The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1973 - 1987 Chevrolet & GMC Squarebody Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-10-2011, 07:38 PM   #1
tucsonjwt
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 3,188
Door hard to close - any ideas?

I just replaced the bushings and pins in the driver's door of my 83 C20. I previously replaced the rubber door seal and the striker bolt. The door has a nice even reveal all around the opening, the mid door line is even with the corresponding line on the box, the hinges were reinstalled in exactly the original position. The door is now snug with no drop/play vertically, but it still requires a good hard slam to get it to close completely.

The flaps behind the vent in the bottom of the door are clear, so I don't think it is a cabin pressure issue. However, when I leave the passenger door open the driver's door is easier to close - probably not perfect but much better than with the passenger door closed.
Does anyone else have this issue or have any ideas on how to fix it?
tucsonjwt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2011, 07:48 PM   #2
HTX86chevy
Registered User
 
HTX86chevy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Houston, Tx
Posts: 349
Re: Door hard to close - any ideas?

same prob w/ mine, however with the window down it shuts smoothly. try it.
__________________
HTX86chevy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2011, 08:24 PM   #3
tucsonjwt
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 3,188
Re: Door hard to close - any ideas?

Just tried with the window rolled down - same as you - closes much better. What gives? Is it a southwest USA thing? Must be some kind of cabin pressure thing, but why don't all squares do this?
tucsonjwt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2011, 08:39 PM   #4
76stepsidechevy
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Windsor Locks
Posts: 628
Re: Door hard to close - any ideas?

Mine does it too
76stepsidechevy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2011, 08:40 PM   #5
broey
Square
 
broey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Phoenix Arizona
Posts: 1,568
Re: Door hard to close - any ideas?

mine is the same way. Its gotta be air not being able to escape.
__________________
Squarebody Syndicate
broey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2011, 08:45 PM   #6
tucsonjwt
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 3,188
Re: Door hard to close - any ideas?

Is there a factory TSB on this issue?
Come to think of it, I never had this problem with my Michigan original 73 with rust in the cab corners.
tucsonjwt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2011, 10:17 PM   #7
Your41Plague12
Registered User
 
Your41Plague12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 1,009
Re: Door hard to close - any ideas?

Mine is difficult to close with the windows up or down, doesn't matter at all. You have to grab the door handle and act like you're punching something. The way I look at it is, it's an old truck. It could have much worse issues. I'd still like to fix it though because it bothers me
__________________
Steve
Member of the Foot Pedal Club
'83 Chevy K20: 6" Rough Country, 3" Performance Accessories BL,
Bushwacker Cutouts, 38x15.50 Mickey Thompson Baja Claws,
350 HP 350 crate engine from Jegs, Turbo 400
Your41Plague12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2011, 10:22 PM   #8
lilpoindexter
Registered User
 
lilpoindexter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: los angeles
Posts: 1,132
Re: Door hard to close - any ideas?

yep...mine wont close either with the new seals...you got to sneak up on it
lilpoindexter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2011, 10:41 PM   #9
tucsonjwt
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 3,188
Re: Door hard to close - any ideas?

Mine did start closing hard after I installed the new door seals. I did use Taiwanese aftermarket seals, so maybe OEM would be better?
tucsonjwt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2011, 10:49 PM   #10
makman1297
Registered User
 
makman1297's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Beaufort SC
Posts: 583
Re: Door hard to close - any ideas?

Mine was the same way after i put new seals in from clasic chevy. I decided the lube the door seals with some 2 stroke oil, nice and lighly rubbed the seals all around and then it was fairly easy to close.
makman1297 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2011, 11:06 PM   #11
vegas80step
Registered User
 
vegas80step's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 329
Re: Door hard to close - any ideas?

i just got my truck and have to slam the door like it still my wallet...
I chalked it up to the door poppers... but looks like it may not be just that...
vegas80step is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2011, 12:50 PM   #12
njlimbaugh
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: LaFayette GA
Posts: 111
Re: Door hard to close - any ideas?

Sometimes, after putting in new seals, you have to readjust the striker pin. As the rubber breaks down, a lot of folks (me included) will move the pin in a little at a time to keep the door from rattling. The new rubber is thicker, so it has to be compressed more to catch the latch. Try moving the pin out a little.
njlimbaugh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2011, 10:23 AM   #13
vtwinsport
Registered User
 
vtwinsport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: edmonton, alberta
Posts: 293
Re: Door hard to close - any ideas?

Quote:
Originally Posted by njlimbaugh View Post
Sometimes, after putting in new seals, you have to readjust the striker pin. As the rubber breaks down, a lot of folks (me included) will move the pin in a little at a time to keep the door from rattling. The new rubber is thicker, so it has to be compressed more to catch the latch. Try moving the pin out a little.
Yep, same issue for me and moving striker pins out resolved it. Now I have to change the door seals as rain will drip in the top of the door
__________________

76 Silverado, 2wd, long box, 350/th350, 3.42 posi, edelbrock performer 64cc heads, edelbrock 1405, 2101 intake, Hedman Headers, Comp Cam XE262
http://beerbreadbike.wordpress.com/
vtwinsport is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2011, 01:18 PM   #14
BULLITT '84
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Bothell,WA
Posts: 7
Re: Door hard to close - any ideas?

slam it!!
BULLITT '84 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2011, 03:24 PM   #15
tucsonjwt
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 3,188
Re: Door hard to close - any ideas?

So far I have tried moving the striker pin out, in, up, down, and it does not seem to make any difference - but what you say makes sense, so I will try the outward movement again. When I move the striker pin outward, then the door projects past the cab, which does not seem right to me. I think a lot has to do with the aftermarket door seal being poorly designed.
tucsonjwt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2011, 03:38 PM   #16
Low84
Registered User
 
Low84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Roma,TX
Posts: 774
Re: Door hard to close - any ideas?

I had the same issue with my 84, very hard to close from the door handle. I figured out, it's A LOT easier to close the door from the window post (the one facing the back of the cab obviously) call me crazy, but it works!
Low84 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2011, 04:04 AM   #17
INSIDIOUS '86
Registered User
 
INSIDIOUS '86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: washington
Posts: 4,178
Re: Door hard to close - any ideas?

Quote:
Originally Posted by BULLITT '84 View Post
slam it!!
lol mine close like butter maybe lube the lock mechanism an roller on the stryker as well as wait for new seal to take shape
__________________
377 sbc thumpr cam autogear m23 muncie 3:73 Detroit trutrac
3''spintech prostreet mufflers xpipe 1 3/4 headers
build thread !http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=577217
Iroc gauge threadhttp://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=554511
INSIDIOUS '86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2011, 09:32 AM   #18
1LowToy
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Sonora California
Posts: 860
Re: Door hard to close - any ideas?

Try this. Open the vents or put your AC on vent. Never really thought about it for mine cause I didn't think my truck was that air tight.
1LowToy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2011, 09:09 PM   #19
oldschool18
Registered User
 
oldschool18's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Hollidaysburg, PA
Posts: 785
Re: Door hard to close - any ideas?

i put new seal on my truck over a year ago and the driver door shuts better now but pass door is still really hard to shut i think the new seals just need to break in
oldschool18 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2011, 09:20 PM   #20
tucsonjwt
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 3,188
Re: Door hard to close - any ideas?

Lube anywhere and everywhere does not help my door. Adjustments of any kind don't help either. It must be the cheap Taiwanese seal is too thick and not flexible enough. If I ever get my truck put back together I might get some of those softseals.
tucsonjwt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2011, 06:14 PM   #21
maskale
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Houston, Tx
Posts: 159
Re: Door hard to close - any ideas?

same issue with mine, when its on the 'first latch' of the door, (hope that made sense) Its already pushing on the seals. When its completely closed the seals are really smashed.

So seal issue here also. They were replaced by previous owner, so dont know what brand they are. Hey, no air or water leaks at least.
maskale is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2011, 10:28 AM   #22
Dunenutt
Newbee
 
Dunenutt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Posts: 1,406
Re: Door hard to close - any ideas?

Try these! You wont be sorry...

http://www.soffseal.com/store/main.aspx
Dunenutt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2011, 11:42 AM   #23
vtwinsport
Registered User
 
vtwinsport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: edmonton, alberta
Posts: 293
Re: Door hard to close - any ideas?

thanks for the link.
__________________

76 Silverado, 2wd, long box, 350/th350, 3.42 posi, edelbrock performer 64cc heads, edelbrock 1405, 2101 intake, Hedman Headers, Comp Cam XE262
http://beerbreadbike.wordpress.com/
vtwinsport is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2011, 11:06 PM   #24
simonzelotes
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Posts: 14
Re: Door hard to close - any ideas?

I know my bushing is bad on my driver's door, but I think the main culprit to having to slam the door is probably the door seal...Old F!@#ds had the same problem...Didn't matter who the supplier was,...if you installed new door seals, prepare to do some door slammin'....What sucks, is when you've been used to getting in and out of your truck like that, and then you go for a ride with a friend in his/her new truck or car and you practically bust all the windows slamming the door when you get in...I've angered a few of my friends yhat way...
simonzelotes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2011, 10:15 AM   #25
Dunenutt
Newbee
 
Dunenutt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Posts: 1,406
Re: Door hard to close - any ideas?

On my 69, I thought I was going to break the glass. Left them shut for 2 weeks, they did'nt soften up at all. Ripped them out and installed softseals, within a day they were closing like a new truck.
Dunenutt is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:23 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com