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MandarinSixSeven · 08-30-2002, 08:39 PM

I just finished installing my new carb and manifold set-up, got it all done, ready to go and, now it wont start, and of course its sitting in my driveway and i dont know what to do...
when i first turned it over it almost started, for about two seconds, then it died and now there is no sign of life, just cranks over for a long time and does nothing...i dont have any frickin' diagnostic tools either...so fack, who knows eh?

Paul Clark · 08-30-2002, 08:49 PM

Got spark?
Got gas?
It should do "something".
Maybe (don't know what I'm talking about) the timing and the distributor is screwed up.

MandarinSixSeven · 08-30-2002, 08:57 PM

if the timing was way off, would it not start at all?

Longhorn Man · 08-30-2002, 09:01 PM

If the timing is way off, it wouldn't have "almost starte" at first.
Check the wires to your coil.

flyin99 · 08-30-2002, 09:03 PM

.........ummmmmmmm........major vacuum leaks???................soaked the plugs in gas maybe????............fuel pump has failed?..........just some theories......

*racedvl* · 08-30-2002, 09:24 PM

Is the distribtor 180 off?

Hutch · 08-30-2002, 09:39 PM

Maybe try a little starting fluid sprayed over the carb.
It might not start but will help to eliminte other issues

Paul Clark · 08-30-2002, 09:41 PM

What little I know -
Pump the gas and see if it's squirting in the carb.
Pull a plug wire and ground it someplace to see if you have spark.
Dist. could be 180 off. - been there, done that.
Or (if it's a Holley carb) the power valve could be shot.
They won't start. Found that out once when it was 20+ degrees below zero.

MandarinSixSeven · 08-30-2002, 09:46 PM

i rotated the ditributor 180degrees since when i checked it, the mark that i made was 180 off! (dumb ass move), but that didnt help, but i noticed that on my old carb when you move the throttle you can hear air coming out of the jets, but not on the new one...possibly defective?...the fuel is getting to the carb, but not spraying out i think...cuz i unhooked the lines and gas spilled everywhere (including on my keyboard now

), and they were new lines too, so must mean gas is getting there...aaAAHHH!
i knew i shouldnt have bought a remanufactured carb....stupid stupid stupid

MandarinSixSeven · 08-30-2002, 09:47 PM

Paul no gas is squirting!!! damn!
is there an easy fix? or does it mean taking the damn thing apart?

cacauba · 08-30-2002, 10:42 PM

just a thought but check your oil and make sure there is no water in it. if the intake gasket didn't seal then you could be getting water where your trying to get fire.
chris

bigjimzlll · 08-30-2002, 10:52 PM

dont freak..its probably something easy.. I would pour a little gas down the carb...just a little... and try starting..if it fires, then its your carb..its could be a stuck float or some crap plugging up the jets...tap on the float bowls(easily) I will sometime unscrew the idle adjustment screws and shoot some carb cleaner in the holes..just try to eliminate one thing at a time. If you have spark..and fuel.. it should run( timing could be a prob.) just check the easy stuff first

MandarinSixSeven · 08-30-2002, 10:54 PM

well i checked the oil...and it smells like gas....so i musta flooded the ****e outta it....any suggestions? but that doesnt make much sense, there isnt gas squirting

oh well, i think im done for tonight, since i cant see anything its too dark....what do you do when you flood it like that?
man i feel like such a newbie!!! ive never done real engine work, anything else im fine with, but this is stressin' me out!!!
i wish i could have all you guys helping me at my house, then it would be running and we could do some racing Woo hoo!
you guys are all the best, im stilll open to any suggestions by the way tee hee
thanks guys

MandarinSixSeven · 08-30-2002, 11:01 PM

good thing i have some Chewin' tabackey stashed away, this is one of those times, where i will definately need it :P oh well, im gonna pull i plug wire first and check the spark first...

bigjimzlll · 08-30-2002, 11:05 PM

do you have a fire extingisher? with all that gas smell around..and sparks flying its a good idea..not to scare you..but an once of prevention........

MandarinSixSeven · 08-30-2002, 11:07 PM

yessir i thought of that dont worry

haha

O'l Buck · 08-31-2002, 12:59 AM

if you think it's flooded bad, pull the plugs, spin it a few times, put the plugs back in and try it.......if still nothing, and you have no gas squirting from the accelerator pump, fill the float bowl through the vent, then try the acc. pump.....that should at least tell you if your pump is working.

JoetheMobster · 08-31-2002, 01:12 AM

Bah! The funniest thing is dumping a bunch of gas down the carb and then firing up the engine! Nothing like flames shooting up outta the carb! Word of warning though, keep all clothes and hair out of the way!!!!! hahaha! Think your carb's a *****, take a look at mine. It looks like there's a friggin brake rotor on top of the opening of the carb. Has something to do with the CNG system installed. I don't have the first clue about working on CNG systems, so hopefully I don't have any problems in the near future!

RShaips · 08-31-2002, 08:46 AM

If you have gas in the oil you might have a bad fuel pump. Look at your oil closely to see if it is thin or runny looking. If you have spark and gas it should fire,unless your plugs are soaked in oil or gas. Good luck

6869704X4 · 08-31-2002, 09:39 AM

You need to change the oil if you have gas in it. Easy way to spin a bearing.

08-30-2002, 08:39 PM	#1
MandarinSixSeven Seasonal Poster Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna BC Canada Posts: 896	Im scared...i think i broke it I just finished installing my new carb and manifold set-up, got it all done, ready to go and, now it wont start, and of course its sitting in my driveway and i dont know what to do... when i first turned it over it almost started, for about two seconds, then it died and now there is no sign of life, just cranks over for a long time and does nothing...i dont have any frickin' diagnostic tools either...so fack, who knows eh? __________________ 67 GMC Short Step 350/4-Speed/3.08 Posi Front/Rear Sway Bars Kelowna BC, Canada Member of DTPW

08-30-2002, 08:57 PM	#3
MandarinSixSeven Seasonal Poster Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna BC Canada Posts: 896	if the timing was way off, would it not start at all? __________________ 67 GMC Short Step 350/4-Speed/3.08 Posi Front/Rear Sway Bars Kelowna BC, Canada Member of DTPW

08-30-2002, 09:39 PM	#7
Hutch Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Grapevine, Tx. Posts: 2,142	Maybe try a little starting fluid sprayed over the carb. It might not start but will help to eliminte other issues __________________ John Hutchison Grapevine,Texas 68 1/2 t swb 68 Mustang 69 Jaguar 71 1/2 t swb 88 Supra CompTs6m 93 Escort GT 2005 Corolla XRS

08-30-2002, 09:46 PM	#9
MandarinSixSeven Seasonal Poster Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna BC Canada Posts: 896	i rotated the ditributor 180degrees since when i checked it, the mark that i made was 180 off! (dumb ass move), but that didnt help, but i noticed that on my old carb when you move the throttle you can hear air coming out of the jets, but not on the new one...possibly defective?...the fuel is getting to the carb, but not spraying out i think...cuz i unhooked the lines and gas spilled everywhere (including on my keyboard now ), and they were new lines too, so must mean gas is getting there...aaAAHHH! i knew i shouldnt have bought a remanufactured carb....stupid stupid stupid __________________ 67 GMC Short Step 350/4-Speed/3.08 Posi Front/Rear Sway Bars Kelowna BC, Canada Member of DTPW

08-30-2002, 09:47 PM	#10
MandarinSixSeven Seasonal Poster Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna BC Canada Posts: 896	Paul no gas is squirting!!! damn! is there an easy fix? or does it mean taking the damn thing apart? __________________ 67 GMC Short Step 350/4-Speed/3.08 Posi Front/Rear Sway Bars Kelowna BC, Canada Member of DTPW

08-30-2002, 08:49 PM	#2
Paul Clark Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Center Point, IA Posts: 502	Got spark? Got gas? It should do "something". Maybe (don't know what I'm talking about) the timing and the distributor is screwed up.

08-30-2002, 09:01 PM	#4
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	If the timing is way off, it wouldn't have "almost starte" at first. Check the wires to your coil.

08-30-2002, 09:03 PM	#5
flyin99 creator of kong Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Kentucky Posts: 538	.........ummmmmmmm........major vacuum leaks???................soaked the plugs in gas maybe????............fuel pump has failed?..........just some theories......

08-30-2002, 09:24 PM	#6
racedvl Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Woodstock, IL Posts: 7,020	Is the distribtor 180 off?

08-30-2002, 09:41 PM	#8
Paul Clark Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Center Point, IA Posts: 502	What little I know - Pump the gas and see if it's squirting in the carb. Pull a plug wire and ground it someplace to see if you have spark. Dist. could be 180 off. - been there, done that. Or (if it's a Holley carb) the power valve could be shot. They won't start. Found that out once when it was 20+ degrees below zero.

08-30-2002, 10:42 PM	#11
cacauba STL-KKN Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Tomball, Tx Posts: 182	just a thought but check your oil and make sure there is no water in it. if the intake gasket didn't seal then you could be getting water where your trying to get fire. chris __________________ 1969 C10 350/POWERGLIDE 1991 1500 EXTCAB 350 Formally: collegeK5er

08-30-2002, 10:52 PM	#12
bigjimzlll Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Redding,CA...USA Posts: 4,736	dont freak..its probably something easy.. I would pour a little gas down the carb...just a little... and try starting..if it fires, then its your carb..its could be a stuck float or some crap plugging up the jets...tap on the float bowls(easily) I will sometime unscrew the idle adjustment screws and shoot some carb cleaner in the holes..just try to eliminate one thing at a time. If you have spark..and fuel.. it should run( timing could be a prob.) just check the easy stuff first __________________ It's called "drag racing" if they called it "tic..tic..WHAM!..BANG! F*&K!!!", they'd have to keep the magazines under the counter with the other men's publications click the clicky to join the site.... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/payments.php 67 lwb..first hotrod in 25 years..540 best ET is 9.45 @ 141.44 Anderson,CA

08-30-2002, 10:54 PM	#13
MandarinSixSeven Seasonal Poster Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna BC Canada Posts: 896	well i checked the oil...and it smells like gas....so i musta flooded the ****e outta it....any suggestions? but that doesnt make much sense, there isnt gas squirting oh well, i think im done for tonight, since i cant see anything its too dark....what do you do when you flood it like that? man i feel like such a newbie!!! ive never done real engine work, anything else im fine with, but this is stressin' me out!!! i wish i could have all you guys helping me at my house, then it would be running and we could do some racing Woo hoo! you guys are all the best, im stilll open to any suggestions by the way tee hee thanks guys __________________ 67 GMC Short Step 350/4-Speed/3.08 Posi Front/Rear Sway Bars Kelowna BC, Canada Member of DTPW

08-30-2002, 11:01 PM	#14
MandarinSixSeven Seasonal Poster Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna BC Canada Posts: 896	good thing i have some Chewin' tabackey stashed away, this is one of those times, where i will definately need it :P oh well, im gonna pull i plug wire first and check the spark first... __________________ 67 GMC Short Step 350/4-Speed/3.08 Posi Front/Rear Sway Bars Kelowna BC, Canada Member of DTPW

08-30-2002, 11:05 PM	#15
bigjimzlll Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Redding,CA...USA Posts: 4,736	do you have a fire extingisher? with all that gas smell around..and sparks flying its a good idea..not to scare you..but an once of prevention........ __________________ It's called "drag racing" if they called it "tic..tic..WHAM!..BANG! F*&K!!!", they'd have to keep the magazines under the counter with the other men's publications click the clicky to join the site.... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/payments.php 67 lwb..first hotrod in 25 years..540 best ET is 9.45 @ 141.44 Anderson,CA



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08-30-2002, 11:07 PM	#16
MandarinSixSeven Seasonal Poster Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna BC Canada Posts: 896	yessir i thought of that dont worry haha __________________ 67 GMC Short Step 350/4-Speed/3.08 Posi Front/Rear Sway Bars Kelowna BC, Canada Member of DTPW

08-31-2002, 12:59 AM	#17
O'l Buck Recovering Truck Driver Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Orleans, NE USA Posts: 1,883	if you think it's flooded bad, pull the plugs, spin it a few times, put the plugs back in and try it.......if still nothing, and you have no gas squirting from the accelerator pump, fill the float bowl through the vent, then try the acc. pump.....that should at least tell you if your pump is working. __________________ 67 K-20 350, SM465, Eaton rear, 4.56 no spin option 00 Dodge 2500 4x4, 24V cummins, 5 speed Chad South Central Nebraska

08-31-2002, 01:12 AM	#18
JoetheMobster Listening since '86 Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 1,799	Bah! The funniest thing is dumping a bunch of gas down the carb and then firing up the engine! Nothing like flames shooting up outta the carb! Word of warning though, keep all clothes and hair out of the way!!!!! hahaha! Think your carb's a *****, take a look at mine. It looks like there's a friggin brake rotor on top of the opening of the carb. Has something to do with the CNG system installed. I don't have the first clue about working on CNG systems, so hopefully I don't have any problems in the near future! __________________ 2007 Saturn Aura - hey it WAS a GM product

08-31-2002, 08:46 AM	#19
RShaips Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Augusta Missouri Posts: 804	If you have gas in the oil you might have a bad fuel pump. Look at your oil closely to see if it is thin or runny looking. If you have spark and gas it should fire,unless your plugs are soaked in oil or gas. Good luck

08-31-2002, 09:39 AM	#20
6869704X4 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: SE NM Posts: 769	You need to change the oil if you have gas in it. Easy way to spin a bearing. __________________ The more I learn about women, the more I love my truck.

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