended to go up to 10k, and finally the OE is designed to go from 3k-7k. It is more geared to the individual that prefers to change their oil when the manufacturer suggests. Obviously they are priced accordingly. I am also able to get a variety of other products from them, Donaldson filters, Mann filters, Wix filters, NGK plugs and wires, Mothers car care products, AgGrand lawn care products, grease, hydraulic oils, transmission fluids, and a variety of additives. I know this is a long drawn out answer, there isnt really any way to shorten the pitch up!
Like I said on the thread opener, this is just to gauge interest. If it doesn't work out, no big deal. Fortunately I am not trying to live off this income!

[BigBlocksRule]

Already have a local dealer, the best oil products on the market IMHO.
Good luck, I hope you generate enough interest to become a supporting vendor.

[clinebarger]

Would you recommend a oil analysis be done at a certain intervals when running 25K between oil changes?

[wyattglock]

Originally Posted by clinebarger

Would you recommend a oil analysis be done at a certain intervals when running 25K between oil changes?

That is a good question. In my honest opinion, yes. I would do an oil analysis somewhere between 15k and 20k. This is just what I would do, but I will research that and see if I can find a different answer on the Amsoil site.

[wyattglock]

Thanks! A note along those lines, if you already have a dealer, this is not a ploy to get your business. Please stay with them and thanks for the business!

[BigBlocksRule]

No harm, no foul, that's not the way I took it. You have a great product that I've seen proven time and again!

[wyattglock]

Clinebarger-The only info I can find on the Amsoil site about oil analysis states that an analysis should be done after a 25k oil change to check the oil for performance. While I am no expert on the particulars of viscosity breakdown, I would personally play it safe and check it before then.

[wyattglock]

For the people that would like more info on the products from Amsoil, send me a pm or post your question on the board and I will do my best to get you an answer. This in no way means that I will sell a product as a result of any questions. I will not discuss prices until I become a supporting member in the vendor area. Thanks for your understanding on this.

[rare86]

Ive been using Amsoil for many years. I love it. Engines run smoother and cooler, and a big shock to me was oil consumption reduction in two bigblocks. One 468 the other a 8.1 (496) the 8.1 went from 1 quart consumption every 3500-4000 mile ( normal by GM standards) to 1 quart every 6000-7000 miles. Didnt suspect that at all. Running it in a 2008 Z71 with 122000 mile with very minute if any oil consumption at 12000 services.

[wyattglock]

That is pretty cool! Like I said at the start of the thread, I am running it in my loaner 87 Jimmy. Since I started running it I am getting just under 2 mpg better and the engine starts much easier. I ran a can of the power foam carb and combustion chamber cleaner through it on Thursday. After doing that, the misfire that I had on the passenger side of the block has gone away, truck has dual exhaust so it is easier to tell. The misfire has not come back as of yet, but if it does I will change the spark plugs and see what happens.

[wyattglock]

I see by the poll results that so far there are quite a few people wanting more info on the products Amsoil sells. Feel free to post a question or pm me with one and I will get an answer for you.

[GmtGmt]

Thanks, but no thanks, Im a sucker for Mobil 1 products and have allways been

[rare86]

The makers of Mobil1 and Amsoil were partners at one time. Very similar in products. Best I can tell the falling out was because Mobil1 people didnt like the 25000 mile oil change system most likely because they dont sell as much oil that way. The Amsoil filters clean out smaller particles in the oil thus allowing the extended oil changes. It doesnt break down, it gets contaminated. Mobil 1 is neither better nor worse than Amsoil, it just gets changed more often tho I dont think it really has too.

[GmtGmt]

Originally Posted by rare86

The makers of Mobil1 and Amsoil were partners at one time. Very similar in products. Best I can tell the falling out was because Mobil1 people didnt like the 25000 mile oil change system most likely because they dont sell as much oil that way. The Amsoil filters clean out smaller particles in the oil thus allowing the extended oil changes. It doesnt break down, it gets contaminated. Mobil 1 is neither better nor worse than Amsoil, it just gets changed more often tho I dont think it really has too.

long intervals suck for me as a mechanic, Oil change intervals should not be determend by the oil company but by the manufactur of the vehicle,
theres a reason for that not just a waste of money take the old 6.2 diesel they have very very short intervals like 2500miles when worked hard and 5000miles under normal use.

[wyattglock]

From the wear and pour test results that are on the web, granted they are on the web, it shows Amsoil having a slight edge over Mobil 1. Does it make a difference in real world driving? That is something that without expensive lab testing could only be decided by the driver/mechanic.
In my personal use, I am extremely pleased with Amsoil. I am leery of the extended interval drain time also, but then that is why they have come out with the 2 other lines of oil. The XL and the OE oils. They have the same wear protection, just not the long interval formulations.
The main reason I went with Amsoil over the other brands, and this is due to my research over the last few months. I was happy with the fact that I could get a street oil with a zinc additive for my flat tappet cam and lifters. I didn't want to go through the trouble of adding something at every oil change, I know I would forget. I also didn't want to add to much, I know some of the zddp additive is good, to much isn't. I also found that by being a dealer I could get it cheap enough to justify my own personal use of it.

[wyattglock]

Running out of time! There is a decent response for people wanting info, but I didn't make the user names public so I can't find out who needs it unless you either pm or post your questions. Thanks for everyone taking time to do the poll.

[wyattglock]

Only 7 days left to take the poll. I will stil answer questions after this is over, but if the response for buying isn't higher I may not be able to justify a vendor status. I see there are several people wanting info, pm or post a message and I will get you an answer.

[spudz]

I just pulled the engine out of a 09 GMC Acadia... The customer has been using amsoil. It only has 45k miles. The timing chains were worn so badly it was setting DTCs. When we tore into it to replace the timing chains I found the motor to be sludged up worse then 200k motors. You could just scrape a 1/4 in of sludge off anywhere. The customers are going through some kind of deal where we keep sending amsoil oil samples etc. ..... I for one... will NEVER ever use the stuff.... Change your oil people... its cheap insurance.. I work at a chevy dealership... I deal with cars everyday... I dont care what the manufacturer says.. Change conventional oil every 3k and synthetic every 5k.... These oil life monitors will let you run damn new 10k between oil changes with conventional oil..... That is BS.... All it is, is a way to keep the annual cost of maintenance down so it looks good on paper.....thats straight from one of GMs engineers mouth... CHANGE YOUR DAMN OIL.. at least once I week I deal with lack of maintenance issues...............

[wyattglock]

Originally Posted by spudz

I just pulled the engine out of a 09 GMC Acadia... The customer has been using amsoil. It only has 45k miles. The timing chains were worn so badly it was setting DTCs. When we tore into it to replace the timing chains I found the motor to be sludged up worse then 200k motors. You could just scrape a 1/4 in of sludge off anywhere. The customers are going through some kind of deal where we keep sending amsoil oil samples etc. ..... I for one... will NEVER ever use the stuff.... Change your oil people... its cheap insurance.. I work at a chevy dealership... I deal with cars everyday... I dont care what the manufacturer says.. Change conventional oil every 3k and synthetic every 5k.... These oil life monitors will let you run damn new 10k between oil changes with conventional oil..... That is BS.... All it is, is a way to keep the annual cost of maintenance down so it looks good on paper.....thats straight from one of GMs engineers mouth... CHANGE YOUR DAMN OIL.. at least once I week I deal with lack of maintenance issues...............

While I cant intelligently debate how the vehicle has been taken care of, and I definitely dont dispute your expertise. I can say that any product not used correctly can cause bad things to happen.
I know how this might sound, but I am still skeptical about the 25k interval. I know people who do it regularly, and in their situations it works well. They are also on the highway the majority of the time. In my opinion, if you are traveling on the highway more than in town, it could be possible to have the extended interval. I know that in town driving is the worst there is, regardless of the type of oil. I also know that driving on gravel roads or off road is harder on the oil system no matter how good the filter may be. That is why I would personally use the OE or XL grade of oil from Amsoil. Still has the wear protection, just not designed for the heavily touted 25k interval. In those cases I would still change oil at 5k and save some money doing it.

[BigBlocksRule]

So, what was the change interval on this engine? If it was in warranty, surely you guys have or can get that record...

[spudz]

Originally Posted by BigBlocksRule

So, what was the change interval on this engine? If it was in warranty, surely you guys have or can get that record...

the change interval was the 25k interval and recommended filter change etc. Amazingly, we sent a bottle of hard sludge the first time and the analysis was that the oil was still good? ok..... yeah right, we are sending another sample out now after we just changed the oil again. Since the owners *****ed so much to customer service etc, the GM area service rep instead of voiding the customers warranty for lack of maintenance agreed to foot the bill THIS time for the chains. BUT because of how nasty the engine is... It will be back.

[BigBlocksRule]

Wow...25K on a change.
That's nuts, I don't care what kind of oil was in it.

[spudz]

Originally Posted by bigblocksrule

wow...25k on a change.
That's nuts, i don't care what kind of oil was in it.

i agree