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canister vs. screw on oil filter
here's another stupid question guys and gals...went to Napa today to grab an oil filter, my truck has a 350 with the canister type oil filter. the guy looked up '69 GMC in the filters manual, and it gave the PN for a screw on oil filter. I just had him get the PN for a '68 GMC, since it was the canister type. My question is this, when exactly did they stop using the canister type oil filter? Last time I went to the same Napa, the store owner looked up '69 GMC, and went and grabbed a canister filter off the shelf. One of the parts store regulars (those old guys that are always standing around in there) said that my engine "had to be from a '63 or earlier car or truck" because that is when they stopped using canisters, but I think he's wrong. Maybe I should just check Mortec, to see if I really do have a 350 and not something else, that would be indicated by the canister oil filter. Phew, sorry for the length, any info would be appreciated.
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My 68 Chevy 327 was a cannister type. (I Want to go back to cannister someday) I don't remember where I heard this but I think that many chevy cars went to spin-on around 68. The trucks stayed with cannister until around 69-70? That's my understanding though it's not based on hard facts.
![]() Perhaps you could make the assumption that MOST small journal small blocks were cannister type and MOST large journal small blocks were spin-on. The exception would be trucks which carried through a couple of years later with the cannister.
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![]() I'VE HAD EVERY YEAR (67-72) & EVERY ONE HAS HAD A SPIN-ON OIL FILTER, BUT SINCE I DIDN'T BUY ANY OF THEM NEW, I CAN'T SWEAR THEY CAME FROM G.M. THAT WAY. ![]() ![]()
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the 67chevy overhaul manual shows a spin-on type filter
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My 67 was canister, just converted it to spin-on.
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From everythign I've seen, almost all V8 trucks from 67-69 had teh cannister type. The striaght sixes had spin ons, some mid to late 69 V8s may have had spin ons also.
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thanks for the responses guys, keep em comin
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I had a 1969 Chevy truck that had a 396 engine with a cannister type and another 1969 Chevy truck that had a 307 engine with a cannister type.
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One of my friends had a '67 C10 with an original 283....and a cannister oil filter.
I would run your numbers 1969 GMC....at least get the suffix code (2-3 letter code on a machined pad on the block infront of the passenger side cylinder head), and run them at www.nastyz28.com . Mortec.com dosent' have the suffix codes anywhere that i could find on their website.
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Lucas...where exactly is this pad? Can I see it with the engine in the truck and the manifolds on? I looked but couldn't find anything.
Palallin-i guess it just depended on what the assembly plants had sitting on the shelf. In '69 they were supposed to switch to the 205 but not all did.
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Here ya go Adam....i circled the pad in yellow. It is proably covered with grease....wipe it off and the letters are usually the last charcters stamped on the pad.
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thanks man...i came up with a TJM, which translated to a 73-74 350 from a bus? odd that it would have a canister still.
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Re: canister vs. screw on oil filter
So what is the consensus opinion on doing the conversion from canister/cartridge filter to spin-on filter? I converted my 327 (‘66 C10) to spin-on many years ago and I now wonder if I did the right thing. Other than nostalgia or “concours restoration” are there any arguments for keeping or, in my case, returning to the original canister/cartridge style oil filter? Any arguments for the spin-on filter being the better choice?
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All my trucks have spin on's. The 71 had it from factory. The 68 I just sold I swapped it to a spin on. I prefer it over the mess canister make.
The ramp truck has a spin on but it's not the motor that came in it. It's a Corvrtte motor 350 per the old owner! ![]() Which by the way could be it had the corvette ram-horns on it when I got it. They are now on the 64 SS Impala though. To answer your question I like the spin on filters much easier to do a change than the canister and not near as messy! ![]()
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Re: canister vs. screw on oil filter
I've changed 1000+ oil filters in my years as a mechanic. Picking that o-ring out of the block on the canister type filters is a time-consuming pain in the neck. I prefer the spin-on.
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Re: canister vs. screw on oil filter
So what is the consensus opinion on doing the conversion from canister/cartridge filter to spin-on filter? I converted my 327 (‘66 C10) to spin-on many years ago and I now wonder if I did the right thing. Other than nostalgia or “concours restoration” are there any arguments for keeping or, in my case, returning to the original canister/cartridge style oil filter? Any arguments for the spin-on filter being the better choice?
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Re: canister vs. screw on oil filter
My 67 has been converted to spin on (283). Funny thing is three of the four toyota's I have are canister type. Go figure.
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Re: canister vs. screw on oil filter
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Steeveedee, your account/experience has thoroughly convinced me I did the right thing. Thanks to all of you for your responses.
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Re: canister vs. screw on oil filter
I wanted to keep my canister so I did this little modification. I can drain the canister in about 10 minutes before I remove it.
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Re: canister vs. screw on oil filter
That is a great idea and some good work. If I hadn’t already converted mine, I would definitely be giving that a shot.
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Re: canister vs. screw on oil filter
Or you could go with this. (Might be a bit tough in this day and age!)
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