72 K20 build thread, need good name - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

Rust Buster · 05-03-2007, 09:21 PM

Hi everyone. I've been a member on this site for a couple of years now but recently changed my username (used to be Madbomber88). I have a 72 K20 and a 71 K5.

I'm finally biting the bullet and jumping in with both feet on a frame off restoration/modification of the K20. It began tonight!

This will be a long and most likely slow process, but here's my original intent (subject to change due to budget constraints of course).

Goal is a stockish looking 72 on the outside with the technology on the inside to be a 100% reliable daily driver.
- New GM PP 383 mated to some TBD Fuel Injection
- NV4500 conversion
- Trying to keep the same basic color scheme but am open to all ideas (please!)
- Relocate fuel tank to under bed
- Update interior for comfort and convenience
- The rest is up in the air, but basically take everything apart, clean, paint, protect and put back together
- Keeping the new 14B FF with limited slip in the rear and the newly rebuilt D44 in front (both are 3.42s)

Wish me luck, and I'll do my best to post everything I do, and I welcome any and all comments, both the good, bad and the ugly.
-Tim

Before pics...

Rust Buster · 05-03-2007, 09:23 PM

Ok, now the first actual build post (although not much)
Shut off the engine for the last time, and put her up on those wheel dollies.
The garage is relatively small, and this will allow me to push it agains the wall when I need the room. So far so good, but it takes alot of force to push her around, alot more so than advertised.
Anyone have a good name for this build?

JAKES 68GMC · 05-03-2007, 09:32 PM

Looks like a nice project! I have 3 questions though, what size tires are those, and what kind of rims are those/ what did they come off of or where did you get them? they look cool, almost like a Chrysler rallye-style wheel.

Rust Buster · 05-03-2007, 09:35 PM

The tires are 285/75/16s on the original rims that came with the truck. I've never thought about them before, I always thought they were just the originals. You think they may not be? Haven't decided if I will keep them or not...

Rust Buster · 05-03-2007, 09:35 PM

Jake,
whereabouts in Maine are you? I have family in both Portland (he owns a chevy dealership), and Kennebunk

**LockDoc** · 05-03-2007, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAKES 68GMC

Looks like a nice project! I have 3 questions though, what size tires are those, and what kind of rims are those/ what did they come off of or where did you get them? they look cool, almost like a Chrysler rallye-style wheel.

Jake: Here is a pic of the Chrysler Rallye. I have them on my '39 Ford.

LockDoc

1969k10stepside · 05-03-2007, 09:44 PM

Well,they arent the stock rims for the era,thats for sure.Nice Project.I remember when mine went on the dollies so it could be moved around,now the tires are too wide for them...

**special-K** · 05-03-2007, 09:47 PM

Ahhhh yup,got people in Bideford Pool,right between them the two,I do.Those are Dodge wheels,like-em.
Cheyenne K.How`s that?

JAKES 68GMC · 05-03-2007, 09:48 PM

No, those aren't original 1972 rims, they look damned cool IMO though. I'm about 3 hours up from Sanford, on the coast. (don't want to give out my town name, people will start stalking me.

j/k)

Those are Dodge rims, Tim?

Bus Ted Knuckle · 05-03-2007, 09:59 PM

this is the only type of wheel I have ever known to be called a Chrysler Rallye. Those on the 39 ford look like a Chevy rally to me

The truck wheels do look like the Chry wheels...I love em.

I love the truck by the way!
Totally awesome

**LockDoc** · 05-04-2007, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bus Ted Knuckle

Those on the 39 ford look like a Chevy rally to me

Nope, they are off of a 1976 Chrysler Cordoba and are a 5" x 4 1/2" bolt pattern (Ford 9" rear)

LockDoc

msgross · 05-03-2007, 10:03 PM

nice truck... I like the original looking paint, what size tires are those?

Rust Buster · 05-03-2007, 10:18 PM

Mike, they're 285/75/16s. I like the height of them but I wish they were a bit wider to get the stance right.

JAKES 68GMC · 05-03-2007, 10:06 PM

They look a little like what Bus Ted Knuckle posted. They have a similar resemblence anyway.

msgross · 05-03-2007, 10:24 PM

285/75/16 (32.9x10.3)

Those are the same size as mine, backspacing helps a little but my truck is a SWB so they fit a little better... Yours don't look bad ...

**special-K** · 05-03-2007, 10:25 PM

You could mount the 285s on 8" rims to get your results.

msgross · 05-03-2007, 10:26 PM

mine are one 15x8's they are 33" x 10.5"

*72CSTC5* · 05-03-2007, 11:43 PM

Is that supposed to be an 8 lug truck? "Project long wait 4x4"

Rust Buster · 05-04-2007, 07:40 AM

Yes, it's an 8 lug from the factory. I bought it from a farmer in TN and it had been mainly used on the farm its whole life. It had the Eaton HO52 when I got it and gears that were way too tall. I couldn't even drive the thing on the highway, so I got a new 14bolt FF with an eaton limited slip and 3.42s. I love it. Still have the eaton and it is in great shape with a locker if anytone is interested

**special-K** · 05-04-2007, 09:18 AM

You mean the gears were too low,right.Tall gears are high gears as in a lower ratio/lower numbers.
I`m interested in the rear.I`m having problems with a locker and parts are...tough.Do you know the ratio?Let me know about it.thanks.

Rust Buster · 05-04-2007, 09:32 AM

Pretty sure the gears were 4:10s

**special-K** · 05-04-2007, 02:04 PM

Mopar had an almost identical rim to the truck rallyes and they had chrome centers.Truck 8-lugs are in another class and those are Dodge.
4.10 would suit me fine.That`s what my rear is,so no set-up would be required.Send me a message if you`d like to get rid of that.

Spanky_Pete · 05-04-2007, 02:23 PM

Hugger Orange and White is the best color combo GM used, imo. That's going to be a great build, cannot wait to see more.

Those dollies are great, but not nearly as simple to move around as they make you think. It takes two of us to move my Dad's '69 AMC AMX around on them.

tavenner13 · 05-04-2007, 04:14 PM

since this will be your last project as a single man how about project "The Last Bachelor" or maybe "Project Ball & Chain"

or using a theme relating to the truck how about project... "Citrus Resurrection", "Orange & White Dine-O-Mite", or "K20 Too Tho'ed" lol. just a little brain storming

kxnomore · 05-04-2007, 06:33 PM

do you know the width of the rim that's on there now? I like the look. Nice truck by the way. Great ideas on the new parts too.

05-03-2007, 09:21 PM	#1
Rust Buster Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 547	72 K20 build thread, Major Update Hi everyone. I've been a member on this site for a couple of years now but recently changed my username (used to be Madbomber88). I have a 72 K20 and a 71 K5. I'm finally biting the bullet and jumping in with both feet on a frame off restoration/modification of the K20. It began tonight! This will be a long and most likely slow process, but here's my original intent (subject to change due to budget constraints of course). Goal is a stockish looking 72 on the outside with the technology on the inside to be a 100% reliable daily driver. - New GM PP 383 mated to some TBD Fuel Injection - NV4500 conversion - Trying to keep the same basic color scheme but am open to all ideas (please!) - Relocate fuel tank to under bed - Update interior for comfort and convenience - The rest is up in the air, but basically take everything apart, clean, paint, protect and put back together - Keeping the new 14B FF with limited slip in the rear and the newly rebuilt D44 in front (both are 3.42s) Wish me luck, and I'll do my best to post everything I do, and I welcome any and all comments, both the good, bad and the ugly. -Tim Before pics... Attached Images __________________ Maj USAF 71 K5 Blazer CST 72 K20 HT383 NV4500 Mass-Flo EFI 71 K10 LWB 52 Dodge Power Wagon 67 Dodge WM300 Power Wagon 48 Dodge WDX Power Wagon My Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=239487 Last edited by Rust Buster; 06-27-2014 at 12:31 PM. Reason: Error

05-03-2007, 09:23 PM	#2
Rust Buster Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 547	Re: 72 K20 build thread, need good name Ok, now the first actual build post (although not much) Shut off the engine for the last time, and put her up on those wheel dollies. The garage is relatively small, and this will allow me to push it agains the wall when I need the room. So far so good, but it takes alot of force to push her around, alot more so than advertised. Anyone have a good name for this build? Attached Images __________________ Maj USAF 71 K5 Blazer CST 72 K20 HT383 NV4500 Mass-Flo EFI 71 K10 LWB 52 Dodge Power Wagon 67 Dodge WM300 Power Wagon 48 Dodge WDX Power Wagon My Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=239487

05-03-2007, 09:32 PM	#3
JAKES 68GMC Aluminum slot wheels rule... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Maine Posts: 6,212	Re: 72 K20 build thread, need good name Looks like a nice project! I have 3 questions though, what size tires are those, and what kind of rims are those/ what did they come off of or where did you get them? they look cool, almost like a Chrysler rallye-style wheel.

05-03-2007, 09:35 PM	#4
Rust Buster Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 547	Re: 72 K20 build thread, need good name The tires are 285/75/16s on the original rims that came with the truck. I've never thought about them before, I always thought they were just the originals. You think they may not be? Haven't decided if I will keep them or not... __________________ Maj USAF 71 K5 Blazer CST 72 K20 HT383 NV4500 Mass-Flo EFI 71 K10 LWB 52 Dodge Power Wagon 67 Dodge WM300 Power Wagon 48 Dodge WDX Power Wagon My Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=239487

05-03-2007, 09:35 PM	#5
Rust Buster Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 547	Re: 72 K20 build thread, need good name Jake, whereabouts in Maine are you? I have family in both Portland (he owns a chevy dealership), and Kennebunk __________________ Maj USAF 71 K5 Blazer CST 72 K20 HT383 NV4500 Mass-Flo EFI 71 K10 LWB 52 Dodge Power Wagon 67 Dodge WM300 Power Wagon 48 Dodge WDX Power Wagon My Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=239487 Last edited by Rust Buster; 04-19-2008 at 03:45 AM. Reason: error

05-03-2007, 09:44 PM	#7
1969k10stepside Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: USA Posts: 21,020	Re: 72 K20 build thread, need good name Well,they arent the stock rims for the era,thats for sure.Nice Project.I remember when mine went on the dollies so it could be moved around,now the tires are too wide for them...

05-03-2007, 09:47 PM	#8
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,852	Re: 72 K20 build thread, need good name Ahhhh yup,got people in Bideford Pool,right between them the two,I do.Those are Dodge wheels,like-em. Cheyenne K.How`s that? __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

05-03-2007, 09:48 PM	#9
JAKES 68GMC Aluminum slot wheels rule... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Maine Posts: 6,212	Re: 72 K20 build thread, need good name No, those aren't original 1972 rims, they look damned cool IMO though. I'm about 3 hours up from Sanford, on the coast. (don't want to give out my town name, people will start stalking me. j/k) Those are Dodge rims, Tim? Last edited by JAKES 68GMC; 05-03-2007 at 09:49 PM.

05-03-2007, 09:59 PM	#10
Bus Ted Knuckle Son of a gun Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hot Springs, Arkansas Posts: 1,636	Re: 72 K20 build thread, need good name this is the only type of wheel I have ever known to be called a Chrysler Rallye. Those on the 39 ford look like a Chevy rally to me The truck wheels do look like the Chry wheels...I love em. I love the truck by the way! Totally awesome Attached Images __________________ Bill BEATERS ARE NEATER Last edited by Bus Ted Knuckle; 05-03-2007 at 10:40 PM.

05-03-2007, 10:03 PM	#12
msgross Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central PA Posts: 12,201	Re: 72 K20 build thread, need good name nice truck... I like the original looking paint, what size tires are those? __________________ The Garage: 1968 K-10 SWB - "Project Money Pit" 1996 Z-71 - "huntin rig" 1969 C-10 LWB (SOLD) "Project flip that truck or else" 1993 Passport, F@rd 1-ton (SOLD)"Project Cousin Eddie" My Garage Build "The 1,000 footer"

05-03-2007, 10:18 PM	#13
Rust Buster Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 547	Re: 72 K20 build thread, need good name Mike, they're 285/75/16s. I like the height of them but I wish they were a bit wider to get the stance right. __________________ Maj USAF 71 K5 Blazer CST 72 K20 HT383 NV4500 Mass-Flo EFI 71 K10 LWB 52 Dodge Power Wagon 67 Dodge WM300 Power Wagon 48 Dodge WDX Power Wagon My Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=239487

05-03-2007, 10:06 PM	#14
JAKES 68GMC Aluminum slot wheels rule... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Maine Posts: 6,212	Re: 72 K20 build thread, need good name They look a little like what Bus Ted Knuckle posted. They have a similar resemblence anyway.

05-03-2007, 10:24 PM	#15
msgross Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central PA Posts: 12,201	Re: 72 K20 build thread, need good name 285/75/16 (32.9x10.3) Those are the same size as mine, backspacing helps a little but my truck is a SWB so they fit a little better... Yours don't look bad ... __________________ The Garage: 1968 K-10 SWB - "Project Money Pit" 1996 Z-71 - "huntin rig" 1969 C-10 LWB (SOLD) "Project flip that truck or else" 1993 Passport, F@rd 1-ton (SOLD)"Project Cousin Eddie" My Garage Build "The 1,000 footer" Last edited by msgross; 05-03-2007 at 10:24 PM.

05-03-2007, 10:25 PM	#16
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,852	Re: 72 K20 build thread, need good name You could mount the 285s on 8" rims to get your results. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

05-03-2007, 10:26 PM	#17
msgross Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central PA Posts: 12,201	Re: 72 K20 build thread, need good name mine are one 15x8's they are 33" x 10.5" __________________ The Garage: 1968 K-10 SWB - "Project Money Pit" 1996 Z-71 - "huntin rig" 1969 C-10 LWB (SOLD) "Project flip that truck or else" 1993 Passport, F@rd 1-ton (SOLD)"Project Cousin Eddie" My Garage Build "The 1,000 footer"



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05-03-2007, 11:43 PM	#18
72CSTC5 Account Suspended Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Deer Park, Tx. Posts: 2,524	Re: 72 K20 build thread, need good name Is that supposed to be an 8 lug truck? "Project long wait 4x4"

05-04-2007, 07:40 AM	#19
Rust Buster Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 547	Re: 72 K20 build thread, need good name Yes, it's an 8 lug from the factory. I bought it from a farmer in TN and it had been mainly used on the farm its whole life. It had the Eaton HO52 when I got it and gears that were way too tall. I couldn't even drive the thing on the highway, so I got a new 14bolt FF with an eaton limited slip and 3.42s. I love it. Still have the eaton and it is in great shape with a locker if anytone is interested __________________ Maj USAF 71 K5 Blazer CST 72 K20 HT383 NV4500 Mass-Flo EFI 71 K10 LWB 52 Dodge Power Wagon 67 Dodge WM300 Power Wagon 48 Dodge WDX Power Wagon My Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=239487

05-04-2007, 09:18 AM	#20
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,852	Re: 72 K20 build thread, need good name You mean the gears were too low,right.Tall gears are high gears as in a lower ratio/lower numbers. I`m interested in the rear.I`m having problems with a locker and parts are...tough.Do you know the ratio?Let me know about it.thanks. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

05-04-2007, 09:32 AM	#21
Rust Buster Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 547	Re: 72 K20 build thread, need good name Pretty sure the gears were 4:10s __________________ Maj USAF 71 K5 Blazer CST 72 K20 HT383 NV4500 Mass-Flo EFI 71 K10 LWB 52 Dodge Power Wagon 67 Dodge WM300 Power Wagon 48 Dodge WDX Power Wagon My Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=239487

05-04-2007, 02:04 PM	#22
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,852	Re: 72 K20 build thread, need good name Mopar had an almost identical rim to the truck rallyes and they had chrome centers.Truck 8-lugs are in another class and those are Dodge. 4.10 would suit me fine.That`s what my rear is,so no set-up would be required.Send me a message if you`d like to get rid of that. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~ Last edited by special-K; 05-04-2007 at 02:06 PM.

05-04-2007, 02:23 PM	#23
Spanky_Pete Too many trucks? Nah... Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SW Washington State Posts: 154	Re: 72 K20 build thread, need good name Hugger Orange and White is the best color combo GM used, imo. That's going to be a great build, cannot wait to see more. Those dollies are great, but not nearly as simple to move around as they make you think. It takes two of us to move my Dad's '69 AMC AMX around on them.

05-04-2007, 04:14 PM	#24
tavenner13 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tyler, Texas Posts: 559	Re: 72 K20 build thread, need good name since this will be your last project as a single man how about project "The Last Bachelor" or maybe "Project Ball & Chain" or using a theme relating to the truck how about project... "Citrus Resurrection", "Orange & White Dine-O-Mite", or "K20 Too Tho'ed" lol. just a little brain storming

05-04-2007, 06:33 PM	#25
kxnomore Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CA Posts: 331	Re: 72 K20 build thread, need good name do you know the width of the rim that's on there now? I like the look. Nice truck by the way. Great ideas on the new parts too.

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