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**70cst** · 03-14-2003, 01:54 AM

Now that I've got the LED's Tail/Cargo lights on order from Reumster what do you all recommend for upgrading my headlights. What should I consider when selecting an upgrade in headlights?
I await the answers from those with more knowledge then I.

JadeEmperor · 03-14-2003, 02:08 AM

I like and am going with the H4 conversion mirror finish and tri-bars from Street Beat.

http://www.streetbeatcustoms.com/7headcontril.html

Hooter · 03-14-2003, 02:13 AM

I got bosh halogen h4's on the 69 and the monte with the cool blue ultra white bulbs, cant go wrong with those!

**70cst** · 03-14-2003, 08:35 AM

ttt

Church · 03-14-2003, 10:43 AM

There are lots of great headlamp coversions out right now. I carry the APC, Toucan, Hella and Pilot conversions for the 67-72 trucks. I also carry the new HID H4 bulbs. They are available in high watt or standard watt versions.
Click here http://www.carolinaclassictrucks.com/lighting.htm
and go to headlamp coversions to see our products.

I personally have the APC headlamps with the Toucan H4 80/100 watt HID bulbs.

All of the conversions offer better lighting than standard halogen sealed beam headlights.

Long Knight · 03-14-2003, 11:38 AM

Xenon, or however you spell it. That will really piss off on-coming traffic!

By the way, Church I bet my dog could eat yours!lol

Church · 03-14-2003, 11:52 AM

Hey, I like dogs I can pet not punt! hehehe just kiddin' with ya.
The Xenon bulbs are the type that I carry. You will have to readjust your headlights (a little lower) if you use these type of bulbs and you should not have any problems. I am currently using 100 watt bulbs in my fog, low and high beam lights on my lifted 2000 WJ and have not had anyone "flick their lights at me yet.
The Xenon bulbs are not really High Intensity Discharge (HID) lights. They cost much less than HID's but give off the same whitish/blueish tint instead of the halogen yellow.

Long Knight · 03-14-2003, 11:55 AM

I used a Xenon bulb on my last bike and it made a huge difference.

Reumster · 03-14-2003, 12:34 PM

I say that I have Hella conversion housings in my blazer, one is cracked, I've had them for close to 3 years now, I love them, I've ran 4 or 5 different H4 bulbs, I'm buying Streat beat tribar blue dot housing soon, they're the best looking housing available.

Reumster · 03-14-2003, 02:56 PM

Due to my voltage regulator taking a crap, and blowing my high beams, I just sadly replaced them with APC H4 bulbs. I'd like to get either the new Silvana Silver series bulbs, or some Hiper Industries.

StreetBeat Tribar blue dots.

New 7" projector housing

sgtjed · 03-14-2003, 03:30 PM

shoot i drove my 70 last nite for the first time in months and could barley see the road with its original headlights.
so looks like i am going to up grade to better lights too.

Church · 03-14-2003, 03:34 PM

I have the 7" round h-4 conversion headlights (see pic below)
for 47.00 a pair plus shipping. Bulbs not included. I have the h-4 Xenon regular watt bulbs for 13.64 per pair and the high watt xenon for 15.59 per pair plus shipping.

**70cst** · 03-14-2003, 08:26 PM

Thanks for the feedback on the lights. Tim...I'll be stopping in a couple weeks to pick up my goodies...so I see you then about the lights

gashog · 03-14-2003, 08:43 PM

I have the same ones church sells, I've got the xenon type H4's and like em alot. Next time I'll buy them from church and save some $$

imdarren · 03-14-2003, 09:47 PM

I saw a show truck a while back that had headlights from a Jaguar. They were really clear. They looked great.

Darren

Bill72BB · 03-14-2003, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Church
I have the 7" round h-4 conversion headlights (see pic below)
for 32.00 a pair plus shipping. Bulbs not included. I have the h-4 Xenon regular watt bulbs for 13.64 per pair and the high watt xenon for 15.59 per pair plus shipping.

Church ;
Will these combo work well with the stock wiring harness ?

Thanks

Project1970 · 03-15-2003, 07:08 AM

Random question - anything like that H4 kit for us GMC guys?

O'l Buck · 03-15-2003, 09:22 AM

I went to Wal-Mart and picked up a set of sylvania "cool blue" lights for my 4x4......it was like the difference between night and day compared to my old Wagner Halogens.....I love them, best headlights out of the 5 vehicles I have running right now.

Church · 03-15-2003, 11:02 AM

Bill,
Yes they will work with the stock wiring harness, it is a plug and play deal and you're done. There is no need to splice any wires on you stock harness. I will say though, if you decide to go with the high wattage bulbs, I would watch your wiring closely to make sure it is not getting warm. I recommend upgrading your light harness if you decide to go with the high watt bulbs.

I am still looking into the GMC conversion. I am making progress on it. I have the light conversion part and one set of bulbs that will work. I am still trying to figure out the lo beam portion of it.
If there are any local GMC's that want to upgrade, PM or email me.
I need to make sure the conversion is working properly.

I'll keep you posted.

Hotrod70C10 · 03-15-2003, 12:48 PM

I have the sylvania halogen xtravision's in my truck. They say they are 3 times brighter and have twice the life of a regular halogen. Compared to my old lights I would have to say they are right. For both it cost me $30 with tax.

Earl Junior · 03-17-2003, 02:47 PM

I've got the conversion Church sells.

I don't see much difference on the low beam, but the high beams really light up the night.

I don't want to mislead you, I'm definitely happy with the conversion. We'll see how things go after I get them aimed properly.

BobbyK · 03-17-2003, 08:53 PM

Most of the time the problem with dull factory headlights is the wireing.With 30 year old wireing you can end up with significant voltage drop by the time the power reaches the lights.

If you have a voltmeter measure the volts on the back of the alt.Then measure the volts at the light with the light on.If you have less than 12 volts at the light your headlights will be dull and not perform well.

If you upgrade to a higher wattage bulb(H4,xeon,etc) the performance could be even worse than the orig. headlights.

A simple upgrade to a pair of relays will get a full 12-14 volts to the headlights and the difference in the performance of your lights will be amazing!

It can be wired like this.

Bill72BB · 03-22-2003, 01:55 PM

I installed the conversion Church was talking about above yesterday .
The APC Headlamps and the H4lxc 60/55 watt Xenon bulbs.

Took the wife for a drive last nite both of use noticed a big difference in brightness with both the low and high beams .

Ist impressions I love them. Will take a pic today.

Thanks Church

krue · 03-23-2003, 09:14 PM

Church, let me know when you get the GMC kit, pretty sure I'm gonna need it.

Church · 03-23-2003, 09:54 PM

Hey Krue, I have got to find a local GMC owner who will let me test on his rig. That is what I'm waiting on right now. I'll keep you posted on the latest.

Thanks Bill, We appreciate your business. Glad to hear you like them.

03-14-2003, 01:54 AM	#1
70cst Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: New Madison, Ohio Posts: 21,365	Headlights Upgrade. What Say Yee? Now that I've got the LED's Tail/Cargo lights on order from Reumster what do you all recommend for upgrading my headlights. What should I consider when selecting an upgrade in headlights? I await the answers from those with more knowledge then I.

03-14-2003, 02:08 AM	#2
JadeEmperor Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ 85018 Posts: 102	I like and am going with the H4 conversion mirror finish and tri-bars from Street Beat. http://www.streetbeatcustoms.com/7headcontril.html __________________ Jimmie Modern Vintage Autoworks - '70 Chevy C10 - '74 Chevy C30 3+3 Dually - '04 Chevy Colorado Built, NOT, Bought. If you build it...they will ENVY! Drive Slow, Scrape Hard, or Take Your Truck and GO HOME!

03-14-2003, 02:13 AM	#3
Hooter My other Love Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Castlegar B.C. Canada Posts: 4,085	I got bosh halogen h4's on the 69 and the monte with the cool blue ultra white bulbs, cant go wrong with those! __________________ Castlegar B.C.The great white North (Canada Eh!) Hooter_5@hotmail.com First generation Monte Carlo club pictures of my life

03-14-2003, 10:43 AM	#5
Church Carolina Classic Trucks Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: The South Posts: 792	There are lots of great headlamp coversions out right now. I carry the APC, Toucan, Hella and Pilot conversions for the 67-72 trucks. I also carry the new HID H4 bulbs. They are available in high watt or standard watt versions. Click here http://www.carolinaclassictrucks.com/lighting.htm and go to headlamp coversions to see our products. I personally have the APC headlamps with the Toucan H4 80/100 watt HID bulbs. All of the conversions offer better lighting than standard halogen sealed beam headlights. __________________

03-14-2003, 11:38 AM	#6
Long Knight Spank 'em if you got 'em! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Kansas City Posts: 628	Xenon, or however you spell it. That will really piss off on-coming traffic! By the way, Church I bet my dog could eat yours!lol __________________ Long Knight '71 C-20, 350ci, TH350, Edl. 1406 Carb w/elec.choke, Ignitor ignition, Viper Tires, Orange Dipstick

03-14-2003, 08:35 AM	#4
70cst Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: New Madison, Ohio Posts: 21,365	ttt

03-14-2003, 11:52 AM	#7
Church Carolina Classic Trucks Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: The South Posts: 792	Hey, I like dogs I can pet not punt! hehehe just kiddin' with ya. The Xenon bulbs are the type that I carry. You will have to readjust your headlights (a little lower) if you use these type of bulbs and you should not have any problems. I am currently using 100 watt bulbs in my fog, low and high beam lights on my lifted 2000 WJ and have not had anyone "flick their lights at me yet. The Xenon bulbs are not really High Intensity Discharge (HID) lights. They cost much less than HID's but give off the same whitish/blueish tint instead of the halogen yellow.

03-14-2003, 11:55 AM	#8
Long Knight Spank 'em if you got 'em! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Kansas City Posts: 628	I used a Xenon bulb on my last bike and it made a huge difference. __________________ Long Knight '71 C-20, 350ci, TH350, Edl. 1406 Carb w/elec.choke, Ignitor ignition, Viper Tires, Orange Dipstick

03-14-2003, 12:34 PM	#9
Reumster L.E.D. Freak Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Polson MT Posts: 1,358	I say that I have Hella conversion housings in my blazer, one is cracked, I've had them for close to 3 years now, I love them, I've ran 4 or 5 different H4 bulbs, I'm buying Streat beat tribar blue dot housing soon, they're the best looking housing available. __________________ Specializing in Custom L.E.D. inserts. http://www.ccled.com/ Contact me @ blazer2wd1972@hotmail.com (406)675-8082 or Joel @ jmcwaters@eps-corp.net 1972 2wd Blazer, 350/700R4/3:73 posi, err & Custom L.E.D. inserts! LOL

03-14-2003, 02:56 PM	#10
Reumster L.E.D. Freak Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Polson MT Posts: 1,358	Due to my voltage regulator taking a crap, and blowing my high beams, I just sadly replaced them with APC H4 bulbs. I'd like to get either the new Silvana Silver series bulbs, or some Hiper Industries. StreetBeat Tribar blue dots. New 7" projector housing __________________ Specializing in Custom L.E.D. inserts. http://www.ccled.com/ Contact me @ blazer2wd1972@hotmail.com (406)675-8082 or Joel @ jmcwaters@eps-corp.net 1972 2wd Blazer, 350/700R4/3:73 posi, err & Custom L.E.D. inserts! LOL

03-14-2003, 03:30 PM	#11
sgtjed What if? Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Choctaw,Oklahoma Posts: 649	shoot i drove my 70 last nite for the first time in months and could barley see the road with its original headlights. so looks like i am going to up grade to better lights too. __________________ 2002 red extended cab Silverado 2002 Wheatland yellow Suburban

03-14-2003, 03:34 PM	#12
Church Carolina Classic Trucks Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: The South Posts: 792	I have the 7" round h-4 conversion headlights (see pic below) for 47.00 a pair plus shipping. Bulbs not included. I have the h-4 Xenon regular watt bulbs for 13.64 per pair and the high watt xenon for 15.59 per pair plus shipping. Attached Images __________________ Last edited by Church; 03-17-2003 at 03:03 PM.

03-14-2003, 08:26 PM	#13
70cst Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: New Madison, Ohio Posts: 21,365	Thanks for the feedback on the lights. Tim...I'll be stopping in a couple weeks to pick up my goodies...so I see you then about the lights

03-14-2003, 08:43 PM	#14
gashog Active Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Lake co. california Posts: 192	I have the same ones church sells, I've got the xenon type H4's and like em alot. Next time I'll buy them from church and save some $$ __________________ 69 Custom/10 454 Turbo 400 and 70 Custom/20 350 Turbo 350, 73 cheyanne C/10 also 69 camaro Z/28 and 85 Iroc Z

03-14-2003, 09:47 PM	#15
imdarren Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: SW Washington Posts: 1,006	I saw a show truck a while back that had headlights from a Jaguar. They were really clear. They looked great. Darren __________________ Washington State 1967 Chevy C10 LWB Rodstoration In Progress. 1972 K20 Cheyenne Super



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03-15-2003, 07:08 AM	#17
Project1970 14.1 @ 96MPH Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 2,811	Random question - anything like that H4 kit for us GMC guys? __________________ Project1970 - LS1 Swap Complete!

03-15-2003, 09:22 AM	#18
O'l Buck Recovering Truck Driver Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Orleans, NE USA Posts: 1,883	I went to Wal-Mart and picked up a set of sylvania "cool blue" lights for my 4x4......it was like the difference between night and day compared to my old Wagner Halogens.....I love them, best headlights out of the 5 vehicles I have running right now. __________________ 67 K-20 350, SM465, Eaton rear, 4.56 no spin option 00 Dodge 2500 4x4, 24V cummins, 5 speed Chad South Central Nebraska

03-15-2003, 11:02 AM	#19
Church Carolina Classic Trucks Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: The South Posts: 792	Bill, Yes they will work with the stock wiring harness, it is a plug and play deal and you're done. There is no need to splice any wires on you stock harness. I will say though, if you decide to go with the high wattage bulbs, I would watch your wiring closely to make sure it is not getting warm. I recommend upgrading your light harness if you decide to go with the high watt bulbs. I am still looking into the GMC conversion. I am making progress on it. I have the light conversion part and one set of bulbs that will work. I am still trying to figure out the lo beam portion of it. If there are any local GMC's that want to upgrade, PM or email me. I need to make sure the conversion is working properly. I'll keep you posted. __________________

03-15-2003, 12:48 PM	#20
Hotrod70C10 Low & Slow Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,047	I have the sylvania halogen xtravision's in my truck. They say they are 3 times brighter and have twice the life of a regular halogen. Compared to my old lights I would have to say they are right. For both it cost me $30 with tax. __________________ 70' C-10 LWB Fleetside 4.5/6 drop

03-17-2003, 02:47 PM	#21
Earl Junior Cadillac power Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North Idaho Posts: 296	I've got the conversion Church sells. I don't see much difference on the low beam, but the high beams really light up the night. I don't want to mislead you, I'm definitely happy with the conversion. We'll see how things go after I get them aimed properly. __________________ Just for the record, if I'm down to my last potato, I'm not sharing it with a guy who wants to kill me so he can get a better supply of virgins in paradise. That lesson is a little thing I call Economics 101, infidel style. --Scott Adams author of Dilbert Last edited by Earl Junior; 03-17-2003 at 03:49 PM.

03-17-2003, 08:53 PM	#22
BobbyK Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Petrolia,Ontario,Canada but working in Port Huron,Mi. Posts: 1,771	Most of the time the problem with dull factory headlights is the wireing.With 30 year old wireing you can end up with significant voltage drop by the time the power reaches the lights. If you have a voltmeter measure the volts on the back of the alt.Then measure the volts at the light with the light on.If you have less than 12 volts at the light your headlights will be dull and not perform well. If you upgrade to a higher wattage bulb(H4,xeon,etc) the performance could be even worse than the orig. headlights. A simple upgrade to a pair of relays will get a full 12-14 volts to the headlights and the difference in the performance of your lights will be amazing! It can be wired like this. __________________ 71 blazer,350SBC,approx.375HP,700R4,factory GM TPI.Dual electric fans,33x12.5x15 ATR on stock suspension. Petrolia,Ontario,Canada but working in Port Huron,MI. See ALL my Blazer pic's HERE

03-22-2003, 01:55 PM	#23
Bill72BB Thats the Hillbilly way Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Torrance,Ca Posts: 5,980	I installed the conversion Church was talking about above yesterday . The APC Headlamps and the H4lxc 60/55 watt Xenon bulbs. Took the wife for a drive last nite both of use noticed a big difference in brightness with both the low and high beams . Ist impressions I love them. Will take a pic today. Thanks Church __________________ BILL Torrance Calif 90504 Member DUF Club Member Old Farts Club 72 3/4ton Custom Camper BB402/400 trans Dynomax Cerama-coat headers , Hei distributor ,Edelbrock 1411 air,ps,pb,leafsprings ,98 chevy 60/40 seat,S10 shoulder belts tilt,3.54 Dana 60 rear. 16" Eagle wheels with LT265/75 16 tires,Gaylord Lid,H4 headlights with 100W relay conversion. " If I knew I was going to live this long I would have taken better care of myself " Marriage changes passion...suddenly you're in bed with a relative. A GUY'S PRAYER.... Lord, I pray for a nympho with huge boobs who owns a liquor store and likes to fish and hunt and has a Harley .Amen ,

03-23-2003, 09:14 PM	#24
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,450	Church, let me know when you get the GMC kit, pretty sure I'm gonna need it.

03-23-2003, 09:54 PM	#25
Church Carolina Classic Trucks Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: The South Posts: 792	Hey Krue, I have got to find a local GMC owner who will let me test on his rig. That is what I'm waiting on right now. I'll keep you posted on the latest. Thanks Bill, We appreciate your business. Glad to hear you like them. __________________

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