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67_SS396 · 04-23-2003, 01:09 AM

I installed a 700R4 and loved the fun I had the three days I had with it.

I know they weren't originally built for high HP engines, but I thought it would last longer than three days.... After about four or five HARD hits on the street, the planetary is trashed. So what shops in the DFW area have reputations of being good at building 700's to handle the power of a BB? I've called about five shops today, only two would touch it and only one would warranty it when I take it to the track, Dave's Racing Automatics in Irving. They quoted me a price of $800 installed and dialed in.

superchevy · 04-23-2003, 08:56 AM

Give Hobarts Performance Trans in Midlothian a call 877-723-9559. They might be able to help you out.

fatfords · 04-23-2003, 09:16 AM

If you're on the west side, you might try Phoenix Transmission Products in Weatherford at 817-599-7680 or www.phoenixtrans.com.

I have seen their ads in the truck magazines and have talked to a couple of F-body guys that highly recommended them, although the $800 installed price will be hard to beat, especially with a warranty!

Good Luck,
Kent

Hutch · 04-23-2003, 09:47 AM

I always use Transmission Headquaters on East lancaster in Fort Worth.
Not the cheapest but very knowledgeable and quick turnaround.

Have Fun

ratrod67 · 04-23-2003, 10:00 AM

I second the Phoenix transmission shop reccomendation. I went through 3 700R4's in my 69 Camaro with a 468 BBC. I went to them and had a 200R built and installed. It gave me ZERO problems and it got beat on pretty hard. They were good guys and reasonably priced.

70 Pickup · 04-23-2003, 11:28 AM

I third Phoenix Transmissions. Friend of mine is running a 450hp 383 through a 700R4, with a 300 shot. Seems to be just fine. He paid a lot more, for his transmission to withstand that much, but they can build you what you need!!

SCOTI · 04-23-2003, 12:09 PM

The guys @ Phoenix said their 700R4 would live behind a 496 w/a Edlebrock RPM top end pkg as long as I didn't bolt up slicks. The quote I got was 16-1700 bucks for everything + upgrades for the tranny cooler.

Scot

smokekiki · 04-23-2003, 01:33 PM

$800 seems kind of low for a 700r rebuild.Especially one for performance.A friend of mine built mine,no charge for labor,and I have over $500 in parts not counting the converter and new trans cooler!

superchevy · 04-23-2003, 02:25 PM

Hey SCOTI, what did Phoenix say about their 200R? The Buick GN guys swear by their built 200R's in those heavy GN's, and the first/second gear RPM drop isn't as severe as with a 700R. I think I'm leaning toward the 200R myself behind my 454. I mean, I might want to bolt on some slicks, you know?

SC

ratrod67 · 04-23-2003, 02:56 PM

I had the 200R and I beat it pretty hard. I was running a 468 and dyno'ed 612 rwhp. I ran slicks a couple times but ran drag radials all the time. I got it installed by Phoenix transmissions so I could get the warranty. I paid $1900.00 and got a complete deal. Tranny, cooler and shifter. I never had to test the warranty and that's why I would reccomend them. I had my old 700R rebuilt 3 times by 2 different shops and still broke it. If you are making good horsepower I'd check out the 200R.

SCOTI · 04-23-2003, 03:54 PM

That's funny . . ... all 4 times I've spoken w/them w/any questions or inquiries, they never mentioned anything about the 200R & I really didn't think to ask.

I have noticed, while looking through my GMHiTechPerf mags, alot of advertisements for 200R's for GN's & late HiPo F-bodies. I never really thought about it but they are similar in weight vs. 67-72's, so I guess the 200R could take the abuse.

Only one way to find out. I'll have to make another call & verify some info.

fatfords · 04-23-2003, 05:09 PM

Another advantage of the 200-4R is it is the same overall length as the TH350, so the length of the driveshaft should not be an issue. I think the mounting point is farther aft, so the crossmember would have to be moved.

Kent

marcuspboldt · 04-23-2003, 05:52 PM

Does the 200-r4 have overdrive?

67_SS396 · 04-23-2003, 06:44 PM

Yes the 200 is an overdrive tranny.

Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. I picked this tranny up for next to nothing then sold some parts which replaced what I spent. So as of now, all I'll have into it is a rebuild. I've spoken to many shops in the last couple days and have narrowed it down to two right now. I still have a couple others to call tomorrow, so we will see how it turns out.

It's great having resources like this board and others that I frequent, to get suggestions and opinions.

Thanks again.

04-23-2003, 01:09 AM	#1
67_SS396 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Blue Ridge, Tx Posts: 1,172	700R4 Died Violently. DFW Tranny shop? I installed a 700R4 and loved the fun I had the three days I had with it. I know they weren't originally built for high HP engines, but I thought it would last longer than three days.... After about four or five HARD hits on the street, the planetary is trashed. So what shops in the DFW area have reputations of being good at building 700's to handle the power of a BB? I've called about five shops today, only two would touch it and only one would warranty it when I take it to the track, Dave's Racing Automatics in Irving. They quoted me a price of $800 installed and dialed in. __________________ Fawker Fab three seater rock crawler buggy 498 BBC/SM465/203/205 doubler, propane, 5.13's, 42" PB Rockers '66 C10 - The new hot rod '77 3+3 Dually - 12 valve 4wd conversion tow rig project '28 Ford 2 door sedan street rod RevLimit Offroad "Hang on beer, we can do this." Last edited by 67_SS396; 04-23-2003 at 01:19 AM.

04-23-2003, 08:56 AM	#2
superchevy Got big-block? Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 2,453	Give Hobarts Performance Trans in Midlothian a call 877-723-9559. They might be able to help you out. __________________ '68 CST SWB factory 396/T400 buddy buckets, a/c, ps, pb '72 Corvette convertible 454/4spd/ac, ps, pb '73 GMC Sierra Grande short wide 454/T400 ps, pb, ac '77 K5 Blazer black on red, 350/T350/NP205 ps, pb, ac all original '78 GMC Sierra Classic short wide 454/T400 ps, pb, ac '72 GMC Sprint SP454. 1 of 38 built. '73 GMC Sprint SP454. 1 of 71 built. '75 GMC Sprint SP454. 1 of 25 built. SOLD! '72 GMC K25 4x4 468/4L80e/NP205 build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...23#post4324423 SOLD!'55 Chevy gasser 496/4spd build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...96#post4324396

04-23-2003, 09:16 AM	#3
fatfords Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 350	If you're on the west side, you might try Phoenix Transmission Products in Weatherford at 817-599-7680 or www.phoenixtrans.com. I have seen their ads in the truck magazines and have talked to a couple of F-body guys that highly recommended them, although the $800 installed price will be hard to beat, especially with a warranty! Good Luck, Kent __________________ '56 F-100 (w/all GM stuff) Lookin' for another parts chaser! '05 GMC crew cab

04-23-2003, 09:47 AM	#4
Hutch Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Grapevine, Tx. Posts: 2,142	I always use Transmission Headquaters on East lancaster in Fort Worth. Not the cheapest but very knowledgeable and quick turnaround. Have Fun __________________ John Hutchison Grapevine,Texas 68 1/2 t swb 68 Mustang 69 Jaguar 71 1/2 t swb 88 Supra CompTs6m 93 Escort GT 2005 Corolla XRS

04-23-2003, 12:09 PM	#7
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,037	The guys @ Phoenix said their 700R4 would live behind a 496 w/a Edlebrock RPM top end pkg as long as I didn't bolt up slicks. The quote I got was 16-1700 bucks for everything + upgrades for the tranny cooler. Scot __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

04-23-2003, 10:00 AM	#5
ratrod67 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 2,270	I second the Phoenix transmission shop reccomendation. I went through 3 700R4's in my 69 Camaro with a 468 BBC. I went to them and had a 200R built and installed. It gave me ZERO problems and it got beat on pretty hard. They were good guys and reasonably priced.

04-23-2003, 11:28 AM	#6
70 Pickup Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 22	I third Phoenix Transmissions. Friend of mine is running a 450hp 383 through a 700R4, with a 300 shot. Seems to be just fine. He paid a lot more, for his transmission to withstand that much, but they can build you what you need!!

04-23-2003, 01:33 PM	#8
smokekiki Mike Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: west chester pa Posts: 2,474	$800 seems kind of low for a 700r rebuild.Especially one for performance.A friend of mine built mine,no charge for labor,and I have over $500 in parts not counting the converter and new trans cooler! __________________ 70'c/10, 71 suburban4x4 402bb, 72suburban 4/6 drop, 72k/5 4x4 blazer 4" lift 35 tires

04-23-2003, 02:25 PM	#9
superchevy Got big-block? Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 2,453	Hey SCOTI, what did Phoenix say about their 200R? The Buick GN guys swear by their built 200R's in those heavy GN's, and the first/second gear RPM drop isn't as severe as with a 700R. I think I'm leaning toward the 200R myself behind my 454. I mean, I might want to bolt on some slicks, you know? SC __________________ '68 CST SWB factory 396/T400 buddy buckets, a/c, ps, pb '72 Corvette convertible 454/4spd/ac, ps, pb '73 GMC Sierra Grande short wide 454/T400 ps, pb, ac '77 K5 Blazer black on red, 350/T350/NP205 ps, pb, ac all original '78 GMC Sierra Classic short wide 454/T400 ps, pb, ac '72 GMC Sprint SP454. 1 of 38 built. '73 GMC Sprint SP454. 1 of 71 built. '75 GMC Sprint SP454. 1 of 25 built. SOLD! '72 GMC K25 4x4 468/4L80e/NP205 build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...23#post4324423 SOLD!'55 Chevy gasser 496/4spd build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...96#post4324396

04-23-2003, 02:56 PM	#10
ratrod67 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 2,270	I had the 200R and I beat it pretty hard. I was running a 468 and dyno'ed 612 rwhp. I ran slicks a couple times but ran drag radials all the time. I got it installed by Phoenix transmissions so I could get the warranty. I paid $1900.00 and got a complete deal. Tranny, cooler and shifter. I never had to test the warranty and that's why I would reccomend them. I had my old 700R rebuilt 3 times by 2 different shops and still broke it. If you are making good horsepower I'd check out the 200R.

04-23-2003, 03:54 PM	#11
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,037	That's funny . . ... all 4 times I've spoken w/them w/any questions or inquiries, they never mentioned anything about the 200R & I really didn't think to ask. I have noticed, while looking through my GMHiTechPerf mags, alot of advertisements for 200R's for GN's & late HiPo F-bodies. I never really thought about it but they are similar in weight vs. 67-72's, so I guess the 200R could take the abuse. Only one way to find out. I'll have to make another call & verify some info. __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

04-23-2003, 05:09 PM	#12
fatfords Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 350	Another advantage of the 200-4R is it is the same overall length as the TH350, so the length of the driveshaft should not be an issue. I think the mounting point is farther aft, so the crossmember would have to be moved. Kent __________________ '56 F-100 (w/all GM stuff) Lookin' for another parts chaser! '05 GMC crew cab

04-23-2003, 05:52 PM	#13
marcuspboldt Registered Abuser Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ft.Worth Texas Posts: 1,001	Does the 200-r4 have overdrive?

04-23-2003, 06:44 PM	#14
67_SS396 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Blue Ridge, Tx Posts: 1,172	Yes the 200 is an overdrive tranny. Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. I picked this tranny up for next to nothing then sold some parts which replaced what I spent. So as of now, all I'll have into it is a rebuild. I've spoken to many shops in the last couple days and have narrowed it down to two right now. I still have a couple others to call tomorrow, so we will see how it turns out. It's great having resources like this board and others that I frequent, to get suggestions and opinions. Thanks again.



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