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**mongocanfly** · 11-14-2017, 07:40 PM

well this is the rebirth of my dads old 1957 International A120 4x4...dad has owned this truck since 1960 or so...that's when he bought his farm and saw the need for a truck..he went to a farm auction that had 3 of these trucks up for auction...dad bid up to his limit on all 3 and didn't win any..on his way to the parking lot a guy chased him down and wanted to know if he still wanted one of the trucks...he said well yeah that's why he was bidding...turns out the guy bought 2 of them and only wanted one so he let dad have one for his bid price..when he got it home my mom laughed and said the truck looked like it came over on the boat with Columbus. ..hence the knickname that's stuck ever since..
I'm trying to pull a fast one on him and mom and get his truck up and running without them knowing anything..
I've bought a donor truck for parts ..that and his truck will make one...I hope. .so here we go..

**mongocanfly** · 11-14-2017, 07:50 PM

right now I'm disassembling the donor truck at a friends shop...I can't do it in mine for fear that I may be found out before I'm ready...when the time comes I'm going to "steal" his truck for this build..this is the donor truck..

**mongocanfly** · 11-14-2017, 07:52 PM

ready for disassembly

**mongocanfly** · 11-14-2017, 07:57 PM

how's this for the back side of the grill support and grill and inside the fender wells...this truck is unbelievably solid and practically rust free...not bad for 60yrs old...original paint still under the fenderwells

**mongocanfly** · 11-14-2017, 08:01 PM

check out the nearly rust free fender bolts...hard to believe they've been in place for 60yrs

**mongocanfly** · 11-14-2017, 09:01 PM

couple of shots of the old 6 cyl...even its not all that dirty after 60yrs

**Advanced Design** · 11-14-2017, 09:54 PM

Wow, that truck is amazingly solid. It is always cool to see one so nice. Great plan and I'll be tagging along for the rest.

**mongocanfly** · 11-14-2017, 09:59 PM

thanks Doug...the more I take apart the more amazed I am that a truck could exist for that long and have so little rust...its defiantly not what I'm used to working with

**mongocanfly** · 11-14-2017, 11:54 PM

don't know why people hook log chains on bumpers but it is what it is...time to bust out the anvil and big hammer. ..both ends seem ok..if I can't "fix" the center I may cut it out and make a winch mount while keeping the ends..

Nut Case · 11-15-2017, 04:31 AM

mongocanfly

GOOD ON YOU!!!!! What a way to honor your dad....

This is going to be great, I'm in

Keep on keepin on

Nut Case

**mongocanfly** · 11-15-2017, 07:50 AM

thanks...dads 83 yrs young and mom is 79...I'm trying to get this on the road so they can get some enjoyment out of it...they still go wide open. ..they do a lot of volunteer work with the Alabama Baptist disaster relief not to mention all the other stuff they donate time and money to...and they raised us kids while both worked fulltime jobs....I figure its the least I can do...and save a classic old truck in the meantime...

jjzepplin · 11-15-2017, 08:57 AM

Holy moly! Where is the rust? What did they know then that we don't know now?

67ChevyRedneck · 11-15-2017, 02:42 PM

That's THE DONOR truck???

Wow, that's a clean truck. I'd have a hard time not putting that one back together and giving them that one! Keep "Columbus" as is and restore the drivetrain.

**mongocanfly** · 11-15-2017, 03:28 PM

haha....yeah I bought this for the donor but the more I look at it it may become the primary...if there ever was a poor boy "barn find" then this has to be it..dads original truck went thru a lot of changes over the years....he wrecked it when I was a kid...the steering knuckle broke and we went offroad into a huge oak tree..I was standing in the seat and dad reached over and bearhugged me to keep me from going thru the windshield...he caught the steering wheel in the ribs and broke nearly all his left side ribs...that resulted in a 1960 front clip being put in the truck..later on he stripped the ring gear in the rear and replaced the original 3/4ton axle with a 1/2ton....even later on he stripped the front axle and replaced it with a 1/2ton as well....evidently IH had very poor quality axles...the po of my donor just replaced a broke 31 spline rear axle before i bought it...on dads ,the original 6cyl gave out and he swapped in a 304....when I got old enogh to drive we replaced the unsynchronized transmission with a synchronized one...lots of unoriginal parts on his truck..I am trying to make it like it was when he first got it...his is a swb and my donor is a lwb so I'm going to keep it swb..
lots of memories coming up as I work on this...

**mongocanfly** · 11-16-2017, 01:08 AM

not much done today..worked on the bumper dents ,bends ,and twists...started out by knocking all the big stuff out on my steel welding table with a 2lb hammer...a little shop press work ,some c clamps and twisting and its getting close...I guess it pays sometime to be a packrat..one of the wheels off a old junk floor jack fit the edge radius pretty close for hammering..I would find the high and low spots by rubbing a piece of flat soapstone over it to mark it so I'd know where to beat the living daylights outta it..need to test fit to see what else needs done and then some finish work...

**mongocanfly** · 11-16-2017, 01:28 AM

a few before and after..

Mack B · 11-17-2017, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mongocanfly

a few before and after..

Very impressive, sir!

**mongocanfly** · 11-17-2017, 10:44 PM

thanks mack....

67ChevyRedneck · 11-16-2017, 09:18 AM

You're freakin' kidding me.... I've NEVER seen anyone save a bumper like that. My hat is off to you, sir!

Are they a thinner gauge or something? I tried to get one little dent out of a 67-72 painted bumper before and it wasn't happening!

**mongocanfly** · 11-16-2017, 11:09 AM

thanks...I was determined to at least try and save it...it has a unique design and replacements are as plentiful as unicorns....I went out and mic'd and it measures .110 thick so its not real heavy gauge...I'm still going to have to do a little bondo work on it but it'll be painted anyway...

**Advanced Design** · 11-16-2017, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck

You're freakin' kidding me.... I've NEVER seen anyone save a bumper like that. My hat is off to you, sir!

Are they a thinner gauge or something? I tried to get one little dent out of a 67-72 painted bumper before and it wasn't happening!

I was thinking the same thing! Those came out really nice. Did you use any heat?

**mongocanfly** · 11-16-2017, 02:55 PM

thanks...no heat involved...but I would have if needed...just a 2lb hammer, my grandads ol anvil, a steel table, some oak 2x4s, a wheel off a floor jack ,a hyd press, and a lot of hammering

**mongocanfly** · 11-17-2017, 03:12 AM

pulled windshield and back glass out today...hard to believe there's no rust here either..

tune_1 · 11-25-2017, 10:33 PM

Good to see the work that you are doing and the purpose for it. The donor does look good enough to restore for you father and then do your father's also for memories sake.
Keep the pictures and posts coming.

Dwight

**mongocanfly** · 11-25-2017, 10:49 PM

thanks
yeah I've decided to use this truck to replicate his..I went and had a long look at his original and there's very little that can be saved from it. ..to much neglect and abuse over the years..
so the donor becomes the build.
I will use every piece from his truck that I can on this within reason..

with thanksgiving and deer season starting at about the same time all I've got accomplished this week is to get the seat and visor to the upholstery shop..

11-14-2017, 07:40 PM	#1
mongocanfly Post Whore Join Date: May 2015 Location: Alabama Posts: 14,662	Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4.. well this is the rebirth of my dads old 1957 International A120 4x4...dad has owned this truck since 1960 or so...that's when he bought his farm and saw the need for a truck..he went to a farm auction that had 3 of these trucks up for auction...dad bid up to his limit on all 3 and didn't win any..on his way to the parking lot a guy chased him down and wanted to know if he still wanted one of the trucks...he said well yeah that's why he was bidding...turns out the guy bought 2 of them and only wanted one so he let dad have one for his bid price..when he got it home my mom laughed and said the truck looked like it came over on the boat with Columbus. ..hence the knickname that's stuck ever since.. I'm trying to pull a fast one on him and mom and get his truck up and running without them knowing anything.. I've bought a donor truck for parts ..that and his truck will make one...I hope. .so here we go..

11-14-2017, 07:50 PM	#2
mongocanfly Post Whore Join Date: May 2015 Location: Alabama Posts: 14,662	Re: Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4.. right now I'm disassembling the donor truck at a friends shop...I can't do it in mine for fear that I may be found out before I'm ready...when the time comes I'm going to "steal" his truck for this build..this is the donor truck.. Attached Images Last edited by mongocanfly; 11-14-2017 at 07:58 PM.

11-14-2017, 07:52 PM	#3
mongocanfly Post Whore Join Date: May 2015 Location: Alabama Posts: 14,662	Re: Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4.. ready for disassembly Attached Images

11-14-2017, 07:57 PM	#4
mongocanfly Post Whore Join Date: May 2015 Location: Alabama Posts: 14,662	Re: Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4.. how's this for the back side of the grill support and grill and inside the fender wells...this truck is unbelievably solid and practically rust free...not bad for 60yrs old...original paint still under the fenderwells Attached Images

11-14-2017, 08:01 PM	#5
mongocanfly Post Whore Join Date: May 2015 Location: Alabama Posts: 14,662	Re: Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4.. check out the nearly rust free fender bolts...hard to believe they've been in place for 60yrs Attached Images

11-14-2017, 09:01 PM	#6
mongocanfly Post Whore Join Date: May 2015 Location: Alabama Posts: 14,662	Re: Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4.. couple of shots of the old 6 cyl...even its not all that dirty after 60yrs Attached Images Last edited by mongocanfly; 11-14-2017 at 11:55 PM.

11-14-2017, 09:54 PM	#7
Advanced Design Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oblong, Illinois Posts: 7,028	Re: Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4.. Wow, that truck is amazingly solid. It is always cool to see one so nice. Great plan and I'll be tagging along for the rest. __________________ Doug Advanced Design’s 1977 Blazer Build Advanced Design's '48 'Burb Build Mrs Advanced Design's '72 Suburban Advanced Design's 56 BelAir LS swap

11-14-2017, 09:59 PM	#8
mongocanfly Post Whore Join Date: May 2015 Location: Alabama Posts: 14,662	Re: Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4.. thanks Doug...the more I take apart the more amazed I am that a truck could exist for that long and have so little rust...its defiantly not what I'm used to working with __________________ Mongo...aka Greg RIP Dad RIP Jesse 1981 C30 LQ9 NV4500..http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=753598 Mongos AD- LS3 TR6060...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...34#post8522334 Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...63#post8082563 2023 Chevy Z71..daily driver

11-14-2017, 11:54 PM	#9
mongocanfly Post Whore Join Date: May 2015 Location: Alabama Posts: 14,662	Re: Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4.. don't know why people hook log chains on bumpers but it is what it is...time to bust out the anvil and big hammer. ..both ends seem ok..if I can't "fix" the center I may cut it out and make a winch mount while keeping the ends.. Attached Images __________________ Mongo...aka Greg RIP Dad RIP Jesse 1981 C30 LQ9 NV4500..http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=753598 Mongos AD- LS3 TR6060...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...34#post8522334 Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...63#post8082563 2023 Chevy Z71..daily driver

11-15-2017, 04:31 AM	#10
Nut Case Registered User Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Clear and Still Idaho Posts: 509	Re: Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4.. mongocanfly GOOD ON YOU!!!!! What a way to honor your dad.... This is going to be great, I'm in Keep on keepin on Nut Case __________________ Been there, wrecked that

11-15-2017, 07:50 AM	#11
mongocanfly Post Whore Join Date: May 2015 Location: Alabama Posts: 14,662	Re: Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4.. thanks...dads 83 yrs young and mom is 79...I'm trying to get this on the road so they can get some enjoyment out of it...they still go wide open. ..they do a lot of volunteer work with the Alabama Baptist disaster relief not to mention all the other stuff they donate time and money to...and they raised us kids while both worked fulltime jobs....I figure its the least I can do...and save a classic old truck in the meantime... __________________ Mongo...aka Greg RIP Dad RIP Jesse 1981 C30 LQ9 NV4500..http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=753598 Mongos AD- LS3 TR6060...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...34#post8522334 Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...63#post8082563 2023 Chevy Z71..daily driver

11-15-2017, 08:57 AM	#12
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11-15-2017, 02:42 PM	#13
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Re: Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4.. That's *THE DONOR* truck??? Wow, that's a clean truck. I'd have a hard time not putting that one back together and giving them that one! Keep "Columbus" as is and restore the drivetrain. __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications!

11-15-2017, 03:28 PM	#14
mongocanfly Post Whore Join Date: May 2015 Location: Alabama Posts: 14,662	Re: Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4.. haha....yeah I bought this for the donor but the more I look at it it may become the primary...if there ever was a poor boy "barn find" then this has to be it..dads original truck went thru a lot of changes over the years....he wrecked it when I was a kid...the steering knuckle broke and we went offroad into a huge oak tree..I was standing in the seat and dad reached over and bearhugged me to keep me from going thru the windshield...he caught the steering wheel in the ribs and broke nearly all his left side ribs...that resulted in a 1960 front clip being put in the truck..later on he stripped the ring gear in the rear and replaced the original 3/4ton axle with a 1/2ton....even later on he stripped the front axle and replaced it with a 1/2ton as well....evidently IH had very poor quality axles...the po of my donor just replaced a broke 31 spline rear axle before i bought it...on dads ,the original 6cyl gave out and he swapped in a 304....when I got old enogh to drive we replaced the unsynchronized transmission with a synchronized one...lots of unoriginal parts on his truck..I am trying to make it like it was when he first got it...his is a swb and my donor is a lwb so I'm going to keep it swb.. lots of memories coming up as I work on this... __________________ Mongo...aka Greg RIP Dad RIP Jesse 1981 C30 LQ9 NV4500..http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=753598 Mongos AD- LS3 TR6060...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...34#post8522334 Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...63#post8082563 2023 Chevy Z71..daily driver

11-16-2017, 01:08 AM	#15
mongocanfly Post Whore Join Date: May 2015 Location: Alabama Posts: 14,662	Re: Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4.. not much done today..worked on the bumper dents ,bends ,and twists...started out by knocking all the big stuff out on my steel welding table with a 2lb hammer...a little shop press work ,some c clamps and twisting and its getting close...I guess it pays sometime to be a packrat..one of the wheels off a old junk floor jack fit the edge radius pretty close for hammering..I would find the high and low spots by rubbing a piece of flat soapstone over it to mark it so I'd know where to beat the living daylights outta it..need to test fit to see what else needs done and then some finish work... Attached Images __________________ Mongo...aka Greg RIP Dad RIP Jesse 1981 C30 LQ9 NV4500..http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=753598 Mongos AD- LS3 TR6060...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...34#post8522334 Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...63#post8082563 2023 Chevy Z71..daily driver Last edited by mongocanfly; 11-16-2017 at 01:16 AM.



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11-16-2017, 01:28 AM	#16
mongocanfly Post Whore Join Date: May 2015 Location: Alabama Posts: 14,662	Re: Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4.. a few before and after.. Attached Images __________________ Mongo...aka Greg RIP Dad RIP Jesse 1981 C30 LQ9 NV4500..http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=753598 Mongos AD- LS3 TR6060...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...34#post8522334 Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...63#post8082563 2023 Chevy Z71..daily driver Last edited by mongocanfly; 11-16-2017 at 01:41 AM.

11-17-2017, 10:44 PM	#18
mongocanfly Post Whore Join Date: May 2015 Location: Alabama Posts: 14,662	Re: Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4.. thanks mack.... __________________ Mongo...aka Greg RIP Dad RIP Jesse 1981 C30 LQ9 NV4500..http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=753598 Mongos AD- LS3 TR6060...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...34#post8522334 Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...63#post8082563 2023 Chevy Z71..daily driver

11-16-2017, 09:18 AM	#19
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Re: Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4.. You're freakin' kidding me.... I've NEVER seen anyone save a bumper like that. My hat is off to you, sir! Are they a thinner gauge or something? I tried to get one little dent out of a 67-72 painted bumper before and it wasn't happening! __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications!

11-16-2017, 11:09 AM	#20
mongocanfly Post Whore Join Date: May 2015 Location: Alabama Posts: 14,662	Re: Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4.. thanks...I was determined to at least try and save it...it has a unique design and replacements are as plentiful as unicorns....I went out and mic'd and it measures .110 thick so its not real heavy gauge...I'm still going to have to do a little bondo work on it but it'll be painted anyway... __________________ Mongo...aka Greg RIP Dad RIP Jesse 1981 C30 LQ9 NV4500..http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=753598 Mongos AD- LS3 TR6060...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...34#post8522334 Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...63#post8082563 2023 Chevy Z71..daily driver

11-16-2017, 02:55 PM	#22
mongocanfly Post Whore Join Date: May 2015 Location: Alabama Posts: 14,662	Re: Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4.. thanks...no heat involved...but I would have if needed...just a 2lb hammer, my grandads ol anvil, a steel table, some oak 2x4s, a wheel off a floor jack ,a hyd press, and a lot of hammering __________________ Mongo...aka Greg RIP Dad RIP Jesse 1981 C30 LQ9 NV4500..http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=753598 Mongos AD- LS3 TR6060...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...34#post8522334 Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...63#post8082563 2023 Chevy Z71..daily driver

11-17-2017, 03:12 AM	#23
mongocanfly Post Whore Join Date: May 2015 Location: Alabama Posts: 14,662	Re: Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4.. pulled windshield and back glass out today...hard to believe there's no rust here either.. Attached Images __________________ Mongo...aka Greg RIP Dad RIP Jesse 1981 C30 LQ9 NV4500..http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=753598 Mongos AD- LS3 TR6060...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...34#post8522334 Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...63#post8082563 2023 Chevy Z71..daily driver

11-25-2017, 10:33 PM	#24
tune_1 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Oklahoma City Okla Posts: 196	Re: Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4.. Good to see the work that you are doing and the purpose for it. The donor does look good enough to restore for you father and then do your father's also for memories sake. Keep the pictures and posts coming. Dwight

11-25-2017, 10:49 PM	#25
mongocanfly Post Whore Join Date: May 2015 Location: Alabama Posts: 14,662	Re: Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4.. thanks yeah I've decided to use this truck to replicate his..I went and had a long look at his original and there's very little that can be saved from it. ..to much neglect and abuse over the years.. so the donor becomes the build. I will use every piece from his truck that I can on this within reason.. with thanksgiving and deer season starting at about the same time all I've got accomplished this week is to get the seat and visor to the upholstery shop..

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