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bagged69c10 · 08-12-2006, 10:26 PM

Ive seen where people have just stuck 2x4 inside thier frame rails and cut the bottom off. Is that all I would have to do to mine? Im in the slow process of Zing it 3.5 inches right now and pretty much just have a bare frame so if Im gonna bodydrop it nows the time. I would appreciate any help.

7deuce · 08-13-2006, 02:28 AM

Dude you should be hammered with the 2x4 and a 3.5 Z. I did the same with the 2x4 and only Z'd mine 2 3/4" and you see how it lays. If you want to lay door, ask Camaro Thunder hes the man in that area.

bagged69c10 · 08-13-2006, 12:09 PM

Im just trying to make sure that is going to work. I was about to stock floor it and remembered seeing this done. I guess technically its stock flooring, but you know what I mean. What size wheels are you running?

bagged69c10 · 08-13-2006, 12:16 PM

I just read your thread and you said you also done a 1.5" crossmember drop. I will if I have to I guess, we'll see.

7deuce · 08-13-2006, 04:24 PM

NO, DONT DO A 1.5" All of your stock stearing will hit. Do a 1 1/8" and youll only have to do a little grinding her and there. Unless your going to run a rack & pinion.

XXL · 08-13-2006, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 7deuce

NO, DONT DO A 1.5" All of your stock stearing will hit. Do a 1 1/8" and youll only have to do a little grinding her and there. Unless your going to run a rack & pinion.

1.5" does not require a rack. Steering can be resolved with a some swivel joints and a Heim joint.

bagged69c10 · 08-13-2006, 08:45 PM

Not going to run a rack. I guess Ill just wing it and hope it turns out.

7deuce · 08-13-2006, 09:24 PM

Let me know how it turns out.

7deuce · 08-13-2006, 11:00 PM

I was talkin about the tie rods comming across the front of the Xmember. I had to grind the lip of the front of it so the tie rods wouldnt hit. I was getting ready to do my Xmember drop and someone on the thread told me when they did a 1.5 they ran into all kinds of problems and ended up shimming the Xmember down with washers. But I cant say for sure about the 1.5 drop. I know tht its REAL tight with a 1.125. Has anyone done a 1.5?

XXL · 08-14-2006, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 7deuce

Has anyone done a 1.5?

That's what mine is in the pic above.

SCOTI · 08-14-2006, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 7deuce

I was talkin about the tie rods comming across the front of the Xmember. I had to grind the lip of the front of it so the tie rods wouldnt hit. I was getting ready to do my Xmember drop and someone on the thread told me when they did a 1.5 they ran into all kinds of problems and ended up shimming the Xmember down with washers. But I cant say for sure about the 1.5 drop. I know tht its REAL tight with a 1.125. Has anyone done a 1.5?

That was me. There's no way a 1.5" notch would work w/my combination of parts. I had to grind alot off the front lip of the crossmember & whittle some off of the u-bolt 'perches' as well just to get a 1 1/8" notch to work. It only worked after shimming w/some 1/4" spacers.

*culookn* · 08-14-2006, 01:00 AM

do you have any pics of the cross member drop?

bagged69c10 · 08-14-2006, 04:39 PM

Im sure I wouldnt have to do that much since I did a 3.5" Z. How much did all those steering U joints and shafts run ya and where did ya get em if you dont mind me asking?

XXL · 08-14-2006, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bagged69c10

Im sure I wouldnt have to do that much since I did a 3.5" Z. How much did all those steering U joints and shafts run ya and where did ya get em if you dont mind me asking?

About $265 for all, from Borgeson

http://www.borgeson.com/

DM310 · 08-18-2006, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by XXL

About $265 for all, from Borgeson

http://www.borgeson.com/

Do you have the p/n's?

XXL · 08-18-2006, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DM310

Do you have the p/n's?

No. Give them a call and tell them what you're doing. They are THE experts at this. They'll know exactly what you need.

*culookn* · 08-14-2006, 06:30 PM

to raise the cross member do you have to section the part where it would come up into the frame? just need a pic for a reference.

slammd72 · 08-16-2006, 11:42 PM

the way im doing my stock floor is putting 2x4 inside the frame rails, lowering the body mounts, then cutting the TOP off. but then again my frame is a one ton frame, so under the cab it is 8" tall.

7deuce · 08-17-2006, 01:24 AM

Are you going to cut the top or the bottom off the frame?

Rokcrln · 08-17-2006, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 7deuce

Are you going to cut the top or the bottom off the frame?

He is cutting off the top. Notice his body mount location!
Also my 71 is BODY DROPPED 2" (done 7yrs ago) and what a pain! I am 6' tall and now most seats are too tall and I am up in the head liner. I need to find short bottom seats. I would go with a frame shave if I were to do one again.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

XXL · 08-17-2006, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rokcrln

Also my 71 is BODY DROPPED 2" (done 7yrs ago) and what a pain! I am 6' tall and now most seats are too tall and I am up in the head liner.

You're not slouching enough!

I'm 6' 3" and am pretty comfortable in my chop top cab. Seat is stock (like "really ugly and old" stock

). When I get the seat rebuilt one of these days, I will have the bottom and back thinned out a little-- modern pad is a lot better, and takes less, than the old wool stuff.

67Fleet · 08-17-2006, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 7deuce

Are you going to cut the top or the bottom off the frame?

lol, cutting the bottom off wouldn't really accomplish much other than a lot of wasted time.

Rokcrln, what is a frame "shave"??

Rokcrln · 08-19-2006, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 67Fleet

Rokcrln, what is a frame "shave"??

Just what guys are talking about cutting or shaving the bottom of the frame off. Yes shaving the top off will do the same thing but with alot more work, such as re-mounting the entire body, bumpers and related items. Shaving the bottom off still leaves the front X member to deal with and the drive shaft "hoop". But I think this is alot less work. My self I would shave the bottom off 1.5" add a drop member form Porter ( more clearance, power rack, narrowed track width and great looks) then back half it. Then 18/20 or 20/22 and a smooth flat road

Kevin
LFD Inc.

7deuce · 08-17-2006, 09:19 AM

How do you figure cutting the bottoms off is a waist of time? I ran 2x4 in the frame rails cut the bottoms off, didnt have to move the body mounts and didnt have to deal with all the frame rolls on the bottom lip that hang you up from layin flat. And the truck was layinin on the rockers. I also only did a 2 3/4 Z and I have 1 1/16 before the front X member and a arms hit the ground.

blt2rail · 08-17-2006, 12:55 PM

cutting the bottom off is atotal waste of time you cant get a stock floor body drop with out it and mine lays the door with stock floor and cut down frame and z up font

08-12-2006, 10:26 PM	#1
bagged69c10 soon to be bagged64sub Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: DFW-currently phoenix Posts: 635	Questions about body dropping Ive seen where people have just stuck 2x4 inside thier frame rails and cut the bottom off. Is that all I would have to do to mine? Im in the slow process of Zing it 3.5 inches right now and pretty much just have a bare frame so if Im gonna bodydrop it nows the time. I would appreciate any help. __________________ 1969 c-10, bagged, Zd, 20" Boyds SOLD! 1964 Suburban COMING SOON Build threadhttp://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=304726 1965 c-10 long bed 1993 Sierra x-cab 1999 tahoe-4/5 on 22s 2005 Chevy work truck

08-13-2006, 02:28 AM	#2
7deuce Sold! 2 days after finished Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 327	Re: Questions about body dropping Dude you should be hammered with the 2x4 and a 3.5 Z. I did the same with the 2x4 and only Z'd mine 2 3/4" and you see how it lays. If you want to lay door, ask Camaro Thunder hes the man in that area.

08-13-2006, 12:09 PM	#3
bagged69c10 soon to be bagged64sub Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: DFW-currently phoenix Posts: 635	Re: Questions about body dropping Im just trying to make sure that is going to work. I was about to stock floor it and remembered seeing this done. I guess technically its stock flooring, but you know what I mean. What size wheels are you running? __________________ 1969 c-10, bagged, Zd, 20" Boyds SOLD! 1964 Suburban COMING SOON Build threadhttp://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=304726 1965 c-10 long bed 1993 Sierra x-cab 1999 tahoe-4/5 on 22s 2005 Chevy work truck

08-13-2006, 12:16 PM	#4
bagged69c10 soon to be bagged64sub Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: DFW-currently phoenix Posts: 635	Re: Questions about body dropping I just read your thread and you said you also done a 1.5" crossmember drop. I will if I have to I guess, we'll see. __________________ 1969 c-10, bagged, Zd, 20" Boyds SOLD! 1964 Suburban COMING SOON Build threadhttp://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=304726 1965 c-10 long bed 1993 Sierra x-cab 1999 tahoe-4/5 on 22s 2005 Chevy work truck

08-13-2006, 04:24 PM	#5
7deuce Sold! 2 days after finished Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 327	Re: Questions about body dropping NO, DONT DO A 1.5" All of your stock stearing will hit. Do a 1 1/8" and youll only have to do a little grinding her and there. Unless your going to run a rack & pinion.

08-13-2006, 08:45 PM	#7
bagged69c10 soon to be bagged64sub Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: DFW-currently phoenix Posts: 635	Re: Questions about body dropping Not going to run a rack. I guess Ill just wing it and hope it turns out. __________________ 1969 c-10, bagged, Zd, 20" Boyds SOLD! 1964 Suburban COMING SOON Build threadhttp://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=304726 1965 c-10 long bed 1993 Sierra x-cab 1999 tahoe-4/5 on 22s 2005 Chevy work truck

08-13-2006, 09:24 PM	#8
7deuce Sold! 2 days after finished Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 327	Re: Questions about body dropping Let me know how it turns out.

08-13-2006, 11:00 PM	#9
7deuce Sold! 2 days after finished Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 327	Re: Questions about body dropping I was talkin about the tie rods comming across the front of the Xmember. I had to grind the lip of the front of it so the tie rods wouldnt hit. I was getting ready to do my Xmember drop and someone on the thread told me when they did a 1.5 they ran into all kinds of problems and ended up shimming the Xmember down with washers. But I cant say for sure about the 1.5 drop. I know tht its REAL tight with a 1.125. Has anyone done a 1.5?

08-14-2006, 01:00 AM	#12
culookn Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: nj Posts: 194	Re: Questions about body dropping do you have any pics of the cross member drop?

08-14-2006, 04:39 PM	#13
bagged69c10 soon to be bagged64sub Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: DFW-currently phoenix Posts: 635	Re: Questions about body dropping Im sure I wouldnt have to do that much since I did a 3.5" Z. How much did all those steering U joints and shafts run ya and where did ya get em if you dont mind me asking? __________________ 1969 c-10, bagged, Zd, 20" Boyds SOLD! 1964 Suburban COMING SOON Build threadhttp://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=304726 1965 c-10 long bed 1993 Sierra x-cab 1999 tahoe-4/5 on 22s 2005 Chevy work truck

08-14-2006, 06:30 PM	#17
culookn Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: nj Posts: 194	Re: Questions about body dropping to raise the cross member do you have to section the part where it would come up into the frame? just need a pic for a reference.

08-16-2006, 11:42 PM	#18
slammd72 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 225	Re: Questions about body dropping the way im doing my stock floor is putting 2x4 inside the frame rails, lowering the body mounts, then cutting the TOP off. but then again my frame is a one ton frame, so under the cab it is 8" tall. Attached Images __________________ 88 shortbed crewcab currently getting a sfbd 4 1/4" FREE HERE

08-17-2006, 01:24 AM	#19
7deuce Sold! 2 days after finished Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 327	Re: Questions about body dropping Are you going to cut the top or the bottom off the frame?

08-17-2006, 09:19 AM	#24
7deuce Sold! 2 days after finished Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 327	Re: Questions about body dropping How do you figure cutting the bottoms off is a waist of time? I ran 2x4 in the frame rails cut the bottoms off, didnt have to move the body mounts and didnt have to deal with all the frame rolls on the bottom lip that hang you up from layin flat. And the truck was layinin on the rockers. I also only did a 2 3/4 Z and I have 1 1/16 before the front X member and a arms hit the ground.

08-17-2006, 12:55 PM	#25
blt2rail land of the free ya right Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: palmdale ca Posts: 29	Re: Questions about body dropping cutting the bottom off is atotal waste of time you cant get a stock floor body drop with out it and mine lays the door with stock floor and cut down frame and z up font __________________ 73 c10 body droped bagged zed frame 20s 2link 350,350 03 dodge crew cab 4x4 cummins banks 6 gun 4 in exhaust 4in lift 35s 16.5 5th wheel hitch xm linex 33 foot weekend warrior 06 chrysler pacifica (wifes)on 19s 00 xr 650 supermotard for sale$$$$ 98 honda accord (commuter)



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