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**PICKMUP** · 03-30-2009, 09:13 PM

I went to the PC shop to save me some time & labor on these. The areas in the center of the wheels ALL built up & looked "splatered". After five weeks, they didn't have them fixed, so I had to just go get them. What a mess!. Had to commercially reblast, torch, scrape & blast again to get most off.
Covered the rough areas with two-part 3M duramix self leveling seam sealer. That stuff is great & tough. See in pics.
Painted with E-primer & two part PPG Concept. Nice paint, but way too much work on these.

jholley · 03-30-2009, 09:20 PM

My powdercoater said that was common with wheels. Something to do with brake dust.

**PICKMUP** · 03-30-2009, 09:24 PM

Should look good on a Cheyenne with white center section.

CG · 03-30-2009, 09:30 PM

Those look great Frank. I love the white steel wheel look. I have 8 extra 15x8 6 lug wheels now. Never know when I might need em =)

Good reason to go with paint over powder coat too.

**PICKMUP** · 03-30-2009, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CG

Those look great Frank. I love the white steel wheel look. I have 8 extra 15x8 6 lug wheels now. Never know when I might need em =)

Good reason to go with paint over powder coat too.

These 15x8 wheels are hard to find! The deep offset with the little dog dish caps looks good.
I got so tired of waiting for these, that I stuck on a set of plain old ralleys-LOL, just to get rid of the black rattle-can set I was running.

big_al_71 · 03-30-2009, 10:02 PM

I am not too excited about powder coating I still prefer paint better.

SCOTI · 03-30-2009, 11:43 PM

Dang it guys!! Quit hording all the 15x8 6-lug steelies. . . ..... some of us need a couple

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tcb-1 · 03-30-2009, 09:37 PM

oh that brings back bad memories. had my 15 x 8's powdercoated and the seam where the rim is welded to the center was bubbled. an absolute mess.

it will be paint next time I EVER do that again.....

BUT WOW, your rims turned out NICE!!!!

OARNGESI · 03-31-2009, 05:15 AM

Those look great

Tx Firefighter · 03-31-2009, 09:40 AM

Easy there fellas. Powdercoating is not evil.

Here is what I do,

160 a set for argent with clear...

120 a set for single stage white...

Second rate jobs don't leave my shop. If I screw something up, I srip it and re-do it until it is right. It all depends on the man and what kind of work he puts out. I only do 100 percent and not a bit less. My reputation is important to me. Please read my feedback in the review forum. Lots of happy people.

Also, my turnaround time for a set of wheels would be anywhere from 2 days to 1 week at the very maximum.

I am a custom powdercoater. I do not do production or volume work. People who do volume work tend to scrimp on the needed effort to turn out perfection so they can get them in and out as fast as possible.

My point of all of this, is don't hate the powdercoat, hate the second rate bastard that turns out bad work.

G'day,
Kevin

heavy71chevy · 03-31-2009, 09:59 AM

Very well said tx

stllookn · 03-31-2009, 10:31 AM

Quote:

I have 8 extra 15x8 6 lug wheels now.

We know where you live....and where your pigeons roost!!!!!

Nice job Frank! Those look outstanding!

blakeaz33 · 03-31-2009, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tx Firefighter

Easy there fellas. Powdercoating is not evil.

Here is what I do,

160 a set for argent with clear...

120 a set for single stage white...

Second rate jobs don't leave my shop. If I screw something up, I srip it and re-do it until it is right. It all depends on the man and what kind of work he puts out. I only do 100 percent and not a bit less. My reputation is important to me. Please read my feedback in the review forum. Lots of happy people.

Also, my turnaround time for a set of wheels would be anywhere from 2 days to 1 week at the very maximum.

I am a custom powdercoater. I do not do production or volume work. People who do volume work tend to scrimp on the needed effort to turn out perfection so they can get them in and out as fast as possible.

My point of all of this, is don't hate the powdercoat, hate the second rate bastard that turns out bad work.

G'day,
Kevin

Great looking work!! - good pricing also - wish you were closer. I have 5 stock steels I would like the argent and clear on for my 68 but may just settle for blasting and painting.

Gray Ghost · 04-01-2009, 12:52 AM

Exactly how I do business. I prefer quality work to half ass.

72BlckButy · 04-01-2009, 08:07 AM

Send them to Kevin and you won't have any issues...

cdowns · 04-01-2009, 09:01 AM

over the years i've spent many thousands on powdercoating and never been given back a job that poor//GET A NEW POWDERCOATER

lyrikz · 04-01-2009, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PICKMUP

I went to the PC shop to save me some time & labor on these. The areas in the center of the wheels ALL built up & looked "splatered". After five weeks, they didn't have them fixed, so I had to just go get them. What a mess!. Had to commercially reblast, torch, scrape & blast again to get most off.
Covered the rough areas with two-part 3M duramix self leveling seam sealer. That stuff is great & tough. See in pics.
Painted with E-primer & two part PPG Concept. Nice paint, but way too much work on these.

That 3m sealer is AWESOME isnt it.. Just installed it on my truck. LOVE IT.

joe231 · 04-01-2009, 09:58 AM

I was just going to add.....I had a bad powder-coating experience and learned a hard lesson.....don't use any one unless you get a good referral...I picked one close by from the phone book and really regretted it.

Tx Firefighter comes highly recommended, even if it cost extra to ship the parts, the finished product is worth it!

**special-K** · 04-01-2009, 10:36 AM

Anyone can mess up a coating job,paint or powdercoat.It can happen to anyone.It`s how you handle your screw up that matters.
Powdercoat isn`t the immaculate coating some like to think it is.It`s great,but not flawless.I`ve had many many parts coated for a few decades and have seen alot.I`ve only used ISPA in Baltimore,who have been industrial coaters since 1947,mostly for Navy,NASA,and specialized high dollar work and Metal Refinishing Systems/Maryland Industrial Coaters/Maryland Perormance Coatings(Ceramics) in Sykesville,MD.They are two of the most experienced coaters there is and there have been mishaps.But,I have never carried a part away I wasn`t satisfied with.Fixing a screw up should be top priority in a reputable business.

m6z · 04-01-2009, 11:44 AM

On the first pict. Is the white area on the wheel the seam sealer you talked about later in your post? If so I wouldn't expect the power coat to stick to seam sealer. Either way the power coater should stand behind their work.

jamieg · 04-01-2009, 11:49 AM

My point of all of this, is don't hate the powdercoat, hate the second rate bastard that turns out bad work.

if you werent 5000 miles south of me i would probably work you into an early retirement

**PICKMUP** · 04-01-2009, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m6z

On the first pict. Is the white area on the wheel the seam sealer you talked about later in your post? If so I wouldn't expect the power coat to stick to seam sealer. Either way the power coater should stand behind their work.

The first pic shows the left over PC after hours of work to remove it. Notice how smooth the area is after applying the seam sealer. They had to be painted because the PC would never recoat correctly over the left over mess!

**michael bustamante** · 04-01-2009, 02:07 PM

are those the infamous spare tire 15x8 steel wheels that only came with the blazers and suburbans?

**PICKMUP** · 04-01-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by michael bustamante

are those the infamous spare tire 15x8 steel wheels that only came with the blazers and suburbans?

Yup...and military CUCV subs/blzrs and a few real cheap models of civilian 4x4s.

I have one extra set available in the wheels & tires section at our store..."For Sale"...pick up only! (no shipping---too expensive).

truckintexas · 04-02-2009, 11:49 PM

I have had TX Firefighter do several things for me...............all top rate work. I especially like my freshly coated Stock Air Cleaner and Tilt Column. Grear work at a great price. I'm lucky, I guess. I finally figured out we only lived 20 miles apart.

03-30-2009, 09:13 PM	#1
PICKMUP "Trucks with Class" Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: OLYMPIA, WA, USA Posts: 8,148	Powder Coater Messed Up My Wheels! I went to the PC shop to save me some time & labor on these. The areas in the center of the wheels ALL built up & looked "splatered". After five weeks, they didn't have them fixed, so I had to just go get them. What a mess!. Had to commercially reblast, torch, scrape & blast again to get most off. Covered the rough areas with two-part 3M duramix self leveling seam sealer. That stuff is great & tough. See in pics. Painted with E-primer & two part PPG Concept. Nice paint, but way too much work on these. Attached Images

03-30-2009, 09:20 PM	#2
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03-30-2009, 09:30 PM	#4
CG BlahBlahBlah Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wa. Posts: 19,995	Re: Powder Coater Messed Up My Wheels! Those look great Frank. I love the white steel wheel look. I have 8 extra 15x8 6 lug wheels now. Never know when I might need em =) Good reason to go with paint over powder coat too. __________________ … … … … … … … … ... … … … … … … … … … … … Last edited by CG; 03-30-2009 at 09:32 PM.

03-30-2009, 10:02 PM	#6
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03-30-2009, 11:43 PM	#7
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,037	Re: Powder Coater Messed Up My Wheels! Dang it guys!! Quit hording all the 15x8 6-lug steelies. . . ..... some of us need a couple . __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

03-30-2009, 09:37 PM	#8
tcb-1 Nothing to see here..... Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Shawnee, KS Posts: 4,625	Re: Powder Coater Messed Up My Wheels! oh that brings back bad memories. had my 15 x 8's powdercoated and the seam where the rim is welded to the center was bubbled. an absolute mess. it will be paint next time I EVER do that again..... BUT WOW, your rims turned out NICE!!!! __________________ Doug THANK YOU to our American Soldiers & Veterans - POW MIA "You will NEVER be forgotten". The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson

03-31-2009, 05:15 AM	#9
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03-31-2009, 09:40 AM	#10
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	Re: Powder Coater Messed Up My Wheels! Easy there fellas. Powdercoating is not evil. Here is what I do, 160 a set for argent with clear... 120 a set for single stage white... Second rate jobs don't leave my shop. If I screw something up, I srip it and re-do it until it is right. It all depends on the man and what kind of work he puts out. I only do 100 percent and not a bit less. My reputation is important to me. Please read my feedback in the review forum. Lots of happy people. Also, my turnaround time for a set of wheels would be anywhere from 2 days to 1 week at the very maximum. I am a custom powdercoater. I do not do production or volume work. People who do volume work tend to scrimp on the needed effort to turn out perfection so they can get them in and out as fast as possible. My point of all of this, is don't hate the powdercoat, hate the second rate bastard that turns out bad work. G'day, Kevin __________________ I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin

03-31-2009, 09:59 AM	#11
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04-01-2009, 12:52 AM	#14
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04-01-2009, 09:58 AM	#18
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: Powder Coater Messed Up My Wheels! I was just going to add.....I had a bad powder-coating experience and learned a hard lesson.....don't use any one unless you get a good referral...I picked one close by from the phone book and really regretted it. Tx Firefighter comes highly recommended, even if it cost extra to ship the parts, the finished product is worth it! __________________ *CHEVY ONLY*

04-01-2009, 10:36 AM	#19
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04-01-2009, 11:44 AM	#20
m6z Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Pittsburg, KS Posts: 2,466	Re: Powder Coater Messed Up My Wheels! On the first pict. Is the white area on the wheel the seam sealer you talked about later in your post? If so I wouldn't expect the power coat to stick to seam sealer. Either way the power coater should stand behind their work. __________________ Doug Looking for a 67-72 short bed driver..... Last edited by m6z; 04-01-2009 at 11:45 AM.

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