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Gary Lee · 03-19-2005, 11:41 PM

Who's done one of these swaps? I know there is the NVG 3500, and they are pricey... but what about T-5... they are plentiful as they came in the camaros, firebirds, s-10, Jeeps, mustangs...

But do they all bolt up to a chevy bellhousing... I think they would... I know some fab with the crossmember and the tuffy would be the clutch and all...

I prefer a stick and since I am not building a race truck with a monster motor here, just not sure if I am looking down the wrong road here... Please someone tell me the skinny or the err of my ways before i get too far into this....

69 longhorn · 03-19-2005, 11:59 PM

I love a stick myself! The Richmond OD in my longhorn was very pricey, but bolted to the stock bellhousing, & runs the same slipyolk as a 400 turbo. The trans is within a fraction of an inch for lenght as compaired to the old 400T(no driveline mods). with a 3.40 gear, on a 29" tire, pullin a .76 OD ratio, that old truck is flat @ss out of speedo @ 3000 rpms on the open road....overdrive rocks

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Gary Lee · 03-20-2005, 12:07 AM

yeah i am sure it rocks, but can't justify the $$$ for this tired old truck at the moment... I am on a cheap beer pocketbook on this project... 40 oz pocketbook is more like it...

69 longhorn · 03-20-2005, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Lee

yeah i am sure it rocks, but can't justify the $$$ for this tired old truck at the moment... I am on a cheap beer pocketbook on this project... 40 oz pocketbook is more like it...

Amen! I understand about the pocketbook......the bank just seemed to have more money than me.....yes I will be paying for that trans swap for a while

at any rate, there are a few options aftermarket(none are very cheap), but a few will bolt the stock bell. Tr 3550/TKO 5 spd is another that I looked at. there is also a retrofit t56, that fits the stock bell....double overdrive. the last 2 trannies will be needing driveshaft mods, but are about $1000 cheaper than the Richmond. the T5 trans is a problem , from a strength standpoint, & the others stockers wont bolt a stock (67-72) bell. I am sure there are other options......& hopefully some cheaper options. 69L

Kas68c10 · 03-20-2005, 11:05 PM

I went the t5 route. My 6 doesnt have a lot of horses, the swap was cheap and easy,and I havent had a problem in 7 years. Love the o/d ! Did have to shorten the driveshaft, new clutch, but it all lined up just fine.

dmec · 03-20-2005, 11:25 PM

i agree with the t5 swap. i have been running a t5 behind a 300hp 350 for 5 years with no problems. just use everything from doner car. bellhousing and hydraulic clutch. just make sure it is from a v8 engine. the s10 t5 is weaker than the camaro/firebird.

Gary Lee · 03-21-2005, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dmec

i agree with the t5 swap. i have been running a t5 behind a 300hp 350 for 5 years with no problems. just use everything from doner car. bellhousing and hydraulic clutch. just make sure it is from a v8 engine. the s10 t5 is weaker than the camaro/firebird.

That is what I was wondering... Thats about the setup I am shooting for... glad its been no problems and hats another reason I love sticks... now to keep my eyes open

shifty · 03-20-2005, 11:59 PM

Hey, 69 longhorn, what kinda gas mileage do you get with your current setup?

69 longhorn · 03-21-2005, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by shifty

Hey, 69 longhorn, what kinda gas mileage do you get with your current setup?

I havent had a chance to check the mileage, since I swapped the rear gears, but she was getting 10-11 mpg with the 4.10 + overdrive. when fuel hit $2 gal, I swapped the 3.40 gears back in. it should get better(I hope!) I think a computerized "fuelie" may be the best bet for mileage tho.....69L

jcueckert13 · 03-21-2005, 12:04 AM

has anyone done the nv 4500 swap? i am looking at that for my gmc because i still want a decent low gear with an over drive.

Gary Lee · 03-21-2005, 02:15 PM

I don't think the fuel economy is the issue as It will take tens of thousands to recoup the costs, but here in Ga on the interstate 70mph is the limit but 80-85 is the flow of traffic... The rpms necessary to cruise at that speed is hard on an older engine...

shifty · 03-21-2005, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Lee

I don't think the fuel economy is the issue as It will take tens of thousands to recoup the costs, but here in Ga on the interstate 70mph is the limit but 80-85 is the flow of traffic... The rpms necessary to cruise at that speed is hard on an older engine...

That's why I only drive during rush hour around here.

jcueckert13 · 03-21-2005, 06:11 PM

if you go with a t-5 get the world class t5 because the non world class that came in the s10s will not hold up to anything bigger than a 4.3 v6

03-19-2005, 11:41 PM	#1
Gary Lee fixer of 72 GMC LWB Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newnan GA Posts: 111	OD 5spd/6spd Who's done one of these swaps? I know there is the NVG 3500, and they are pricey... but what about T-5... they are plentiful as they came in the camaros, firebirds, s-10, Jeeps, mustangs... But do they all bolt up to a chevy bellhousing... I think they would... I know some fab with the crossmember and the tuffy would be the clutch and all... I prefer a stick and since I am not building a race truck with a monster motor here, just not sure if I am looking down the wrong road here... Please someone tell me the skinny or the err of my ways before i get too far into this....

03-19-2005, 11:59 PM	#2
69 longhorn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: rock island,il,usa Posts: 5,382	I love a stick myself! The Richmond OD in my longhorn was very pricey, but bolted to the stock bellhousing, & runs the same slipyolk as a 400 turbo. The trans is within a fraction of an inch for lenght as compaired to the old 400T(no driveline mods). with a 3.40 gear, on a 29" tire, pullin a .76 OD ratio, that old truck is flat @ss out of speedo @ 3000 rpms on the open road....overdrive rocks L __________________ http://community.webshots.com/user/hotrodhorn

03-20-2005, 11:05 PM	#5
Kas68c10 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Freeland,Michigan,USA Posts: 312	I went the t5 route. My 6 doesnt have a lot of horses, the swap was cheap and easy,and I havent had a problem in 7 years. Love the o/d ! Did have to shorten the driveshaft, new clutch, but it all lined up just fine. __________________ 1968 SWB Stepside, 250,pwr disc brake and tilt pwr steering, 5 spd tranny, HEI,Accel coil,K&N filter,Seat from a later truck with built in seatbelts, front and rear sway bars, moved gas tank to under the bed, headman hedders, new chrome bumpers,one wire alternator,Weber k550cub carburator...WORK IN PROGRESS, Freeland MI , Just bought a 72 Jimmy!!!!!!!!!!!

03-20-2005, 11:25 PM	#6
dmec Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: yucaipa ca Posts: 580	i agree with the t5 swap. i have been running a t5 behind a 300hp 350 for 5 years with no problems. just use everything from doner car. bellhousing and hydraulic clutch. just make sure it is from a v8 engine. the s10 t5 is weaker than the camaro/firebird. Last edited by dmec; 03-20-2005 at 11:28 PM.

03-20-2005, 11:59 PM	#8
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,376	Hey, 69 longhorn, what kinda gas mileage do you get with your current setup? __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

03-20-2005, 12:07 AM	#3
Gary Lee fixer of 72 GMC LWB Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newnan GA Posts: 111	yeah i am sure it rocks, but can't justify the $$$ for this tired old truck at the moment... I am on a cheap beer pocketbook on this project... 40 oz pocketbook is more like it...

03-21-2005, 12:04 AM	#10
jcueckert13 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Edgewood New Mexico Posts: 2,088	has anyone done the nv 4500 swap? i am looking at that for my gmc because i still want a decent low gear with an over drive. __________________ 1990 subaru legcy (daily driver) 1987 Toyota 4runner (weekend toy) 1968 C30 flatbed dually 1970 C10 longbed stepside (in pieces) 1976 Dodge Dart 1963 Dodge Dart

03-21-2005, 02:15 PM	#11
Gary Lee fixer of 72 GMC LWB Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newnan GA Posts: 111	I don't think the fuel economy is the issue as It will take tens of thousands to recoup the costs, but here in Ga on the interstate 70mph is the limit but 80-85 is the flow of traffic... The rpms necessary to cruise at that speed is hard on an older engine...

03-21-2005, 06:11 PM	#13
jcueckert13 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Edgewood New Mexico Posts: 2,088	if you go with a t-5 get the world class t5 because the non world class that came in the s10s will not hold up to anything bigger than a 4.3 v6 __________________ 1990 subaru legcy (daily driver) 1987 Toyota 4runner (weekend toy) 1968 C30 flatbed dually 1970 C10 longbed stepside (in pieces) 1976 Dodge Dart 1963 Dodge Dart



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