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Old 10-12-2008, 10:53 PM   #1
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Rear bag mounting pics please

I am in the middle of putting in a rear c-notch, cpp trailing arm crossmember and redoning my rear air bag setup. The PO put in really small bags and some really messy blocks/brackets..
My first question is how are you guys mounting your air bags?? When you put in the c-notch are you taking out the rear spring upper plate. Are you mounting the bag to the trailing arm with just one bolt up through the trailing arm.. If you got any pics I would like to see them..
Second I was wondering what bags you guys are running. I was going to get the Doninators, but wasn't sure if they were to big for the front and rear.

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Old 10-12-2008, 11:18 PM   #2
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Re: Rear bag mounting pics please

here is my 86 with f9000



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Old 10-12-2008, 11:34 PM   #3
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Wow, that is alittle out of my league. I am just putting a c-notch and cpp crossmember.
But, is that ever nice...
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Old 10-13-2008, 12:44 AM   #4
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Re: Rear bag mounting pics please

here is what I've got...



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Old 10-13-2008, 01:21 AM   #5
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Re: Rear bag mounting pics please

Mine on my '72 burb


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Old 10-13-2008, 09:47 PM   #6
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Re: Rear bag mounting pics please

Got the c-notch finshed off today... Should of taken some pics, but everybody has see it before..
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:05 PM   #7
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What's with all the bolts? Just making stronger or is there another reason Im not seeing??

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Old 10-14-2008, 09:24 PM   #8
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What's with all the bolts? Just making stronger or is there another reason Im not seeing??
That's Porterbuilts bolt-in rear 'Dropmember'.
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Old 10-13-2008, 11:15 PM   #9
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I must say that it is refreshing to see people running the correct bag on the rear in this thread.
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Old 10-14-2008, 10:40 AM   #10
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what would the wrong bag be,I,m going to do mine here soon ,would like to know
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Old 10-14-2008, 11:38 AM   #11
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I'm guessing a dual convoluted bag. Sleeve bags are better for this application, atleast with ride quality in that mounting area. Besides that, I don't know...
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well every bag pictured here so far is a F9000 "sleeve" bag. The double convolute bag aka firestone 2600lb, Slam specialties RE-7 RE-8, etc. are also popular in rear aplications but many feel they are not ideal. Neither bag is "wrong" just suitable for different apps.

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Old 10-14-2008, 02:54 PM   #13
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Man u guys have some beautiful rear suspensions!! Its just like art or something. My suspension will not be as elaborate but i can appreciate your work, AWESOME!!
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Old 10-14-2008, 03:46 PM   #14
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Ya, I wish I had to time and $$$ for something like that. But I will just have to keep it simple. I have a hard time getting the simple stuff done. 20 min. here and 20 min. there just ain't cutting it..
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well every bag pictured here so far is a F9000 "sleeve" bag. The double convolute bag aka firestone 2600lb, Slam specialties RE-7 RE-8, etc. are also popular in rear aplications but many feel they are not ideal. Neither bag is "wrong" just suitable for different apps.

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Mk, that's what I thought. Wasn't sure w/ how sure the other poster was about how it was wrong. Thanks for clearin it up.
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Old 10-14-2008, 06:19 PM   #16
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Re: Rear bag mounting pics please

Is this what you are looking for? I have a single bolt through the trailing arm. The upper bags studs go through the notch and frame. The studs were barely long enough to go through the frame and notch (only a couple of threads showing). Not that they are going to fall out, but I'd like to know what others are doing to remedy this situation. My thought was to remove the notch and enlarge the holes in the frame (large enough for a socket the size of the nut to fit through). Then bolt the notch back on, put the nuts on the studs and tighten them down. Then the bag would actually be bolted to the notch only. Make sense?
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Is this what you are looking for? I have a single bolt through the trailing arm. The upper bags studs go through the notch and frame. The studs were barely long enough to go through the frame and notch (only a couple of threads showing). Not that they are going to fall out, but I'd like to know what others are doing to remedy this situation. My thought was to remove the notch and enlarge the holes in the frame (large enough for a socket the size of the nut to fit through). Then bolt the notch back on, put the nuts on the studs and tighten them down. Then the bag would actually be bolted to the notch only. Make sense?
Flip the bag or swap to Slams .

Since you already have the Stones, they can be inverted vs. the way you have them installed. This allows for the use of a bolt that gets the correct amount of thread engagement through the c-notch + frame + reinforcement plate. For the trailing arms, 'clock' the bag so the studs straddle the C/L of the trailing arms 2-halves. Drill 3/8" holes for the studs & the larger 1/2" hole for the air fitting. Route the airline so it's not contacting anything & call it done.

I had them installed this way in my 68 because of the same issue w/there barely being enough thread to secure the studs through the frame & notch.

Slams use bolts on top & bottom so they're more user friendly on these trucks. I'm not sure what newer Stones use these days either.....
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:39 PM   #18
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Re: Rear bag mounting pics please

Slammed67, that is exactly the kind of pic I was looking for and I too had the same questions about the studs on the top.
What do you guys think of the Dominators for installing??

Anybody got more pics to help a rookie out..
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slammed67 could you post up some more pics of your setup im also needing some pics
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Crap like that is why repairing someone elses FUBAR was a double shop rate bill.
At least it's fairly solid looking. What I don't get is why block the axle for MORE drop but then space the bag up for LESS drop?
Yikes.
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Crap like that is why repairing someone elses FUBAR was a double shop rate bill.
At least it's fairly solid looking. What I don't get is why block the axle for MORE drop but then space the bag up for LESS drop?
Yikes.
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I'm just guessing... but it looks like they were bottoming out and maybe put the block in there to keep the frame from hitting axle (bumpstop) when full aired out... rather than notching?

I always wanted bags so I could get my truck on concrete... but I'm finding there are a lot of people out there bagged who have no intention of laying frame.
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Old 10-26-2008, 06:02 PM   #22
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I got the c-notch in and just set the bags in there to see how they fit. Looks good. The only thing I did notice was that the diff hits the box before the axle hits the bumpstop. Should I just space the bumpstop down abit?
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I got the c-notch in and just set the bags in there to see how they fit. Looks good. The only thing I did notice was that the diff hits the box before the axle hits the bumpstop. Should I just space the bumpstop down abit?
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or trim a nice little hlole in the bed for the diff to pop thru
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Here's the pic..
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Dominator 1:1 ??? you got a part number?
Sorry, what I mant was 1-for-1 swap. I removed the Slams and directly replaced them with the Dominators.
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Should I just space the bumpstop down abit?
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Yep. Taller bumpstop- or clearance the floor...
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