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Tom · 03-17-2003, 01:27 PM

This is really getting old. The front of my 79 is droped 5". So is my 78. I had no problems with the 78. The 79 is hitting every freakin bump it can. My a-arms arent going to last much longer. They already have a good 1/4" of metal removed in one spot. Why is this happening? I used all the good stuff, toxic shocks, eiback springs, 3" spindles. My 78 had the stock shocks on it. My only guess is the eibach springs. They are progressive rate. So maybe they are compressing to easy in the beggining, allowing my truck to hit EVERYTHING?
If anyone has ideas, Id love to hear them.

Izzy · 03-17-2003, 01:42 PM

It's the Eibachs and those shocks aren't the best either imo. Eibachs are way too soft for this heavy a truck. I have them on my 98 and thier almost to soft for it.

Toxic shocks aren't gonna last long either. They might as well be AIM shocks for how long they'll last you.

ocbaud · 03-17-2003, 01:58 PM

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Originally posted by fiveeightchevy
It's the Eibachs and those shocks aren't the best either imo. Eibachs are way too soft for this heavy a truck. I have them on my 98 and thier almost to soft for it.
Toxic shocks aren't gonna last long either. They might as well be AIM shocks for how long they'll last you.

i always heard eibachs were stiff, but maybe thats just for my friends import cars:p

and ditto on the toxic shocks, bad stuffs they is

since putting on my doestch tech shocks, i have only scraped my headers once

BaggedC10 · 03-17-2003, 02:21 PM

WORD to what 5-8 and Ocbaud said. I've had both DJM and Eibach springs. The ladder is a stiffer spring by far. I'de recommend a set of Doetsch Tech shock absorbers too.

low 84 · 03-17-2003, 02:34 PM

i barley scrape at all, with 2.5 inch western springs and 2.5 inch western spindles and d-tech shocks, and 255/60/15 tires, but i drive carefully, when i do hit though, it hits hard. i bent a control arm badly and am gonna replace it.

Low87 · 03-17-2003, 03:20 PM

Werd to Ryan! Learn to drive your truck Tom! I've got 6 in the front and rarely hit, even with piso toxic shocks.

Tom · 03-17-2003, 03:22 PM

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Originally posted by LowC10
WORD to what 5-8 and Ocbaud said. I've had both DJM and Eibach springs. The ladder is a stiffer spring by far.

Im confused. 5-8 said eibachs are way too soft, and your agreeing but then you say the eibachs are stiffer then DJM springs?

Im about to go with normal summit 2" springs and stock friggin shocks. They work 10times better then this setup.

Trick76 · 03-17-2003, 06:40 PM

I have Summit (Ground Force) 2 inch springs and doetsch tech shocks on my 4.5/6 drop and haven't scraped yet. Good stuff, I think it is mostly the shocks though.

Derek

**swervin ervin** · 03-17-2003, 06:47 PM

Tom,

I know for a fact, your Eibach springs are not too soft. They are after all made for the truck. They are a progressive spring, which means the farther they go down, the stiffer they become. Eibach springs are the best you can buy. I know those are not soft, first hand.

I say your shocks may have something to do with it. Are your spindles 2.5's? What size are your tires?

All I can think of is stay out of the pot holes.

Tom · 03-17-2003, 07:16 PM

Mike, I wanna be cool like dave so I run a set of DUBS, although they are 3/4 scale models [15"s hehe] The spindles are 3" DJM units. Im pretty sure now its all the shocks.

Wish I had known before I orderd them. I talked to a friend who works for eibach [although hes in the import part, hes a honda v6 lover like me

] and he also thinks its the shocks. And before you go boo-hiss him, he also has a 430hp 1968 chevy c10 :p

**swervin ervin** · 03-17-2003, 08:00 PM

What makes you think I would boo him?

At least it is a V motor, with more than 4 cylinders.

Tom, you probably remember me telling you I thought those springs were more like 2.5's right? I know all the numbers say they are 2", but my measurements say they are at least 2.5". If this is the case, and I'm pretty sure it is, you are more than 5". This may have something to do with the difference between trucks. Just a thought.

BaggedC10 · 03-17-2003, 08:07 PM

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Originally posted by Tom
Im confused. 5-8 said eibachs are way too soft, and your agreeing but then you say the eibachs are stiffer then DJM springs? Im about to go with normal summit 2" springs and stock friggin shocks. They work 10times better then this setup.

I was agreeing with 5-8 about Toxic shock absorbers being crap.

**swervin ervin** · 03-17-2003, 11:57 PM

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Originally posted by LowC10

I was agreeing with 5-8 about Toxic shock absorbers being crap.

Yeah, Belltech Nitro drops as well. Only drop shock worth it's weight is Doetch Techs. You would think Belltech would make a better shock. Maybe they do now, but the Nitro drops I used were crap after very few miles.

ocbaud · 03-18-2003, 01:53 AM

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Originally posted by swervin ervin

Yeah, Belltech Nitro drops as well. Only drop shock worth it's weight is Doetch Techs. You would think Belltech would make a better shock. Maybe they do now, but the Nitro drops I used were crap after very few miles.

i've heard good things about there new "nitro-ACTIVE" drop shocks.

they are supposed to be mono tube, like the edelbrocks.

BaggedC10 · 03-18-2003, 02:01 AM

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Originally posted by swervin ervin
Yeah, Belltech Nitro drops as well. Only drop shock worth it's weight is Doetch Techs. You would think Belltech would make a better shock. Maybe they do now, but the Nitro drops I used were crap after very few miles.

Yep. I had a set of Nitro-Active shock absorbers and a 3/4" drop for 1-year. They were also crap.

ocbaud · 03-18-2003, 02:05 AM

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Originally posted by LowC10

Yep. I had a set of Nitro-Active shock absorbers and a 3/4" drop for 1-year. They were also crap.

well, i've heard they are better then the older nitro-drop shocks:p

Tom · 03-18-2003, 12:04 PM

Mike, I dunno. Maybe your engine weighs more then mine?

The front drops on my trucks look the same when checking ground clearence between the a-arms. Either way, I think it has the perfect stance on it right now. I want to make it work. Ill be looking into some new shocks ASAP.

ocbaud · 03-18-2003, 12:25 PM

doestch techs are your friend

Tom · 03-18-2003, 01:42 PM

so how much are these non pronouncable name shocks?

ocbaud · 03-18-2003, 01:47 PM

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Originally posted by Tom
so how much are these non pronouncable name shocks?

http://sporttruckdirect.com/Doetsch_Tech_shocks.html

*1FaastC10* · 03-18-2003, 02:49 PM

www.macsspring.com they have free shipping on any order over $100. i just bought my 5/7 kit and shocks from them. great people to deal with.

Low87 · 03-18-2003, 04:23 PM

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Originally posted by 1FaastC10
www.macsspring.com they have free shipping on any order over $100. i just bought my 5/7 kit and shocks from them. great people to deal with.

Maybe Tom can get the shocks they didn't send to you.

**swervin ervin** · 03-18-2003, 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by Low87

Maybe Tom can get the shocks they didn't send to you.

LMAO. Hahahaha.

Greg, you crack me up somtimes.

gldevall · 03-18-2003, 10:48 PM

Anybody have any comments on the new shocks from Edelbrock?

*1FaastC10* · 03-19-2003, 12:36 AM

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Originally posted by Low87

Maybe Tom can get the shocks they didn't send to you.

they did send them, they arrived the next day. didnt you read the post? the drop kit was drop shipped direct from Western Chassis, and the shocks were shipped from Mac's Spring. i called them the day after i got the drop kit, and they said they had shipped the same day, for some reason didnt show at the same time.

03-17-2003, 01:27 PM	#1
Tom driving is in my blood Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 5,714	Im scraping on everything! This is really getting old. The front of my 79 is droped 5". So is my 78. I had no problems with the 78. The 79 is hitting every freakin bump it can. My a-arms arent going to last much longer. They already have a good 1/4" of metal removed in one spot. Why is this happening? I used all the good stuff, toxic shocks, eiback springs, 3" spindles. My 78 had the stock shocks on it. My only guess is the eibach springs. They are progressive rate. So maybe they are compressing to easy in the beggining, allowing my truck to hit EVERYTHING? If anyone has ideas, Id love to hear them. __________________ -78 c10 short/step: 388cid, M20, 5/5 drop, lots more. Playtoy and first vehicle. -98 c1500 x-cab: 5.7L, 17" rims, 5/6 drop, flowmaster, helper bags,NBS rear disk brakes. -02 Suburban 4x4: leveled front -CBR600F4i, CBR600RR, CBR1000RR, and standup skis DISCLAIMER: I cant spell for the life of me.

03-17-2003, 02:21 PM	#4
BaggedC10 Under construction! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NorCal Posts: 1,065	WORD to what 5-8 and Ocbaud said. I've had both DJM and Eibach springs. The ladder is a stiffer spring by far. I'de recommend a set of Doetsch Tech shock absorbers too. __________________ 2001 Silverado bagged on 22's. Sold Last edited by BaggedC10; 03-17-2003 at 02:30 PM.

03-17-2003, 02:34 PM	#5
low 84 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,144	i barley scrape at all, with 2.5 inch western springs and 2.5 inch western spindles and d-tech shocks, and 255/60/15 tires, but i drive carefully, when i do hit though, it hits hard. i bent a control arm badly and am gonna replace it. __________________ '51 F100, backhalf with a narrowed 9 and coil overs, 18.5" mickeys, monte front clip, +400" sbc in the works '05 1500 Crew Cab RIP '84 swb 5/7 drop, solid cammed 408 w/ fully ported dart heads, th350 w/ 10 inch hughes, 12 bolt w/ 3.73 richmonds and a locker '80 swb 4x4 in progress: 7" lift, 350 th350/np205, d44 and 1.5" ORD tie rod, 14BFF w/discs , armored diff covers, 40" MTR's

03-17-2003, 03:20 PM	#6
Low87 been here longer than Liz Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Broken Arrow, OK Posts: 2,437	Werd to Ryan! Learn to drive your truck Tom! I've got 6 in the front and rarely hit, even with piso toxic shocks. __________________ ~Greg~ Mac's Garage '87 SWB 6/8 drop "Piso" '08 CCSB Silverado DD the departed '89 GMC K5 Jimmy 4x4 "Rusty Nuts" '77 Chevy K5 Blazer 2wd '83 Chevy stepside "You get what you pay for" - Mike 'swervin ervin' Ervin

03-17-2003, 06:40 PM	#8
Trick76 Living la vida broka Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: P'ville California Posts: 221	I have Summit (Ground Force) 2 inch springs and doetsch tech shocks on my 4.5/6 drop and haven't scraped yet. Good stuff, I think it is mostly the shocks though. Derek __________________ 1976 C10 Longbed lowered 5/7, hot 355/TH350. ~ SOLD 1974 C10 Shortbed Stepside 350/Saginaw ~ SOLD 1984 C10 Longbed 6.2l diesel 700r4. ~SOLD 1985 GMC C20 350 700r4, ~under the knife

03-17-2003, 01:42 PM	#2
Izzy Trucker. Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 1,364	It's the Eibachs and those shocks aren't the best either imo. Eibachs are way too soft for this heavy a truck. I have them on my 98 and thier almost to soft for it. Toxic shocks aren't gonna last long either. They might as well be AIM shocks for how long they'll last you.

03-17-2003, 06:47 PM	#9
swervin ervin You get what you pay for Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Cherryville, NC Posts: 4,798	Tom, I know for a fact, your Eibach springs are not too soft. They are after all made for the truck. They are a progressive spring, which means the farther they go down, the stiffer they become. Eibach springs are the best you can buy. I know those are not soft, first hand. I say your shocks may have something to do with it. Are your spindles 2.5's? What size are your tires? All I can think of is stay out of the pot holes. __________________ Mike 1985 Chevy C-10

03-17-2003, 07:16 PM	#10
Tom driving is in my blood Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 5,714	Mike, I wanna be cool like dave so I run a set of DUBS, although they are 3/4 scale models [15"s hehe] The spindles are 3" DJM units. Im pretty sure now its all the shocks. Wish I had known before I orderd them. I talked to a friend who works for eibach [although hes in the import part, hes a honda v6 lover like me ] and he also thinks its the shocks. And before you go boo-hiss him, he also has a 430hp 1968 chevy c10 :p __________________ -78 c10 short/step: 388cid, M20, 5/5 drop, lots more. Playtoy and first vehicle. -98 c1500 x-cab: 5.7L, 17" rims, 5/6 drop, flowmaster, helper bags,NBS rear disk brakes. -02 Suburban 4x4: leveled front -CBR600F4i, CBR600RR, CBR1000RR, and standup skis DISCLAIMER: I cant spell for the life of me.

03-17-2003, 08:00 PM	#11
swervin ervin You get what you pay for Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Cherryville, NC Posts: 4,798	What makes you think I would boo him? At least it is a V motor, with more than 4 cylinders. Tom, you probably remember me telling you I thought those springs were more like 2.5's right? I know all the numbers say they are 2", but my measurements say they are at least 2.5". If this is the case, and I'm pretty sure it is, you are more than 5". This may have something to do with the difference between trucks. Just a thought. __________________ Mike 1985 Chevy C-10

03-18-2003, 12:04 PM	#17
Tom driving is in my blood Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 5,714	Mike, I dunno. Maybe your engine weighs more then mine? The front drops on my trucks look the same when checking ground clearence between the a-arms. Either way, I think it has the perfect stance on it right now. I want to make it work. Ill be looking into some new shocks ASAP. __________________ -78 c10 short/step: 388cid, M20, 5/5 drop, lots more. Playtoy and first vehicle. -98 c1500 x-cab: 5.7L, 17" rims, 5/6 drop, flowmaster, helper bags,NBS rear disk brakes. -02 Suburban 4x4: leveled front -CBR600F4i, CBR600RR, CBR1000RR, and standup skis DISCLAIMER: I cant spell for the life of me.

03-18-2003, 12:25 PM	#18
ocbaud Garage Queen Material Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 4,129	doestch techs are your friend

03-18-2003, 01:42 PM	#19
Tom driving is in my blood Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 5,714	so how much are these non pronouncable name shocks? __________________ -78 c10 short/step: 388cid, M20, 5/5 drop, lots more. Playtoy and first vehicle. -98 c1500 x-cab: 5.7L, 17" rims, 5/6 drop, flowmaster, helper bags,NBS rear disk brakes. -02 Suburban 4x4: leveled front -CBR600F4i, CBR600RR, CBR1000RR, and standup skis DISCLAIMER: I cant spell for the life of me.

03-18-2003, 02:49 PM	#21
1FaastC10 Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Elkhart, IN Posts: 6,400	www.macsspring.com they have free shipping on any order over $100. i just bought my 5/7 kit and shocks from them. great people to deal with.

03-18-2003, 10:48 PM	#24
gldevall Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Walker, LA Posts: 2,925	Anybody have any comments on the new shocks from Edelbrock? __________________ Gary -1986 SWB: lowered 4/6, SOLD!!! -Best 1/4 mile: 14.51 @ 91.01 MPH -2001 Pewter Tahoe, billet grill, Corsa Sport Cat-back, K&N FIPK SOLD!!! -2004 Z-71 Extended cab with a flowmaster, BDS 6.5", 3" BL, 35x12.5x18 Trail Grapplers on Pro-Comp 18x9 wheels



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