settle a bet!

['68 longbed]

I was getting props for my spray can paint job that actually looks pretty good for a light coat and some gentle wet sanding....which led to an argument of whether or not a decent automotive paint job could be had with a power sprayer such as a wagoner electric sprayer....seems to me that it would at least be more consistant than a rattle can...

some of the arguments against included "splotchy" application...

none of us are painters by any means, I can apply a very decent rattle can paint job with enough wet sanding and gloss....but that's about the extent of my knowledge.

I'm those who know better would like to display our ignorance!!

[Longhorn Man]

depends on the defenition of decent automotive paint job.
Some say you can use rollers and have a nice paint job.
Others think that group is high on paint fumes.

With enough wet sanding, i guess you could get a good paint job with a paint brush.

[bad6772]

Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

depends on the defenition of decent automotive paint job.
Some say you can use rollers and have a nice paint job.
Others think that group is high on paint fumes.

With enough wet sanding, i guess you could get a good paint job with a paint brush.

once again i agree wih LONGHORN MAN

['68 longbed]

I'd consider rattle can (carefully done) quality or slightly better to be "decent" seems like you could at least apply broader more consitant coats?

[EAST SIDE LOW LIFE]

Originally Posted by '68 longbed

I'd consider rattle can (carefully done) quality or slightly better to be "decent" seems like you could at least apply broader more consitant coats?

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I really do not know if I understand your question. Apply broader more consistant strokes compared to what? Spray bombs have come along way and are good for small jobs when it's not worth loading up a gun like nuts and bolts sorta thing but they do not in my way of thinking replace a gun for the bigger jobs. A Wagoner electric sprayer is not an automotive paint gun but is great for fences.

esll.

[streetstar]

Use the proceeds from winning the bet to buy an air compressor and an HVLP kit (Devilbiss made) from Eastwood for , maybe a $300 or $400 total outlay and play around with it to see

[Huck]

Spray can is inconsistant is volumn and pressure as is the waggner spray painter. Can's put out too thin and Waggner puts out too thick.
I've seen roll on and brush on that when sanded turned out super but it takes a lot of work and knowhow---something most of us have very little of!! A good quality paint job will cost you $3-400. in material alone and that is on the cheap side. I think that may be why "rat rods" are getting real popular!

[AlienYouth]

in the $50 paint job thread on honda-tech forums, someone used the newer wagner HVLP and it looked pretty much awesome : )

i've been doin alot of research on this, because im gonna be starting my rustoleum roll on job soon : )

[streetstar]

Why, when the materials are available to do it the rght way ----- granted , no pro will be caught dead using a $40 HVLP gun, but that will be fine with practice for a beginner paint job --- and compressors can be had for $100 at Harbor Freight and similar tool outlets. -- again , not a pro quality compressor(you dont need an 80 gallon 2 stage 3 cylinder compressor for paint anymore unless you are using a siphon feed gun) , but all you need is consistent air flow and a good moisture filter in the line

[Longhorn Man]

Originally Posted by streetstar

Why, when the materials are available to do it the rght way ----- granted , no pro will be caught dead using a $40 HVLP gun, but that will be fine with practice for a beginner paint job --- and compressors can be had for $100 at Harbor Freight and similar tool outlets. -- again , not a pro quality compressor(you dont need an 80 gallon 2 stage 3 cylinder compressor for paint anymore unless you are using a siphon feed gun) , but all you need is consistent air flow and a good moisture filter in the line

You gotta remember, one man's budget bolt on (or budget paint job in this case) is another man's ENTIRE budget.

[streetstar]

Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

You gotta remember, one man's budget bolt on (or budget paint job in this case) is another man's ENTIRE budget.

Oh, i know - everyone's on a budget to one degree or another, i was just trying to point what a low buck paint operation might cost. I have seen some people make a makeshift booth in their garage as well using 2x4's and plastic sheeting too. But usually for painting by the panel, not an entire truck because of ventilation issues

[68,69 K20]

Originally Posted by streetstar

Why, when the materials are available to do it the rght way ----- granted , no pro will be caught dead using a $40 HVLP gun, but that will be fine with practice for a beginner paint job --- and compressors can be had for $100 at Harbor Freight and similar tool outlets. -- again , not a pro quality compressor(you dont need an 80 gallon 2 stage 3 cylinder compressor for paint anymore unless you are using a siphon feed gun) , but all you need is consistent air flow and a good moisture filter in the line

I agree, I am a painter by trade, house not car. I have used a Binks HVLP previously painting houses, not the best setup for houses but more made for spraying cars. They are very user friendly and one can master technique in no time. You can get a HVLP setup for a resonable sum, no need to spend an arm and a leg on one, and most air compressers will work. Congrats to all who can make a brush and roll job look good, takes a lot of time and effort, but there's nothing like a spray gun to layer paint properly.

[Dano69c10]

I know I'll be doing a roller/brush on my '69 because aside from being a low buck build I don't have anywhere to spray paint. I will be doing this job in my garage and don't want to worry about masking off everything in the garage except the floor. When I build a truck for a customer, I job paint and bodywork out to my brother in law because it's the customer's money, but I don't have a lot of cash to put out on my work truck.

[Rc 415]

those of you in this thread talking about doing that roller method, I did it for about 3 weeks, and I was not satisfied at all, I was thinking the same as you guys are now, its cheap and I have the time, but let me tell you it gets really old really quick, and the stuff does scratch off with your fingernail, even after many weeks of cure time it stays kind of that rubbery consistency... I gave up and sanded it all off now my truck sits with a flat black primer job.

[dmsteele92831]

I think my roll-on paint using rustoleum enamel came out pretty bada$$. It is a lot of work though! It seems to be holding up great too. I'm sure I'll have to wax it every 3 months or so though to keep it nice and shiny. Now I've gotta finish the rest of the truck.

[jamie72]

Originally Posted by dmsteele92831

I think my roll-on paint using rustoleum enamel came out pretty bada$$. It is a lot of work though! It seems to be holding up great too. I'm sure I'll have to wax it every 3 months or so though to keep it nice and shiny. Now I've gotta finish the rest of the truck.

that looks real good, so how did you do it??

[streetstar]

I am actually shocked that your orange bedside came out looking that good ------ thumbs up -- seriously

[LUV2XCLR8]

THAT ORANGE TRUCK LOOKS AWESOME FOR A ROLL ON JOB

[Longhorn Man]

streetstar, looking back at my reply, let me say that was not intended to sound p!ssy or anything... just a reminder for some, that a couple rollers and a gallon of paint may be all some of us can afford.
Rc 415, I wonder if you mixed it wrong or didn't prep it good enough. I shot rustolium through a paint gun with good results, while it isn't as rock hard as a clear coat, it is fairly scratch resistant, and since so many people have done this, and was even covered in Hot Rod magizine, I think some one woulda mentioned that.

[JAKES 68GMC]

Originally Posted by '68 longbed

I was getting props for my spray can paint job that actually looks pretty good for a light coat and some gentle wet sanding.... I can apply a very decent rattle can paint job with enough wet sanding and gloss....but that's about the extent of my knowledge.

Can we see some pics of this rattle can job? I'm interested.

[special-K]

You can rent an automotive painting outfit spray it the right way.

[projectking]

FYI Most of todays HVLP guns require almost double the CFM that a 110v compressor can put out.

[crm318]

dmsteele, what kind of paint did you use for your roll on job. i painted my 78 chevy sportvan with roll on with the same color. but it had a diffrent texture. i used a custom made kelly moore paint and cut it with 30% mineral spirits.

[crm318]

ttt

[kxnomore]

Here's a rattle can job I shamefully needed to do lately. The colors are Rustoleum "Sail Blue" and "Gloss white". Money's been tight lately, and this was a huge cost savings for the family.

Total money for paint and sandpaper- $50
Time spent- nights after work for 5 days. - $?
Savings over a decent paint job- $2,000.

There is no way this compares to a real paint job, of course, but this was the only way for my budget.