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Hawker7 · 12-24-2008, 08:55 PM

Is the 260 HP 350 crate engine from Summit a good motor to get? Should I be concerned about it having the 2 piece rear seal ( I have heard they leak), and not having a roller cam? I'm going to put it in my 72 and will be using it just for around town. Summit has it for around $1,550.

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...3&autoview=sku

msgross · 12-24-2008, 09:02 PM

make sure you have the rest of the parts figured in as well... intake, carb, HEI, brackets, alternator, fuel pump, balancer, pulleys, wires, plugs, flywheel/flexplate etc...

As far as the rear main? well they had two piece seals forever and they will leak someday, but not for a long while I bet...

sdailey has that engine...

dieselarmy13 · 12-24-2008, 09:22 PM

Probably one of the best crate motors you can buy for the money. They might not be high HP screamers, but they get around good and have a waranty. As far as the rear main goes, I wouldn't worry about it.

ChaseDale3and8 · 12-24-2008, 09:34 PM

I've had a lot of small blocks over the years, and I never had any major problems with the rear main seal leaking on the 2 pc rear mains. The good thing about them is that if you ever have a problem they can be changed with the engine still in the truck versus having to pull either the engine or trans to change the seal on a one piece block. I think for what you want to use the engine for, it's a pretty good deal. I really wouldn't be concerned that it's the older style 2 pc seal at all if it were me. ...Joe

LuckyHenriksen · 12-24-2008, 09:29 PM

ya cant beat them for the money. do they come with an intake?

dieselarmy13 · 12-24-2008, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LuckyHenriksen

ya cant beat them for the money. do they come with an intake?

No, they don't come with anything really. Just meant to be a repalcement engine. My ol man had one in one of his work vans and it was a damn good engine. It would pull a 4 ton Bobcat no problem. That same load wouldn't happen with the 305 that it replaced.

Hawker7 · 12-24-2008, 09:47 PM

Thanks guys. Looks like a good deal. Only other thing I noticed is that our trucks aren't listed for it to be covered by the 3 year warranty. Not sure why that is?

LuckyHenriksen · 12-24-2008, 09:51 PM

I thought the warranty was just for the motor, why does it matter what vehicle it goes in?

dieselarmy13 · 12-24-2008, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuckyHenriksen

I thought the warranty was just for the motor, why does it matter what vehicle it goes in?

Good question. I'm sure there is a good explanation for it though.

Hawker7 · 12-24-2008, 10:08 PM

These are the vehicles it lists for the warranty:

When installed in the following vehicles, these engines carry a 36-month or 100,000-mile warranty:

* 1975-78 Chevy/GMC pickup (C1)
* 1975 Chevy/GMC Blazer, Jimmy (C1)
* 1975 Chevy/GMC van (G1)
* 1978-80 Chevy/GMC van (G2,3)
* 1979-85 Chevy/GMC pickup, Suburban, Blazer, Jimmy (K1)
* 1979-80 Chevy/GMC pickup, Suburban, Blazer, Jimmy (CK1)
* 1979-80 Chevy/GMC Suburban (CK 1, 2)
* 1979-85 Chevy/GMC Suburban (CK 1)
* 1980-85 Chevy/GMC van (G1, 2, 3)
* 1981-82 Chevy/GMC pickup (CK1)
* 1983-85 Chevy Caprice Classic, Impala (B)
* 1973-80 Chevy Corvette (Y)
* 1984-85 Pontiac Parisienne (B)

If this engine is installed in any other application, it has a 12 month or 12,000-mile warranty.

kookykrispy · 12-24-2008, 10:08 PM

Just helped my buddy install that engine in his 72 Chevelle last month. It is perfect! I would definitely recommend that motor and at $1500 its a great value.

It does not come with an intake or water pump, but does include oil pan, valve covers, timing cover. It has multiple holes for motor mounts and accessories so you can use it as a replacement for pretty much anything. It runs fine on the cheap gas and makes good power. Very mild cam, would be good for a truck. Torque is 300 ft-lbs! What is cool is everything is NEW from GM, not a rebuild.

OARNGESI · 12-24-2008, 10:29 PM

How do they even know what you put it in

sdailey · 12-24-2008, 10:37 PM

The 260 should be a good motor for you. I went with the next one up at 290hp. I bought mine from Scoggin Dickey out in Texas and they had free shipping. At the time I bought mine I paid @$1700.

Here's the website....http://www.sdpc2000.com/

Like msgross said, these motors come bare bones with no accessories at all so keep that in mind as well when figuring your overall cost.

Good luck with your decision.

68Stepbed · 12-26-2008, 01:21 PM

go to your local dealer and get a price from them before buying from Summit. I know our local dealer can get a better price than anyone else. They got my dad the 290HP version for $1400 with tax. The same engine from Summit is $1900!

dhaymaker · 12-26-2008, 01:31 PM

I put the 290 HP version in one of my trucks. Great value at $1,470.00 - bought from Summit during one of their sales!

LuckyHenriksen · 12-26-2008, 02:06 PM

Sounds like a good deal to me! Definite;y check local dealers, then you dont have to deal with shipping

Hawker7 · 12-26-2008, 02:27 PM

I called some local dealers, and they wanted $2,000 for the crate motor. Most places have them $1,500 and $150 to ship. Would have to pay tax at the dealer. Seems as though the GM dealers don't need the business.

chrislehr · 12-26-2008, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawker7

I called some local dealers, and they wanted $2,000 for the crate motor. Most places have them $1,500 and $150 to ship. Would have to pay tax at the dealer. Seems as though the GM dealers don't need the business.

How ironic!

LuckyHenriksen · 12-26-2008, 02:41 PM

Thats lame. Summit it is!

12-24-2008, 08:55 PM	#1
Hawker7 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 321	Crate Motor From Summit Is the 260 HP 350 crate engine from Summit a good motor to get? Should I be concerned about it having the 2 piece rear seal ( I have heard they leak), and not having a roller cam? I'm going to put it in my 72 and will be using it just for around town. Summit has it for around $1,550. http://store.summitracing.com/partde...3&autoview=sku

12-24-2008, 09:02 PM	#2
msgross Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central PA Posts: 12,201	Re: Crate Motor From Summit make sure you have the rest of the parts figured in as well... intake, carb, HEI, brackets, alternator, fuel pump, balancer, pulleys, wires, plugs, flywheel/flexplate etc... As far as the rear main? well they had two piece seals forever and they will leak someday, but not for a long while I bet... sdailey has that engine... __________________ The Garage: 1968 K-10 SWB - "Project Money Pit" 1996 Z-71 - "huntin rig" 1969 C-10 LWB (SOLD) "Project flip that truck or else" 1993 Passport, F@rd 1-ton (SOLD)"Project Cousin Eddie" My Garage Build "The 1,000 footer"

12-24-2008, 09:22 PM	#3
dieselarmy13 Phone's ringin Dude. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 1,426	Re: Crate Motor From Summit Probably one of the best crate motors you can buy for the money. They might not be high HP screamers, but they get around good and have a waranty. As far as the rear main goes, I wouldn't worry about it. __________________ I pitty the fool with only two headlights!! 2003 SILVERADO SS--THE NEW GIRL 1972 GMC--THE OLD GIRL

12-24-2008, 09:34 PM	#4
ChaseDale3and8 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Springfield Mo. Posts: 1,086	Re: Crate Motor From Summit I've had a lot of small blocks over the years, and I never had any major problems with the rear main seal leaking on the 2 pc rear mains. The good thing about them is that if you ever have a problem they can be changed with the engine still in the truck versus having to pull either the engine or trans to change the seal on a one piece block. I think for what you want to use the engine for, it's a pretty good deal. I really wouldn't be concerned that it's the older style 2 pc seal at all if it were me. ...Joe __________________ I'm not speedin'! I'm qualifyin'!

12-24-2008, 09:29 PM	#5
LuckyHenriksen Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sherwood Oregon Posts: 1,908	Re: Crate Motor From Summit ya cant beat them for the money. do they come with an intake? __________________ 1968 Yenko Chevy LWB 6.0L/TH400 3/4 Drop Senior Project Build Thread Here

12-24-2008, 09:47 PM	#7
Hawker7 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 321	Re: Crate Motor From Summit Thanks guys. Looks like a good deal. Only other thing I noticed is that our trucks aren't listed for it to be covered by the 3 year warranty. Not sure why that is?

12-24-2008, 09:51 PM	#8
LuckyHenriksen Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sherwood Oregon Posts: 1,908	Re: Crate Motor From Summit I thought the warranty was just for the motor, why does it matter what vehicle it goes in? __________________ 1968 Yenko Chevy LWB 6.0L/TH400 3/4 Drop Senior Project Build Thread Here

12-24-2008, 10:08 PM	#10
Hawker7 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 321	Re: Crate Motor From Summit These are the vehicles it lists for the warranty: When installed in the following vehicles, these engines carry a 36-month or 100,000-mile warranty: * 1975-78 Chevy/GMC pickup (C1) * 1975 Chevy/GMC Blazer, Jimmy (C1) * 1975 Chevy/GMC van (G1) * 1978-80 Chevy/GMC van (G2,3) * 1979-85 Chevy/GMC pickup, Suburban, Blazer, Jimmy (K1) * 1979-80 Chevy/GMC pickup, Suburban, Blazer, Jimmy (CK1) * 1979-80 Chevy/GMC Suburban (CK 1, 2) * 1979-85 Chevy/GMC Suburban (CK 1) * 1980-85 Chevy/GMC van (G1, 2, 3) * 1981-82 Chevy/GMC pickup (CK1) * 1983-85 Chevy Caprice Classic, Impala (B) * 1973-80 Chevy Corvette (Y) * 1984-85 Pontiac Parisienne (B) If this engine is installed in any other application, it has a 12 month or 12,000-mile warranty.

12-24-2008, 10:08 PM	#11
kookykrispy The Early Chevy Van Man Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 76	Re: Crate Motor From Summit Just helped my buddy install that engine in his 72 Chevelle last month. It is perfect! I would definitely recommend that motor and at $1500 its a great value. It does not come with an intake or water pump, but does include oil pan, valve covers, timing cover. It has multiple holes for motor mounts and accessories so you can use it as a replacement for pretty much anything. It runs fine on the cheap gas and makes good power. Very mild cam, would be good for a truck. Torque is 300 ft-lbs! What is cool is everything is NEW from GM, not a rebuild. __________________ 64 Chevy Van 65 GMC Handi-Van 99 2500 silverado 4x4 ext cab Last edited by kookykrispy; 12-24-2008 at 10:10 PM.

12-24-2008, 10:29 PM	#12
OARNGESI Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: CASA GRANDE AZ Posts: 4,276	Re: Crate Motor From Summit How do they even know what you put it in

12-24-2008, 10:37 PM	#13
sdailey The Few, The Proud Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ball Ground, Georgia Posts: 1,830	Re: Crate Motor From Summit The 260 should be a good motor for you. I went with the next one up at 290hp. I bought mine from Scoggin Dickey out in Texas and they had free shipping. At the time I bought mine I paid @$1700. Here's the website....http://www.sdpc2000.com/ Like msgross said, these motors come bare bones with no accessories at all so keep that in mind as well when figuring your overall cost. Good luck with your decision. __________________ Shannon Last edited by sdailey; 12-24-2008 at 10:44 PM.

12-26-2008, 01:21 PM	#14
68Stepbed Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 10-Uh-See Posts: 5,609	Re: Crate Motor From Summit go to your local dealer and get a price from them before buying from Summit. I know our local dealer can get a better price than anyone else. They got my dad the 290HP version for $1400 with tax. The same engine from Summit is $1900! __________________ Matt 68 C10 stepside, LS1/700R4, TCI Engineering suspension system

12-26-2008, 01:31 PM	#15
dhaymaker Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Peyton, CO Posts: 448	Re: Crate Motor From Summit I put the 290 HP version in one of my trucks. Great value at $1,470.00 - bought from Summit during one of their sales! __________________ don "The DRBMan" 2014 Audi A4 (The Wife's Daily Driver) 2017 HD Ultra (The Cruiser) 2003 HD Fatboy (The Ride) 2001 Chevy Suburban (Another back up!!) For the first time in forever, not a single 67-72 Chevy truck, Blazer, or Suburban on the property! Basically retired and getting the new Motorhome ready for some traveling. Doing a bit of work on the house getting it ready to sell! LOL!!

12-26-2008, 02:06 PM	#16
LuckyHenriksen Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sherwood Oregon Posts: 1,908	Re: Crate Motor From Summit Sounds like a good deal to me! Definite;y check local dealers, then you dont have to deal with shipping __________________ 1968 Yenko Chevy LWB 6.0L/TH400 3/4 Drop Senior Project Build Thread Here

12-26-2008, 02:27 PM	#17
Hawker7 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 321	Re: Crate Motor From Summit I called some local dealers, and they wanted $2,000 for the crate motor. Most places have them $1,500 and $150 to ship. Would have to pay tax at the dealer. Seems as though the GM dealers don't need the business.



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12-26-2008, 02:41 PM	#19
LuckyHenriksen Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sherwood Oregon Posts: 1,908	Re: Crate Motor From Summit Thats lame. Summit it is! __________________ 1968 Yenko Chevy LWB 6.0L/TH400 3/4 Drop Senior Project Build Thread Here

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