Tranys... What kind and Where to get one - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

Peter82 · 09-01-2007, 01:43 PM

Good day my fine men. i dont know what kind of a trany i have but i have a Chevy 350 and i need a better trany that is better on fuel. i also need new gears on the rear dif for better fuel use. SO... what is a good set up for a trany and the rear dif? My buddy said something aboout a turbo 40o cuz it has over drive... And last, where do i find all this stuff?

krue · 09-01-2007, 02:13 PM

Turbo 400 does not have an overdrive. Your options are a th350 with 3.07 gears, this will put you about 2000 rpm at hiway speed. For overdrive you can put a 200-4R in with the same driveshaft. This lets you use a 3.42 or 3.73 rear end which gives you better take off and still run the same rpms on the hiway. Or if you want a 700-R4 you'll have to shorten your driveshaft but other than that it has the same advantages as the 200.

Dingfodgy · 09-01-2007, 02:58 PM

The 700-R4 / 4L60 trans w/ 3.73 diff is a good & relatively inexpensive setup. Check w/ TCI for a decent tranny that has the constant pressure valve body...this greatly reduces the "finicky-ness" of the stock TV cable hookup.

You can also get a Gear Vendors overdrive unit that bolts on to your stock tranny and also provides an overdrive...these are a bit pricey, but bulletproof.

I am currently doing some research on the 5L50e trans out of a late 90's Caddilac STS. It's a five speed auto so it should have some great gear spacing, plus OD. The only question is does the Northstar V8 have a different bell housing profile then the standard SBC. I'll most likely need to have a custom drive-shaft fabricated and the linkage will be need to be figured out.

As far as diff gears are concerned....check with Yukon, Richmond, or any number of ring and pinion gear manufacturers. Unless you are setup and knowledgeable of how to assemble a differential, I'd definately leave this up to a professional.

Scott68-93-97 · 09-27-2007, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dingfodgy

The 700-R4 / 4L60 trans w/ 3.73 diff is a good & relatively inexpensive setup. Check w/ TCI for a decent tranny that has the constant pressure valve body...this greatly reduces the "finicky-ness" of the stock TV cable hookup.

You can also get a Gear Vendors overdrive unit that bolts on to your stock tranny and also provides an overdrive...these are a bit pricey, but bulletproof.

I am currently doing some research on the 5L50e trans out of a late 90's Caddilac STS. It's a five speed auto so it should have some great gear spacing, plus OD. The only question is does the Northstar V8 have a different bell housing profile then the standard SBC. I'll most likely need to have a custom drive-shaft fabricated and the linkage will be need to be figured out.

As far as diff gears are concerned....check with Yukon, Richmond, or any number of ring and pinion gear manufacturers. Unless you are setup and knowledgeable of how to assemble a differential, I'd definately leave this up to a professional.

Isnt the caddy FWD, Ive seen 4x4 guys run them instead of a tranny and case they run the driveshafts off the cv flange, so is the STS FWD IO thought they were??

If you have a long shaft th350 you can put in a 700r4 or 4l60e without much mods there under a half inch longer than the long shaft 350 so driveline usually can stay, the 200 is not that great of a tranny in my eyes Ive had em blow up but one of the built 200's from bowler or moster tranny would probably hold up

Peter82 · 09-02-2007, 09:17 PM

thanks for the help guys... i am sure i am not the only one wondering about this. Dingfodgy when you find out about that trany will you let me know?

Peter82 · 09-25-2007, 08:42 PM

Any body eals have input for this Thread??? i am getting ready to put some money in this truck... also i am looking for a shortbed with out sidestep - for a 1971 c-10 and both doors. i dont want to spend a lot of money on this truck and all the things i want/need from LMC will cost me about $2,500.

any one got feed back on this idea?

ChevyC102007 · 09-25-2007, 08:51 PM

I agree with the other two posts on this one. Either the 200 or the 700 will work great for over drive tranny's. If I remember correctly the 200 is based loosly on the TH350 3spd and the 700 is based off the 400. If ya like banging gears Id go with either a 5 spd or a 6spd manual. Just my .02

Peter82 · 09-27-2007, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ChevyC102007

I agree with the other two posts on this one. Either the 200 or the 700 will work great for over drive tranny's. If I remember correctly the 200 is based loosly on the TH350 3spd and the 700 is based off the 400. If ya like banging gears Id go with either a 5 spd or a 6spd manual. Just my .02

do they make a 5 speed or 6 speed automatic tranny for my 350? or is that the 200 and 700 trannys? i want to get rid of my 3 speed auto i got now.

Dova · 09-26-2007, 01:17 PM

what is the difference in the 200r4 and the 700r4 besides losesly being based off the 350 and 400?

Blue71LWB · 09-26-2007, 01:39 PM

QUOTE=Dova;2375590]what is the difference in the 200r4 and the 700r4 besides losesly being based off the 350 and 400?[/QUOTE]

The 200 was the overdrive for the Caprice and other full size GM cars . The 700 was put in the trucks probably the van also, not sure though.

I think the most popular seems to be the 700R4 conversion. There are a couple of write ups about this in the Faq forum. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ad.php?t=33266

Thanks,

Orange · 09-26-2007, 02:32 PM

700R4 from a reputable shop and a Bowtie Overdrive TV Made EZ kit.
You can't go wrong.

I LOVE my Godfather 700R from Maddog Transmissions.
But, I have now read some negative on them, and they are out of business I think. Goodfella's on eBay looks to be similar to what I got (their top of the line would be "The Boss").

DLB

glock35ipsc · 09-27-2007, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Orange

700R4 from a reputable shop and a Bowtie Overdrive TV Made EZ kit.
You can't go wrong.

An overdrive transmission WITH an overdrive conversion on it as well???

Orange · 09-27-2007, 04:46 PM

I am really surprised you haven't seen the TV Made EZ Bob, you've been on here for while.

Bowtie Overdrive = Company.
TV Made EZ = Kit.
http://www.tvmadeez.com/

That's the ONLY way to hook up a TV cable in my opinion.

Did it on mine, and it was a snap.

DLB

Longhorn Man · 09-26-2007, 02:41 PM

First, we need to know what gears your truck has... and what your budget is.
If you have a 3.07 gear, and you go to a 3.73 and an overdrive tranny, then your RPMs will only chainge a little bit. Not enough to matter in all reality.
Now, if you do that, and you drop $3000... you'll be ticked off BIG TIME.
You can't go and try to improve on the unknown.

**70cst** · 09-26-2007, 04:25 PM

Ok...I was on the same page until the comment

Quote:

a Bowtie Overdrive TV Made EZ kit.

was made. Explaination please? Maybe my brain is in a temporary freeze.

PanelDeland · 09-26-2007, 05:44 PM

Peter,before you go spending money on body/trim parts try the vendors from the BB.They tend to have better pricing and great customer service.They also use what they sell so have tried to find the best quality parts available.There are links for them and for reveiws of their service.

Peter82 · 09-26-2007, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PanelDeland

Peter,before you go spending money on body/trim parts try the vendors from the BB.

OK so what is the BB? is there a web page or a phone number. i am new to all this classic truck stuff. i have been buying new cars and motorcycles for quite sometime now. Please help my dumb ass...

heavy71chevy · 09-26-2007, 11:41 PM

BB= bullitin board..theres a list of vendors here on the board who are also into 67-72s..they most likely have better service and better pricingthen lmc..so it be better for you in the long run if you check them out before you buy lmc...cause they can save you some $$$

Longhorn Man · 09-27-2007, 10:26 PM

Zac, if you start your own thread, you'll get more traffic and responses.
I'll say there is no need for a custom cross member.
No idea on the carb deal... maybe call them?

Longhorn Man · 09-27-2007, 10:28 PM

LOL! he beat me to it with the same friggen answers!
Actually, no need to drill holes for the 200 4R, place the cross member in the TH400 position, use the shaft from a TH350 truck, and you're there! Run the TV kit (I also strongly recomend the bto kit) and you'll be in like flyn

Dova · 09-28-2007, 10:26 AM

is the 700R4 good with 3.07 gears?

Scott68-93-97 · 09-28-2007, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dova

is the 700R4 good with 3.07 gears?

Great because the 700 has the lowest first gear for auto tranny's so you can take off like you had a 350 with 373's, and take huge advantage of the overdrive but they sell a kit that holds the tranny in 3rd longer so it wont hunt between 3rd and 4th which will kill the tranny, I beleive summit makes it

Orange · 10-02-2007, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott68-93-97

but they sell a kit that holds the tranny in 3rd longer so it wont hunt between 3rd and 4th which will kill the tranny, I beleive summit makes it

If the TV Cable is set up correctly it won't do this anyhow.
You don't need a kit specifically for that (unless it is a TV Made EZ "style" kit you are talking about, which just sets up the TV cable correctly).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter82

well where are you at over there? i was in Al Asad air base. unless you have been there then you wont be able to find it on a map...

now for the rest of everyone. my friend said that the 700 has a bunch of electrical stuff that goes with it. i have a 350 with a real shotty electical sys. any one tell me if thats right. if so how much trouble is all this?

Just if you use the lockup.
I didn't, and don't regret it a bit. A friend of mine has it hooked up on his to a toggle switch and says he never uses it. He either forgets to turn it on, or turns it on, and forgets to turn it off, so its useless to him.

So - No, there doesn't have to be ANY electrical stuff.
It is a pretty simple swap really. You can reuse you lines to run to your new cooler, shorten driveshaft (let a shop do it, less than $100), plus they will balance it), and move the crossmember back.

DLB

Peter82 · 10-02-2007, 07:30 PM

i am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orange

Just if you use the lockup.
I didn't, and don't regret it a bit. A friend of mine has it hooked up on his to a toggle switch and says he never uses it. He either forgets to turn it on, or turns it on, and forgets to turn it off, so its useless to him. DLB

i understand that the lockup is is like a cluch. so if you are slowing down and the lock up is on, then there is constent presser on the engin. is that right?

and with yours you have the lock up on all the time?

Orange · 10-03-2007, 08:19 AM

I may have said it wrong -
The converter clutch lockup is controlled by wire - I am not using that.

You are right - if it is locked up, and slowing down then there is constant pressure on the engine.

I don't have the clutch lock up wired in at all. It gives you about another 200 or so RPM drop, but I don't get that. I just don't have a need. I drive about 10 miles daily - I wouldn't benefit that much from it.

So, I am just benefiting from mine from the point of it being an overdrive, and that's it.

DLB

09-01-2007, 01:43 PM	#1
Peter82 Everything is Custom Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Blairsville, PA Posts: 85	Tranys... What kind and Where to get one Good day my fine men. i dont know what kind of a trany i have but i have a Chevy 350 and i need a better trany that is better on fuel. i also need new gears on the rear dif for better fuel use. SO... what is a good set up for a trany and the rear dif? My buddy said something aboout a turbo 40o cuz it has over drive... And last, where do i find all this stuff?

09-01-2007, 02:13 PM	#2
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,450	Re: Tranys... What kind and Where to get one Turbo 400 does not have an overdrive. Your options are a th350 with 3.07 gears, this will put you about 2000 rpm at hiway speed. For overdrive you can put a 200-4R in with the same driveshaft. This lets you use a 3.42 or 3.73 rear end which gives you better take off and still run the same rpms on the hiway. Or if you want a 700-R4 you'll have to shorten your driveshaft but other than that it has the same advantages as the 200. __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck"

09-01-2007, 02:58 PM	#3
Dingfodgy Lemme show you something!! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: St.Helens, OR. Posts: 876	Re: Tranys... What kind and Where to get one The 700-R4 / 4L60 trans w/ 3.73 diff is a good & relatively inexpensive setup. Check w/ TCI for a decent tranny that has the constant pressure valve body...this greatly reduces the "finicky-ness" of the stock TV cable hookup. You can also get a Gear Vendors overdrive unit that bolts on to your stock tranny and also provides an overdrive...these are a bit pricey, but bulletproof. I am currently doing some research on the 5L50e trans out of a late 90's Caddilac STS. It's a five speed auto so it should have some great gear spacing, plus OD. The only question is does the Northstar V8 have a different bell housing profile then the standard SBC. I'll most likely need to have a custom drive-shaft fabricated and the linkage will be need to be figured out. As far as diff gears are concerned....check with Yukon, Richmond, or any number of ring and pinion gear manufacturers. Unless you are setup and knowledgeable of how to assemble a differential, I'd definately leave this up to a professional. __________________ '67 CST-10 LWB ("Crusty") SOLD '67 GMC SWB ("Murdock") 2000 K1500 Suburban ("Betty") '95 BMW 325i ("Joy")

09-02-2007, 09:17 PM	#5
Peter82 Everything is Custom Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Blairsville, PA Posts: 85	Re: Tranys... What kind and Where to get one thanks for the help guys... i am sure i am not the only one wondering about this. Dingfodgy when you find out about that trany will you let me know?

09-25-2007, 08:42 PM	#6
Peter82 Everything is Custom Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Blairsville, PA Posts: 85	Re: Tranys... What kind and Where to get one Any body eals have input for this Thread??? i am getting ready to put some money in this truck... also i am looking for a shortbed with out sidestep - for a 1971 c-10 and both doors. i dont want to spend a lot of money on this truck and all the things i want/need from LMC will cost me about $2,500. any one got feed back on this idea?

09-25-2007, 08:51 PM	#7
ChevyC102007 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Emporium,Pa Posts: 248	Re: Tranys... What kind and Where to get one I agree with the other two posts on this one. Either the 200 or the 700 will work great for over drive tranny's. If I remember correctly the 200 is based loosly on the TH350 3spd and the 700 is based off the 400. If ya like banging gears Id go with either a 5 spd or a 6spd manual. Just my .02 __________________ "When you were born, you cried and the world rejoiced. Live your life so that when you die, the world cries and you rejoice." [Cherokee saying] 2001 Dodge Ram Sport 1500 4x4. (old ride) 1987 GMC V1500 Sierra Classic ("new" ride)

09-26-2007, 01:17 PM	#9
Dova Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Silverdale, WA Posts: 263	Re: Tranys... What kind and Where to get one what is the difference in the 200r4 and the 700r4 besides losesly being based off the 350 and 400?

09-26-2007, 01:39 PM	#10
Blue71LWB Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 120	Re: Tranys... What kind and Where to get one QUOTE=Dova;2375590]what is the difference in the 200r4 and the 700r4 besides losesly being based off the 350 and 400?[/QUOTE] The 200 was the overdrive for the Caprice and other full size GM cars . The 700 was put in the trucks probably the van also, not sure though. I think the most popular seems to be the 700R4 conversion. There are a couple of write ups about this in the Faq forum. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ad.php?t=33266 Thanks, Last edited by Blue71LWB; 09-26-2007 at 01:47 PM.

09-26-2007, 02:32 PM	#11
Orange Licensed to Thrill! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Northwest, GA Posts: 1,673	Re: Tranys... What kind and Where to get one 700R4 from a reputable shop and a Bowtie Overdrive TV Made EZ kit. You can't go wrong. I LOVE my Godfather 700R from Maddog Transmissions. But, I have now read some negative on them, and they are out of business I think. Goodfella's on eBay looks to be similar to what I got (their top of the line would be "The Boss"). DLB __________________ 1971 GMC.Lowered. Overdrive. Orange. Krue's excellent FAQ Index. Last edited by Orange; 10-02-2007 at 01:25 PM.

09-27-2007, 04:46 PM	#13
Orange Licensed to Thrill! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Northwest, GA Posts: 1,673	Re: Tranys... What kind and Where to get one I am really surprised you haven't seen the TV Made EZ Bob, you've been on here for while. Bowtie Overdrive = Company. TV Made EZ = Kit. http://www.tvmadeez.com/ That's the ONLY way to hook up a TV cable in my opinion. Did it on mine, and it was a snap. DLB __________________ 1971 GMC.Lowered. Overdrive. Orange. Krue's excellent FAQ Index.

09-26-2007, 02:41 PM	#14
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Tranys... What kind and Where to get one First, we need to know what gears your truck has... and what your budget is. If you have a 3.07 gear, and you go to a 3.73 and an overdrive tranny, then your RPMs will only chainge a little bit. Not enough to matter in all reality. Now, if you do that, and you drop $3000... you'll be ticked off BIG TIME. You can't go and try to improve on the unknown.

09-26-2007, 05:44 PM	#16
PanelDeland I am a Referee of life. Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Greensboro N.C. Posts: 13,993	Re: Tranys... What kind and Where to get one Peter,before you go spending money on body/trim parts try the vendors from the BB.They tend to have better pricing and great customer service.They also use what they sell so have tried to find the best quality parts available.There are links for them and for reveiws of their service. __________________ The 47-present Chevrolet and GMC Truck Message Board Network,it's owners,moderators,members,and associates of any type should not be held responsible for my opinion. You can't fix stupid,not even with duct tape. "My appearance is due to the fact that "GOD" does punish you for having too much fun!" Barrett-Jackson has perfected alchemy,they make rust into gold! "You can lead a horse to water but you can't saddle a duck" "Cleverly disguised as a 'Responsible Adult' "Sometimes your Knight in shining armor is just a retard in tinfoil"

09-26-2007, 11:41 PM	#18
heavy71chevy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: antreville, south carolina Posts: 873	Re: Tranys... What kind and Where to get one BB= bullitin board..theres a list of vendors here on the board who are also into 67-72s..they most likely have better service and better pricingthen lmc..so it be better for you in the long run if you check them out before you buy lmc...cause they can save you some $$$ __________________ "Dixie Destroyer" 71 C10 LWB Fleet Future Blown Prostreet Monster

09-27-2007, 10:26 PM	#19
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Tranys... What kind and Where to get one Zac, if you start your own thread, you'll get more traffic and responses. I'll say there is no need for a custom cross member. No idea on the carb deal... maybe call them?

09-27-2007, 10:28 PM	#20
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Tranys... What kind and Where to get one LOL! he beat me to it with the same friggen answers! Actually, no need to drill holes for the 200 4R, place the cross member in the TH400 position, use the shaft from a TH350 truck, and you're there! Run the TV kit (I also strongly recomend the bto kit) and you'll be in like flyn



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09-28-2007, 10:26 AM	#21
Dova Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Silverdale, WA Posts: 263	Re: Tranys... What kind and Where to get one is the 700R4 good with 3.07 gears?

10-03-2007, 08:19 AM	#25
Orange Licensed to Thrill! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Northwest, GA Posts: 1,673	Re: Tranys... What kind and Where to get one I may have said it wrong - The converter clutch lockup is controlled by wire - I am not using that. You are right - if it is locked up, and slowing down then there is constant pressure on the engine. I don't have the clutch lock up wired in at all. It gives you about another 200 or so RPM drop, but I don't get that. I just don't have a need. I drive about 10 miles daily - I wouldn't benefit that much from it. So, I am just benefiting from mine from the point of it being an overdrive, and that's it. DLB __________________ 1971 GMC.Lowered. Overdrive. Orange. Krue's excellent FAQ Index. Last edited by Orange; 10-03-2007 at 08:25 AM.

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