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Stubborn oil filter
Just did the first oil change on the 71. The oil filter did not want to budge. I destroyed my belt type filter wrench and almost folded the filter in half doing it.
After applying (long) screwdriver and hammer, and peeling some of the case back) it started to yield. Pics to follow (as soon as I figure out how). What causes the filter to "stick" to the engine? |
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Re: Stubborn oil filter
Been there, done that. What causes the filter to "stick" to the engine? Two things usually. Dry application and over tightening.
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Re: Stubborn oil filter
What GRX said... and also (not sure if this is from a recent rebuild) if you painted the sealing surface on the block.
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Re: Stubborn oil filter
I've had that happen a few times on different vehicles. If it doesn't budge after a few minutes of turning by hand, it gets the clamps! (squeeze & turn the filter with big clamps)
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Re: Stubborn oil filter
Hey DRGunn,
Since you are a neighbor, come over and borrow my '460's'.....Never met a filter they couldn't take off.... ![]()
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Re: Stubborn oil filter
I have several pairs but the filter is tucked away in what appears to be difficult at best to get to the filter.
But the ball peen and (long) screwdriver succeeded in freeing it up. I'm up by Standley lake (N. side). Just obtained this truck. |
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Re: Stubborn oil filter
I'm about 64th and Sheridan. Got any pictures of the truck to show all of us?
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Re: Stubborn oil filter
What they said. The filter will tighten itself (don't ask me why, but they always do) so when you install it, after wiping the engine mounting surface clean and lightly oiling the filter gasket, just snug the new filter by hand only.
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Re: Stubborn oil filter
A little rough but still has the push button radio...
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Re: Stubborn oil filter
She looks good to me.
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Re: Stubborn oil filter
Jiffy Lube, WalMart Auto Service, any quick-change oil place. Most filter manufacturers recommend lubing the gasket with fresh oil and then spinning it on and tightening it 1/4 turn after the gasket contacts the mounting surface. The guys who work at those places tend to crank the filters down tight because they think they'll leak if they don't.
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Re: Stubborn oil filter
I've had the same problem on my '67 a couple of times...put fresh oil on the new filter gasket, tightened it 1/4 turn by hand after it made contact with the block, and then destroyed it a few months later trying to get it off...
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Re: Stubborn oil filter
A few years back I helped a buddy swap a Ram jet 350 into his 68 stepside. It came from gm with filter installed. He ran it through the break in procedure as they specified, but when he went to change the oil he couldn't get the filter off. We tried the old screwdriver through the side trick. We got all of the canister shredded but it still wouldn't budge. He ended up with nothing but the steel ring left and had to use a chisel to get that off. He called gm and they said "oh, we've had a few people call and tell us the same thing." Gee thanks. Nothing like spending a day beating on a filter, risking shredding your hands on razor sharp metal, only to be told, basically, "yea, we know, but decided not to tell anyone or do anything but keep selling them as is.l
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Rather a fan of the socket type tool, provided there is space.
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Re: Stubborn oil filter
on my big block i had the trans mount bolts go through the oil filter mount and locked it in. after shredding the filter we found the bolt holding it on.
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Re: Stubborn oil filter
big blocks have a trans bolt that goes through the oil filter mount. too long a bolt will lock the filter down
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Re: Stubborn oil filter
Huh... Thats a new one on me. Ive had more sbc than i can count, but only recently acquired a 454 for my 79 malibu. I also have a 70 Longhorn with a big block 400. My dad had an 80 GMC c30 that had a 350 when he bought it. We swapped it for a 72 454. Never had an issue, but then again we never did any trans swaps after that.
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Re: Stubborn oil filter
That looked like my filter on my Honda last time I changed it. Those things welded on there!
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