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Alan's Classic · 06-01-2009, 08:51 PM

This a pretty wild story. I listed some parts on CL and 198Plus called me about my SWB step bed I had for sale. I told him about this forum and sent him a link to my build. He signed up and contacted me right away and said he was interested in me doing his truck.

Well, we met today. He is one cool dude. He bought my bed and a fender and left his other fender and doors with me. He told me of his experiences with bodyshops and it wasn't good. I'm sure he will chime in with more info.

It was his Dad's truck I believe and wants to make a nice original driver out of it for weekend cruises.

So for now I've got the bed, doors and fenders to work on and he will be bringing the cab in a couple of weeks. Here are some shots of what other shops have done to him. One shop swipped his good doors and gave these to him and not telling him. He said they were painted and all nice and shinny until further inspection. He had them blasted and this is what he found.

This was impressive

Check out the belly under the level

Bent inner panel

198plus · 06-01-2009, 09:12 PM

Alan, I just wanted to say thanks and it was nice meeting you.
I love the work you have done to your truck....Can't wait for mine to get finished it's been five years........Cough, Cough......Hope your working on mine LATE tonight......

Oh and by the way.......I can tell folks where not to take their truck too

1964C10 · 06-01-2009, 09:38 PM

Even from a distance, look at the body lines on Alan's truck in the background, nice and tight and the reflection of the light is one straight line. Very nice job Alan!

**Captainfab** · 06-02-2009, 12:22 AM

I've seen this type of work all to often.It's really frustrating the kind of crap work that so many businesses put out. Then to top it all off they take their sweet time and charge for a quality job.

You don't have anything to worry about now that Alan is on the project. He does top quality work.

Alan's Classic · 06-02-2009, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Captainfab

I've seen this type of work all to often.It's really frustrating the kind of crap work that so many businesses put out. Then to top it all off they take their sweet time and charge for a quality job.

You don't have anything to worry about now that Alan is on the project. He does top quality work.

Thanks Captain for the vote of confidence. I'm thinking labor wise it would be cheaper to get repop doors and fit them. There will be less labor involved and would last longer IMHO.

aggie91 · 06-02-2009, 09:14 AM

Alan

Glad to see that you got some work, and it is not another miata...while looking at the pics, I was thinking the same thing about the doors, repops might be a better long term solution even though you can get these back in shape with your skills.

198plus

Welcome to the board, your truck is in good hands. When Alan gets yours done, that will be 2 trucks he has made progress on in a short time, really makes me feel like a slacker...

Alan's Classic · 06-02-2009, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 1964C10

Even from a distance, look at the body lines on Alan's truck in the background, nice and tight and the reflection of the light is one straight line. Very nice job Alan!

Thanks Man! There is alot of time in those doors. While I was doing it I was wondering why the heck was I being so anal. Now I know.....The finished product.

ruffrida2005 · 06-02-2009, 10:27 AM

Good to see you got some work Alan! I cant wait to see this build up!

Strodder · 06-02-2009, 08:30 PM

Good going Allan. You'll have some extra $$$ for your build. Now all you need is time to do both.

Alan's Classic · 06-02-2009, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by aggie91

Alan

Glad to see that you got some work, and it is not another miata...while looking at the pics, I was thinking the same thing about the doors, repops might be a better long term solution even though you can get these back in shape with your skills.

198plus

Welcome to the board, your truck is in good hands. When Alan gets yours done, that will be 2 trucks he has made progress on in a short time, really makes me feel like a slacker...

about the Miata. Super Chevy is in town this weekend 198 says he's going there to see what he can find. I hope I get to go to the show also.

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Originally Posted by ruffrida2005

Good to see you got some work Alan! I cant wait to see this build up!

I'm happy also. I want to do him a good job while working with his budget. We had a good conversation today about the doors. I think some better used doors or even new would be the lesser of the 2 evils.

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Originally Posted by Strodder

Good going Allan. You'll have some extra $$$ for your build. Now all you need is time to do both.

Thanks Dennis, I guess I can work on mine when I get some downtime waiting on parts etc.

Tonight it took 2.5 hours to get the bed apart without destroying it. I had too torch 90% of the bolts and didn't mess anything up.

For those that might need to know this is where the rear sill welds to the inner panels. Fleets are the same. My fleet had a tack on the top of the sill also. This one didn't. Remember the bed is upside down in the pic.

Ready for the blaster

2.5

protrash64 · 06-02-2009, 09:48 PM

I have to vote against the re-pop doors. Being that Im not paying, I want to see you really work those things over to get 'em straight

....I'm sure we'd all learn a thing or two.

**ChiefRocka** · 06-02-2009, 09:53 PM

MAN...what a crap job that is....I'm sure he will be pleased with the outcome of Alan's work !!!!

ol Curt · 06-02-2009, 10:24 PM

Hmmmm Ball Ground, GA.....Newburgh , IN
Couldn't be that far. Heck, he might have a whole slough of us lined up along his street with trucks needing work!

joe231 · 06-02-2009, 11:13 PM

198plus!!
your baby is in good hands!!

and

Alan...now get back to work

Strodder · 06-02-2009, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by joe231

198plus!!
your baby is in good hands!!

and

Alan...now get back to work

X 2

joe231 · 06-02-2009, 11:14 PM

dangit!!!

Alan's Classic · 06-02-2009, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by protrash64

I have to vote against the re-pop doors. Being that Im not paying, I want to see you really work those things over to get 'em straight

....I'm sure we'd all learn a thing or two.

I would like to try to straighten these things out, but not at his expense. It would be a good test.

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Originally Posted by ChiefRocka

When what a crap job that is....I'm sure he will be pleased with the outcome of Alan's work !!!!

Thanks John. 198 says the doors he gave the shop were near perfect. Can you say switch-a-roo

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Originally Posted by ol Curt

Hmmmm Ball Ground, GA.....Newburgh , IN
Couldn't be that far. Heck, he might have a whole slough of us lined up along his street with trucks needing work!

That would be a dream come true. If I had the space I'd say come on.

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Originally Posted by joe231

dangit!!!

dangit........what??? Did I miss something.

198plus · 06-03-2009, 12:24 AM

Thanks for the welcome everyone.........Thought I'd share a couple pics with y'all.

This is the first engine I built for it.........It's a 355 with a set of RPM heads 2.02 valves with 64cc.......Crane cam 488-510 LIFT, 234-244 @ 0.50 lift DURATION, 112 LOBE SEP. With a 30 spline 700R trans with 2800 lockup stall.

Had this all finished with new Hot Jet coated headers....And was sitting in my garage one night and said what the hell I'll put a Big Block in it !!!!!

So here was my next engine project.......

1970 402 BBC....30 over......408ci

11.1 compression

Speed Pro ZL2328F-30 Forged Pistons....0.319 Dome

Comp Custom Grind (ROLLER CAM)..... 570/578 lift.......234/240 Duration @ 50
820 Oval Port heads 110cc......Comp roller springs

Comp Roller rockers 1.7

Lunati Full Roller Timing Set with Torrington Bearings

Edelbrock Torker 2 Intake

Quick Fuel 750 Carb.

Now I have changed my mine again and I'm in the process now of building new engine again ???????

Strodder · 06-03-2009, 10:40 AM

Sounds like you'll be spending a lot of money on this project.

MacAttack · 06-03-2009, 10:45 AM

Sweet power plant - that girl’s going to be setting the rear meats on fire, for sure!

Welcome from the Left Coast.

Mac.

joe231 · 06-03-2009, 11:09 AM

my eyes deceiving me or does the carb sit crooked?

Strodder · 06-03-2009, 11:14 AM

Yup that's right

198plus · 06-03-2009, 03:23 PM

Yea the carb does set ....crooked.......It's an Edelbrock Torker intake back from the old days.......Good conversation piece.

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Originally Posted by joe231

my eyes deceiving me or does the carb sit crooked?

protrash64 · 06-03-2009, 09:47 PM

My buddy had one of those on his 396 '68 Camaro.....we rolled it into the woods......and I still have scars

Alan's Classic · 06-03-2009, 10:44 PM

198 will pick up the bed and fenders Friday to go to the blaster. Nothing to work on tonight, so I worked on mine.

What has to be done to a 65 auto column for a power glide to work with a 3 spd auto if anything other than the indicator. Can the indicator be replaced with a different indicator? I'm curious if there is enough movement in the shifter to operate a 3 spd.

Thanks

06-01-2009, 08:51 PM	#1
Alan's Classic 1 thing at a time is progress. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ball Ground GA Posts: 5,511	198Plus build This a pretty wild story. I listed some parts on CL and 198Plus called me about my SWB step bed I had for sale. I told him about this forum and sent him a link to my build. He signed up and contacted me right away and said he was interested in me doing his truck. Well, we met today. He is one cool dude. He bought my bed and a fender and left his other fender and doors with me. He told me of his experiences with bodyshops and it wasn't good. I'm sure he will chime in with more info. It was his Dad's truck I believe and wants to make a nice original driver out of it for weekend cruises. So for now I've got the bed, doors and fenders to work on and he will be bringing the cab in a couple of weeks. Here are some shots of what other shops have done to him. One shop swipped his good doors and gave these to him and not telling him. He said they were painted and all nice and shinny until further inspection. He had them blasted and this is what he found. This was impressive Check out the belly under the level Bent inner panel __________________ Alan Philippians 2:14-16 Alan's Classic Facebook page. North Georgia Group Project 1965 Vitamin C-10 1995 GMC Sierra K1500 The "Wrecker"

06-01-2009, 09:12 PM	#2
198plus Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Loganville, Ga. Posts: 1,408	Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic Alan, I just wanted to say thanks and it was nice meeting you. I love the work you have done to your truck....Can't wait for mine to get finished it's been five years........Cough, Cough......Hope your working on mine LATE tonight...... Oh and by the way.......I can tell folks where not to take their truck too Last edited by 198plus; 06-01-2009 at 09:16 PM.

06-01-2009, 09:38 PM	#3
1964C10 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: San Marcos, CA Posts: 578	Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic Even from a distance, look at the body lines on Alan's truck in the background, nice and tight and the reflection of the light is one straight line. Very nice job Alan! __________________ 1964 Fleetside LWB 1995 Yellow Mustang convertible 1996 Camaro Z28 My build thread Looking for help on completing the Disc Brake Upgrade Reference Thread If you didn't build it, you don't really own it

06-02-2009, 12:22 AM	#4
Captainfab 60-66 Nut Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Posts: 23,251	Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic I've seen this type of work all to often.It's really frustrating the kind of crap work that so many businesses put out. Then to top it all off they take their sweet time and charge for a quality job. You don't have anything to worry about now that Alan is on the project. He does top quality work. __________________ Power Steering Box Adapter Plates For Sale HERE Power Brake Booster Adapter Brackets For Sale '63-'66 HERE and '67-'72 HERE and '60-'62 HERE and "60-'62 with clutch HERE Rear Disc Brake Brackets For Sale. Impala SS calipers HERE Camaro Calipers HERE D52 Calipers HERE 6 Lug HERE Hydroboost Mounting Plates HERE

06-02-2009, 09:14 AM	#6
aggie91 I'm just glad to be here! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Longview, TX Posts: 4,788	Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic Alan Glad to see that you got some work, and it is not another miata...while looking at the pics, I was thinking the same thing about the doors, repops might be a better long term solution even though you can get these back in shape with your skills. 198plus Welcome to the board, your truck is in good hands. When Alan gets yours done, that will be 2 trucks he has made progress on in a short time, really makes me feel like a slacker... __________________ Karl 1965 Chevy Stepside(Grandpa's Old Blue) and (July 2015 Shop Build!)(2020, the Saga Continues) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=372424 The LST Challenge: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post7812257 Korbin's 1st Square: "Sunburn" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=418618 1985 GMC Sierra: "White Trash", Korbin's 2nd now... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=632305 Henry - 1984 Chevrolet, Owen's 1st Square

06-02-2009, 10:27 AM	#8
ruffrida2005 Member of the longbed union. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Killeen, Tx Posts: 2,158	Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic Good to see you got some work Alan! I cant wait to see this build up! __________________ Paul 88 GMC Crew Cab dually, 454/T400 64 LWB 400 HP 350/350T Bagged, under construction! Sold most of it! 92 S10 Iron Duke 5 speed, 5/7 drop for now. soon to be bagged. Sold http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...59#post4637759

06-02-2009, 08:30 PM	#9
Strodder Daring to be Different Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hesperia, Ca Posts: 4,499	Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic Good going Allan. You'll have some extra $$$ for your build. Now all you need is time to do both. __________________ *Dennis* Check out my 65/73 Cheap Build Thread. http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=327644 *KUSTOM RIDES* FACE BOOK PAGE: https://www.facebook.com/groups/291198124258863/ 1965 C-10 Short Bed 350/700r4 2012 Silverado 1500 Crew Cab 2016 Honda Accord w/ 18" rims 2007 Honda Goldwing Trike w/ NAVI 2001 Yamaha Roadstar Indian look alike "Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...WOW!...what an amazing ride!" Live Life Passionately!!! [/COLOR] *I AM WE TODD IT, I AM SOFA KING WE TODD IT*

06-02-2009, 09:48 PM	#11
protrash64 Resistance is Futile Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mesa,Arizona Posts: 3,520	Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic I have to vote against the re-pop doors. Being that Im not paying, I want to see you really work those things over to get 'em straight....I'm sure we'd all learn a thing or two. __________________ 64 CHEVY PICK-UP > http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...otrash+re-hash 64 CARRYALL >http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1964+suburban 66 LB >http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=427852 STRENGTH/DETERMINATION/MERCILESS/FOREVER .......posted via stationary device

06-02-2009, 09:53 PM	#12
ChiefRocka Hollister, CA. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Hollister, Ca. Posts: 6,150	Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic MAN...what a crap job that is....I'm sure he will be pleased with the outcome of Alan's work !!!! __________________ John What the Heck is that ?? CURRENT BUILDS: 62 BurbMaster Other Builds: My '63 C-10,LWB,CC,BBW '06 HD StrAight Axle Swap Father/Son '67 C-20, LQ9,4L80,Bagged,8-Lugger !!Good Friend Richard's Build AMERICAN CUSTOMS & CLASSICS (831) 630-1965 www.ACCHOLLISTER.com ACC on FACEBOOK "Rest in Peace, Mom & Dad ... I will see you again someday!" Last edited by ChiefRocka; 06-03-2009 at 08:35 AM.

06-02-2009, 10:24 PM	#13
ol Curt Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Newburgh, IN Posts: 1,247	Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic Hmmmm Ball Ground, GA.....Newburgh , IN Couldn't be that far. Heck, he might have a whole slough of us lined up along his street with trucks needing work! __________________ 1966 Chevy C10 Longbed I'm Bob....ol Curt was my Grandpa The truck was his and he sure as heck wouldn't understand why I took a perfectly good truck and tore it down!

06-02-2009, 11:13 PM	#14
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic 198plus!! your baby is in good hands!! and Alan...now get back to work __________________ *CHEVY ONLY*

06-02-2009, 11:14 PM	#16
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic dangit!!! __________________ *CHEVY ONLY* Last edited by joe231; 06-02-2009 at 11:15 PM. Reason: stupid computer....or the guy behind the keyboard lol

06-03-2009, 12:24 AM	#18
198plus Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Loganville, Ga. Posts: 1,408	Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic Thanks for the welcome everyone.........Thought I'd share a couple pics with y'all. This is the first engine I built for it.........It's a 355 with a set of RPM heads 2.02 valves with 64cc.......Crane cam 488-510 LIFT, 234-244 @ 0.50 lift DURATION, 112 LOBE SEP. With a 30 spline 700R trans with 2800 lockup stall. Had this all finished with new Hot Jet coated headers....And was sitting in my garage one night and said what the hell I'll put a Big Block in it !!!!! So here was my next engine project....... 1970 402 BBC....30 over......408ci 11.1 compression Speed Pro ZL2328F-30 Forged Pistons....0.319 Dome Comp Custom Grind (ROLLER CAM)..... 570/578 lift.......234/240 Duration @ 50 820 Oval Port heads 110cc......Comp roller springs Comp Roller rockers 1.7 Lunati Full Roller Timing Set with Torrington Bearings Edelbrock Torker 2 Intake Quick Fuel 750 Carb. Now I have changed my mine again and I'm in the process now of building new engine again ???????

06-03-2009, 10:40 AM	#19
Strodder Daring to be Different Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hesperia, Ca Posts: 4,499	Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic Sounds like you'll be spending a lot of money on this project. __________________ *Dennis* Check out my 65/73 Cheap Build Thread. http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=327644 *KUSTOM RIDES* FACE BOOK PAGE: https://www.facebook.com/groups/291198124258863/ 1965 C-10 Short Bed 350/700r4 2012 Silverado 1500 Crew Cab 2016 Honda Accord w/ 18" rims 2007 Honda Goldwing Trike w/ NAVI 2001 Yamaha Roadstar Indian look alike "Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...WOW!...what an amazing ride!" Live Life Passionately!!! [/COLOR] *I AM WE TODD IT, I AM SOFA KING WE TODD IT*

06-03-2009, 10:45 AM	#20
MacAttack 283 Drama Queen Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Surf City, CA Posts: 2,435	Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic Sweet power plant - that girl’s going to be setting the rear meats on fire, for sure! Welcome from the Left Coast. Mac. __________________ For about 12 years of my adult life I had a severe speech impediment. My ex-wife never let me get a word in edgewise. Last edited by MacAttack; 06-03-2009 at 10:45 AM.



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06-03-2009, 11:09 AM	#21
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic my eyes deceiving me or does the carb sit crooked? __________________ *CHEVY ONLY*

06-03-2009, 11:14 AM	#22
Strodder Daring to be Different Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hesperia, Ca Posts: 4,499	Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic Yup that's right __________________ *Dennis* Check out my 65/73 Cheap Build Thread. http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=327644 *KUSTOM RIDES* FACE BOOK PAGE: https://www.facebook.com/groups/291198124258863/ 1965 C-10 Short Bed 350/700r4 2012 Silverado 1500 Crew Cab 2016 Honda Accord w/ 18" rims 2007 Honda Goldwing Trike w/ NAVI 2001 Yamaha Roadstar Indian look alike "Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...WOW!...what an amazing ride!" Live Life Passionately!!! [/COLOR] *I AM WE TODD IT, I AM SOFA KING WE TODD IT*

06-03-2009, 09:47 PM	#24
protrash64 Resistance is Futile Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mesa,Arizona Posts: 3,520	Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic My buddy had one of those on his 396 '68 Camaro.....we rolled it into the woods......and I still have scars __________________ 64 CHEVY PICK-UP > http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...otrash+re-hash 64 CARRYALL >http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1964+suburban 66 LB >http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=427852 STRENGTH/DETERMINATION/MERCILESS/FOREVER .......posted via stationary device

06-03-2009, 10:44 PM	#25
Alan's Classic 1 thing at a time is progress. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ball Ground GA Posts: 5,511	Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic 198 will pick up the bed and fenders Friday to go to the blaster. Nothing to work on tonight, so I worked on mine. What has to be done to a 65 auto column for a power glide to work with a 3 spd auto if anything other than the indicator. Can the indicator be replaced with a different indicator? I'm curious if there is enough movement in the shifter to operate a 3 spd. Thanks __________________ Alan Philippians 2:14-16 Alan's Classic Facebook page. North Georgia Group Project 1965 Vitamin C-10 1995 GMC Sierra K1500 The "Wrecker"

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