Can you set rolling frame on is side for cleaning/painting ??? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

Green Machine · 10-28-2005, 12:34 PM

Gonna take the cab off today and will just have a bare rolling frame with old tires on it. Can or should I even attempt to set this thing on its side, resting on the side of the tires for cleaning, will it even sit or fall over ???, will I bend or wreck any axles or suspension ? Should I leave the rear shocks on so springs won't extend to far ??? Thanks for any suggestions.

*FormerMember* · 10-28-2005, 12:46 PM

I don't see how it would cause an issue if you moved it slowly.

Joe67 · 10-28-2005, 12:52 PM

I agree, should be fine if you can get it up somehow. Be sure it is SECURE before working on it

sneakysnake · 10-28-2005, 01:00 PM

The only real problem I see is the gear oil in the rear end, with it up on its side if the seal aint what it used to be it might leak out out onto your brakes.

Green Machine · 10-28-2005, 01:38 PM

I did think aout the brake thing, and it needs new brake and axle seals anyway, maybe I should just pull the cover now and drain most of it ? Do you think 3 or 4 guys could lift it ? Thanks.

Joe67 · 10-28-2005, 01:45 PM

4 guys might be a stretch. Why not a cherry picker on one side and lift it up

Green Machine · 10-28-2005, 01:57 PM

Sometimes I'm so dense - I have the cherry picker still here that I borrowed to pull the engine - duhh - work smarter not harder - LOL that would be safer too.

Joe67 · 10-28-2005, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Green Machine

Sometimes I'm so dense - I have the cherry picker still here that I borrowed to pull the engine - duhh - work smarter not harder - LOL that would be safer too.

Geezer · 10-28-2005, 07:07 PM

I didn't have any problems.

farside847 · 10-28-2005, 07:31 PM

hey, its a new kind of wheelie!!! (get it, two wheels off the ground, haha. Oh, nevermind.)

Green Machine · 10-28-2005, 10:43 PM

oh my gawd, the neighbors and people driving by are breaking there necks looking the way it is, wait till we get that frame on its side, that'll give em something to talk about - Thanks

CG · 10-28-2005, 11:28 PM

why didnt you just flip it upside down?

Russell · 10-29-2005, 02:14 AM

Hmm, I wish I had thought of flipping it over before I put the body back on, lol

I guess, I'm pretty much done painting the bottom side anyways, I just do a small stretch every time I'm out in the shop.

69 air cab · 10-29-2005, 10:15 AM

I actually did the same thing as geezer picture after draining the rearend. Note that geezer kept it hooked up to keep from falling on him.........at least I guess that is what he did. The sucker will fall on you once you put water pressure on it. Clamp a 2x4 to it if you have to so it is braced up.

Russell · 10-29-2005, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 69 air cab

I actually did the same thing as geezer picture after draining the rearend. Note that geezer kept it hooked up to keep from falling on him.........at least I guess that is what he did. The sucker will fall on you once you put water pressure on it. Clamp a 2x4 to it if you have to so it is braced up.

Thats only a good idea if you can trust the hydraulics you are working with.

I've got a fullsize skidsteer that I use for that kind of stuff all the time, cept its big enough to lift the whole truck, not just the frame.

However, I absolutely NEVER stand under, or let anyone else stand under a load that I've lifted. Infact, I hate to crawl out of the front, and jump under the bucket to get out of the machine if the bucket is too high to climb onto to get out.

I was once lifting a junk cab (relatively light for that machine, it honestly doesn't even feel it) and as I was bouncing along, I lost my boom hydraulic seal, the cab fell down extremely quickly as a result. I had the forks through where the back window once was, and after the boom failed, the bucket crushed the back half of the cab close enough to the ground that I could nearly pound a regular sized nail through it. I can hardly imagine if someone was standing underneith that thing!

That, and if I had that thing holding my frame up, and it failed then, you can only imagine the frame damage that'd occur!

I guess, he is using a pretty small front loader, but still, the same basic concept should be applied.

Skruffy · 10-29-2005, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Russell

However, I absolutely NEVER stand under, or let anyone else stand under a load that I've lifted. Infact, I hate to crawl out of the front, and jump under the bucket to get out of the machine if the bucket is too high to climb onto to get out.

I was once lifting a junk cab (relatively light for that machine, it honestly doesn't even feel it) and as I was bouncing along, I lost my boom hydraulic seal, the cab fell down extremely quickly as a result. I had the forks through where the back window once was, and after the boom failed, the bucket crushed the back half of the cab close enough to the ground that I could nearly pound a regular sized nail through it. I can hardly imagine if someone was standing underneith that thing!

I think this looks perfectly safe.

phantom dually · 10-29-2005, 02:58 PM

Gotta love that!!

phantom dually · 10-29-2005, 03:00 PM

Thats why I ordered this!! Early Christmas!!

tomatocity · 10-29-2005, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by phantom dually

Thats why I ordered this!! Early Christmas!!

Did it come with the Corvettes

69 air cab · 10-29-2005, 04:44 PM

that guy under that truck is nuts...........
now I like th corvettes........

69 air cab · 10-29-2005, 05:26 PM

phantom Dulley.............I'll trade you a truck for a corvette..........better still I'll trad you two trucks for a corvette and you can keep the rack.
I always wondered if those racks would really work in a 8' ceiling shop. Nice incentive to buy to convertibles. Nice Christmas present!!!

70 shorty · 10-29-2005, 08:02 PM

My buddy has that exact setup as far as the cars are concerned, not the lift. He has a hot rodded but beautiful conditon 66 convertible and just last week he bought a 97 36000 mile C5. Must be nice is all I have to say. Now as far as the frame goes, I was going to say, well you've got the frame on it's side, the bed on end, so now you've got to put a cab on it's back an take a picture of all 3 peices.

Green Machine · 10-29-2005, 10:21 PM

Got er did, used engine hoist in the center to lift on side, cleaned that side the reversed and lifted the other side, we had the rear end out, so it was pretty light, heres one of my bad pics again....thats my oldest son ,on his knees, running the pressure washer, he's really good at this, he hates dirt and is on a mission to kill it all -lol.

Tycoon4u · 10-29-2005, 10:50 PM

Sure glad I read this tread this morning. Got mine done today too. thanks guys!!

Skruffy · 10-30-2005, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tycoon4u

Sure glad I read this tread this morning. Got mine done today too. thanks guys!!

That looks like a nice cherry-picker, mind if I ask where it's from?

10-28-2005, 12:34 PM	#1
Green Machine Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Estherville, Iowa Posts: 3,371	Can you set rolling frame on is side for cleaning/painting ??? Gonna take the cab off today and will just have a bare rolling frame with old tires on it. Can or should I even attempt to set this thing on its side, resting on the side of the tires for cleaning, will it even sit or fall over ???, will I bend or wreck any axles or suspension ? Should I leave the rear shocks on so springs won't extend to far ??? Thanks for any suggestions. __________________ 1968 C10 307 3spd Long Fleet ------ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=201103 1970 C10 305 Super T10 Long Fleet --- http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=202285 1971 C20 383 TH350 Dana Posi ----- http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=206894 2001 GMC Sierra 1500 C3 6.0

10-28-2005, 12:46 PM	#2
FormerMember Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,051	Re: Can you set rolling frame on is side for cleaning/painting ??? I don't see how it would cause an issue if you moved it slowly.

10-28-2005, 12:52 PM	#3
Joe67 67 is sold Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Troy, Michigan Posts: 6,738	Re: Can you set rolling frame on is side for cleaning/painting ??? I agree, should be fine if you can get it up somehow. Be sure it is SECURE before working on it __________________ Joe - Formerly 67c10step ------------------------------- 1967 Chevy Stepside - ECE 4/6, fuelcell, 5lug - SOLD gr8lakes - My ebay auctions Click here to order forum apparel :: Click here to become a subscribing member

10-28-2005, 01:00 PM	#4
sneakysnake It's a catastrophic success. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 2,077	Re: Can you set rolling frame on is side for cleaning/painting ??? The only real problem I see is the gear oil in the rear end, with it up on its side if the seal aint what it used to be it might leak out out onto your brakes.

10-28-2005, 01:38 PM	#5
Green Machine Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Estherville, Iowa Posts: 3,371	Re: Can you set rolling frame on is side for cleaning/painting ??? I did think aout the brake thing, and it needs new brake and axle seals anyway, maybe I should just pull the cover now and drain most of it ? Do you think 3 or 4 guys could lift it ? Thanks. __________________ 1968 C10 307 3spd Long Fleet ------ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=201103 1970 C10 305 Super T10 Long Fleet --- http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=202285 1971 C20 383 TH350 Dana Posi ----- http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=206894 2001 GMC Sierra 1500 C3 6.0

10-28-2005, 01:45 PM	#6
Joe67 67 is sold Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Troy, Michigan Posts: 6,738	Re: Can you set rolling frame on is side for cleaning/painting ??? 4 guys might be a stretch. Why not a cherry picker on one side and lift it up __________________ Joe - Formerly 67c10step ------------------------------- 1967 Chevy Stepside - ECE 4/6, fuelcell, 5lug - SOLD gr8lakes - My ebay auctions Click here to order forum apparel :: Click here to become a subscribing member

10-28-2005, 01:57 PM	#7
Green Machine Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Estherville, Iowa Posts: 3,371	Re: Can you set rolling frame on is side for cleaning/painting ??? Sometimes I'm so dense - I have the cherry picker still here that I borrowed to pull the engine - duhh - work smarter not harder - LOL that would be safer too. __________________ 1968 C10 307 3spd Long Fleet ------ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=201103 1970 C10 305 Super T10 Long Fleet --- http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=202285 1971 C20 383 TH350 Dana Posi ----- http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=206894 2001 GMC Sierra 1500 C3 6.0

10-28-2005, 07:07 PM	#9
Geezer Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Spring Branch Texas Posts: 177	Re: Can you set rolling frame on is side for cleaning/painting ??? I didn't have any problems. __________________ If you can't drive it park it! If you can't park it milk it!

10-28-2005, 07:31 PM	#10
farside847 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 995	Re: Can you set rolling frame on is side for cleaning/painting ??? hey, its a new kind of wheelie!!! (get it, two wheels off the ground, haha. Oh, nevermind.) __________________ 1971 Chevy C10 Shortbed Stepside, 307v8 3-on-the-tree

10-28-2005, 10:43 PM	#11
Green Machine Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Estherville, Iowa Posts: 3,371	Re: Can you set rolling frame on is side for cleaning/painting ??? oh my gawd, the neighbors and people driving by are breaking there necks looking the way it is, wait till we get that frame on its side, that'll give em something to talk about - Thanks __________________ 1968 C10 307 3spd Long Fleet ------ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=201103 1970 C10 305 Super T10 Long Fleet --- http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=202285 1971 C20 383 TH350 Dana Posi ----- http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=206894 2001 GMC Sierra 1500 C3 6.0

10-28-2005, 11:28 PM	#12
CG BlahBlahBlah Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wa. Posts: 19,995	Re: Can you set rolling frame on is side for cleaning/painting ??? why didnt you just flip it upside down?

10-29-2005, 02:14 AM	#13
Russell Professional Grade Join Date: May 2003 Location: Fort McMurray, Alberta Posts: 7,915	Re: Can you set rolling frame on is side for cleaning/painting ??? Hmm, I wish I had thought of flipping it over before I put the body back on, lol I guess, I'm pretty much done painting the bottom side anyways, I just do a small stretch every time I'm out in the shop. __________________ 1995 Chevrolet 2 Door Tahoe (6.6L LBZ Duramax / ZF6 / NP241 with 1 ton solid axle swap)

10-29-2005, 10:15 AM	#14
69 air cab Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Maryville, TN Posts: 477	Re: Can you set rolling frame on is side for cleaning/painting ??? I actually did the same thing as geezer picture after draining the rearend. Note that geezer kept it hooked up to keep from falling on him.........at least I guess that is what he did. The sucker will fall on you once you put water pressure on it. Clamp a 2x4 to it if you have to so it is braced up.

10-29-2005, 02:58 PM	#17
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	Re: Can you set rolling frame on is side for cleaning/painting ??? Gotta love that!! __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

10-29-2005, 03:00 PM	#18
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	Re: Can you set rolling frame on is side for cleaning/painting ??? Thats why I ordered this!! Early Christmas!! Attached Images __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448



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10-29-2005, 04:44 PM	#20
69 air cab Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Maryville, TN Posts: 477	Re: Can you set rolling frame on is side for cleaning/painting ??? that guy under that truck is nuts........... now I like th corvettes........

10-29-2005, 05:26 PM	#21
69 air cab Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Maryville, TN Posts: 477	Re: Can you set rolling frame on is side for cleaning/painting ??? phantom Dulley.............I'll trade you a truck for a corvette..........better still I'll trad you two trucks for a corvette and you can keep the rack. I always wondered if those racks would really work in a 8' ceiling shop. Nice incentive to buy to convertibles. Nice Christmas present!!!

10-29-2005, 08:02 PM	#22
70 shorty Where's my beer? Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Glen Allen, VA Posts: 1,772	Re: Can you set rolling frame on is side for cleaning/painting ??? My buddy has that exact setup as far as the cars are concerned, not the lift. He has a hot rodded but beautiful conditon 66 convertible and just last week he bought a 97 36000 mile C5. Must be nice is all I have to say. Now as far as the frame goes, I was going to say, well you've got the frame on it's side, the bed on end, so now you've got to put a cab on it's back an take a picture of all 3 peices. __________________ 70 C10, shortstep, .30 over 250,Hurst shifted 3 spd parts hauler. Holley 390, Clifford Intake, Header, ported cylinder head, unknown bigger cam. 79 Corvette L82, 4 spd, black, red interior, headers, flowmasters, and unkown bigger cam. '03 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.0 4x4 daily driver. 165K miles, and runs great '08 Tahoe LTZ 4x4 155K

10-29-2005, 10:21 PM	#23
Green Machine Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Estherville, Iowa Posts: 3,371	Re: Can you set rolling frame on is side for cleaning/painting ??? Got er did, used engine hoist in the center to lift on side, cleaned that side the reversed and lifted the other side, we had the rear end out, so it was pretty light, heres one of my bad pics again....thats my oldest son ,on his knees, running the pressure washer, he's really good at this, he hates dirt and is on a mission to kill it all -lol. Attached Images __________________ 1968 C10 307 3spd Long Fleet ------ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=201103 1970 C10 305 Super T10 Long Fleet --- http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=202285 1971 C20 383 TH350 Dana Posi ----- http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=206894 2001 GMC Sierra 1500 C3 6.0 Last edited by Green Machine; 10-29-2005 at 10:22 PM.

10-29-2005, 10:50 PM	#24
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