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super72bb · 01-13-2006, 02:31 AM

I am about to install my headliner. The truck has been repainted and I am wondering what the best adhesive is for the task. Just plain ol' contact cement???

I was also interested to know what was the best product for sound proofing? I see dynamat is common can anyone suggest a better product?

Curt

shifty · 01-13-2006, 03:27 AM

Brown Bread is another product for sound deadening which has come highly recommended in the past.

For any fabric adhesion as with a headliner, I would use a heavy duty upholstery stray-on glue. Comes in a ratlle can (without the rattle). Use something that is industrial or professional grade.

72MARIO · 01-13-2006, 11:54 AM

3m Super 77

Longhorn Man · 01-13-2006, 12:48 PM

Mario, I tried that stuff and the headliner fell the next day.
What was your menthod of doing it?

70c10 · 01-13-2006, 01:42 PM

I personally use about a tube and a half of pure silicone in a caulk gun. It cures in 24 hours and is rated from -65° to 400°. It goes on clean and is easy to apply.:

1. Clean the ceiling with alcohol or something similar to remove grease or wax. 2. Lay the headliner on the seat ready to lift up into place.
3. Apply the caulk 2-3" from the edge around the perimeter. Apply an X from corner to corner inside the rectangle you made. Apply long beads lengthwise every 2-3". Press and twist into place. I like all the beads to be nice and fat so that the excess is forced into the ceiling grooves as well.
4. I use 2 spare factory door panels (with the ends running the same direction as the silicone) to wedge between the seat and ceiling to hold it up there. (It's like they were made for this purpose

). I lay a towel over the ends of the door panels to avoid making a crease in the headliner or seat even though they disappear pretty quickly.
5. Start applying the chrome trim. This helps to stabilize while silicone is curing.
6. Remove towels next day.

This is how I have been doing it for several trucks over the last few years with no problems

72MARIO · 01-13-2006, 01:25 PM

I sprayed each side let them tack off for 30-45 seconds and stick it. I never used it to hold a headliner up but the guy at the local upholstery(sp) shop said it really good stuff. I used it to cover the the corner filler plates behind the seat where my speakers are in speaker box material and there is no getting it off now.

How cold was it when you sprayed it ? Also was the roof wax free ?

70c10 · 01-13-2006, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 72MARIO

I sprayed each side let them tack off for 30-45 seconds and stick it. I never used it to hold a headliner up but the guy at the local upholstery(sp) shop said it really good stuff. I used it to cover the the corner filler plates behind the seat where my speakers are in speaker box material and there is no getting it off now.

How cold was it when you sprayed it ? Also was the roof wax free ?

I don't recommend 77 for a headliner at all. It's only rated to 120° and doesn't like humidity. The way you used it for the speakers is fine though.

Zonaman · 01-13-2006, 06:41 PM

I thought the chrome frame held it up- No?

70c10 · 01-13-2006, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zonaman

I thought the chrome frame held it up- No?

It helps hold it and acts as a decorative trim.

stllookn · 01-13-2006, 07:43 PM

Don't flame me for this since it is your truck and you can do what you please. I am sanding my cab and have spent about 3 hours on the headliner area where someone glued a piece of carpet headliner that I pulled off. If I could find the guy that did that...I would have words with him...LOL! I guess I like the clean look with paint. If you ever decide to run your truck without the headliner...removing that glue will be a big pain. I had to use a heat gun, DA sander and then hand sand the grooves...OUCH!

muddpile · 01-13-2006, 07:48 PM

I like the look of the bare roof alright, but it acts as a big noise reflector so I'll be installing a headliner. My question is, does the metal trim go on first, or the headliner center piece. Can I put a headliner in a non headliner truck? I will be buying the trim but making the center piece from cardboard and gluing material that matches my door panels to it. Has anyone ever done this?

01-13-2006, 02:31 AM	#1
super72bb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: calgary,Alberta,Canada Posts: 387	Interior help... I am about to install my headliner. The truck has been repainted and I am wondering what the best adhesive is for the task. Just plain ol' contact cement??? I was also interested to know what was the best product for sound proofing? I see dynamat is common can anyone suggest a better product? Curt __________________ 1972 CHEYENNE SUPER SWB BLACK. 402 BB, TH400, AIR, TILT, TACH, BUCKETS, CRUISE, AM/FM, 8 TRACK. My build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post7120181

01-13-2006, 03:27 AM	#2
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,376	Re: Interior help... Brown Bread is another product for sound deadening which has come highly recommended in the past. For any fabric adhesion as with a headliner, I would use a heavy duty upholstery stray-on glue. Comes in a ratlle can (without the rattle). Use something that is industrial or professional grade. __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

01-13-2006, 11:54 AM	#3
72MARIO Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Huntsville Ontario Canada Posts: 4,052	Re: Interior help... 3m Super 77 __________________ 1968 Suburban numbers matching all original truck now equipped with 6.0/4L80 on Accuair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=625017 1967 C/20 6.0/4L80 Roofing Truck 1990 V2500 Suburban "Plow Truck" 2005 TAHOE DD

01-13-2006, 12:48 PM	#4
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Interior help... Mario, I tried that stuff and the headliner fell the next day. What was your menthod of doing it?

01-13-2006, 01:42 PM	#5
70c10 67-72 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The TAX State! Posts: 7,857	Re: Interior help... I personally use about a tube and a half of pure silicone in a caulk gun. It cures in 24 hours and is rated from -65° to 400°. It goes on clean and is easy to apply.: 1. Clean the ceiling with alcohol or something similar to remove grease or wax. 2. Lay the headliner on the seat ready to lift up into place. 3. Apply the caulk 2-3" from the edge around the perimeter. Apply an X from corner to corner inside the rectangle you made. Apply long beads lengthwise every 2-3". Press and twist into place. I like all the beads to be nice and fat so that the excess is forced into the ceiling grooves as well. 4. I use 2 spare factory door panels (with the ends running the same direction as the silicone) to wedge between the seat and ceiling to hold it up there. (It's like they were made for this purpose ). I lay a towel over the ends of the door panels to avoid making a crease in the headliner or seat even though they disappear pretty quickly. 5. Start applying the chrome trim. This helps to stabilize while silicone is curing. 6. Remove towels next day. This is how I have been doing it for several trucks over the last few years with no problems __________________ Jim 1970 C/10 Fleetside w/Ghost Flames Lowered 4.5" front and 4" rear (Raked) 355/350 Turbo w/shift kit 10" Redneck Performance Verter w/2500 stall Hooker Super Comps part#2808-1 Performer RPM Air-Gap 12 Bolt w/3:73 gears- Eaton Posi Comp Cams XE262 with 1.6 Crane Energizers, Road Demon 625 and Brodix IK 180 heads

01-13-2006, 01:25 PM	#6
72MARIO Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Huntsville Ontario Canada Posts: 4,052	Re: Interior help... I sprayed each side let them tack off for 30-45 seconds and stick it. I never used it to hold a headliner up but the guy at the local upholstery(sp) shop said it really good stuff. I used it to cover the the corner filler plates behind the seat where my speakers are in speaker box material and there is no getting it off now. How cold was it when you sprayed it ? Also was the roof wax free ? __________________ 1968 Suburban numbers matching all original truck now equipped with 6.0/4L80 on Accuair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=625017 1967 C/20 6.0/4L80 Roofing Truck 1990 V2500 Suburban "Plow Truck" 2005 TAHOE DD

01-13-2006, 06:41 PM	#8
Zonaman Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Chandler, AZ Posts: 519	Re: Interior help... I thought the chrome frame held it up- No? __________________ 69 C-10 LWB, 350, 700r4, 3.73 posi-traction, front disc brakes. Built for the desert- She can take the heat! Vivat Rex Chevus! Last edited by Zonaman; 01-13-2006 at 06:45 PM.

01-13-2006, 07:43 PM	#10
stllookn Saving 1 truck at a time! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kent, WA Posts: 6,465	Re: Interior help... Don't flame me for this since it is your truck and you can do what you please. I am sanding my cab and have spent about 3 hours on the headliner area where someone glued a piece of carpet headliner that I pulled off. If I could find the guy that did that...I would have words with him...LOL! I guess I like the clean look with paint. If you ever decide to run your truck without the headliner...removing that glue will be a big pain. I had to use a heat gun, DA sander and then hand sand the grooves...OUCH! __________________ '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 400/TH400 '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 468/TH400w/buckets '72 C20 Halfhorn (Longhorn w/o cab and front clip) '69 Flxible Cruiser (look up ugly in the dictionary)

01-13-2006, 07:48 PM	#11
muddpile Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 1,371	Re: Interior help... I like the look of the bare roof alright, but it acts as a big noise reflector so I'll be installing a headliner. My question is, does the metal trim go on first, or the headliner center piece. Can I put a headliner in a non headliner truck? I will be buying the trim but making the center piece from cardboard and gluing material that matches my door panels to it. Has anyone ever done this? __________________ 1964 Chevy Short Fleet: Tornado 1972 Chevy C10: Fast Orange Secondaries Wide Open



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