Another Ebay rip off....... Tilt column.. Ya right!! - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

**Classic Heartbeat** · 12-20-2002, 11:14 AM

Does this column look like a tilt to you guys? Not to me... Either the guy doesn't have a clue about these trucks or he is trying to scam someone. He has shades and zero feedback...hmmm... It doesn't even look like a truck column to me.... It looks like a van column with the long spline shaft on the end...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1874846541
Someone is going to be dissapointed. WES www.ClassicHeartbeat.com

BUXMAN66 · 12-20-2002, 11:28 AM

tilt........... my ass! no kidding ,he'll def. be disappointed!

**Classic Heartbeat** · 12-20-2002, 11:34 AM

I emailed both the seller and high bidder to let them know about what I see as a problem and for the buyer to be carefull of what he is bidding on. WES www.ClassicHeartbeat.com

JJR · 12-20-2002, 11:35 AM

Good call WES. Looks like there will be some bid retractions in the near future. Look at his other auctions. He lists a "67-71 Z28" intake manifold that is a cast iron quadrajet manifold. Last time I checked the Z28 manifolds were high rise aluminum set-up for a square bore Holley. Here is the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1874960181 He either doesn't know what he really has or is trying to rip people off.

1971LT1SWBPOSI373 · 12-20-2002, 11:52 AM

That's no high rise intake manifold that he has listed. It's just a plain Jane 4 barrel intake that looks like its been laying out in the woods somewhere. Those are a dime a dozen..............

jostrans68 · 12-20-2002, 12:36 PM

not to stir the pot but it may be a tilt look at collor in enlarged not sure you judge

**Classic Heartbeat** · 12-20-2002, 12:54 PM

Jack, I thought about that but here is a picture of a tilt... You can see that they aren't even close. WES ClassicHeartbeat.com

jostrans68 · 12-20-2002, 12:55 PM

I lightened it a bit

jostrans68 · 12-20-2002, 12:59 PM

wes that tire doesnt look like a tilt but here

**1971Stepside** · 12-20-2002, 01:01 PM

LOL @ Wes.....been there done that!

Yellow Cheyenne · 12-20-2002, 01:12 PM

I would guess it is not a tilt. The gear indicator is the larger type that the non tilt uses, not the skinny (usually missing) type that tilt has. Also appears to have the newer style hazard cancel knob.

Rod · 12-20-2002, 01:29 PM

By the look of the screw to hold the indicator for the fiber optic cable, and the location of the neutral safety... Id say its not even a tilt, and a normal van column. Tilt column would only have the holder for the plastic indicator.
Here's a pic of a truck tilt... judge for your self the neutral safety position.... van ones are further up the column.

Longhorn Man · 12-20-2002, 01:33 PM

Look how high the idding is too...200 bucks!

XXL · 12-20-2002, 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by WES
I emailed both the seller and high bidder to let them know about what I see as a problem and for the buyer to be carefull of what he is bidding on. WES

Wes, I'm all for spreading factual information... but sending emails to bidders is called "auction interference" by Ebay and it's one of the fastest ways to lose your account there. When you see incorrect information in these auctions, it often helps to email the seller (which you are allowed to do) and let the person know about the error. When they ignore the information, or it seems that they are purposefully providing false information, use Ebay's Safeharbor form to notify them of the problem. That way there's a record of the problem if needed.

My 2 cents.

Kenneth

**Classic Heartbeat** · 12-20-2002, 01:40 PM

I posted the wron picture and then couldn't get back on to fix it...LOL Phone got buisy..lol Thanks Jack for posting the picture of the tilt in my Cheyenne.... WES www.ClassicHeartbeat.com

mikep · 12-20-2002, 08:49 PM

I lost me ebay account once because I emailed whoever bid on a certain individuals merchandise to let them know about his practices. I paid for heads I never got . The package got broken open in the mail,. Fedex wouldnt honor the insurance because of poor packaging and I got nothing! $350 down the tubes. Went the whole safe harbor route . Still nothing. He wouldnt even return my emails. After that every time he put anything for sale I would contact the bidder and send them the details of what happened. Cost him a lot of business . Sometimes I'd even bid his items up and then not pay. Lost a couple of accounts that way too. Finally he stopped putting items for sale under that pseudonym.

I'd do it all again!

Tynee · 12-20-2002, 08:55 PM

Wes, those wild country's are great tires aren't they. Had a set exactly like what you've got on a '91 4X4. They'd go anywhere, and still had half the tread @50K miles when I wrecked the truck.

**Classic Heartbeat** · 12-20-2002, 09:54 PM

Ya, I like the wild countries.. They run quiet and I drive down the road strait. I havn't had the truck long enough to see how long the will last, but they seem pretty good.
Kenneth, I tried to email the seller and give him a chance to rectify his auction and got no responce. This is why I emailed the person who was winning the auction at the time. I never knew about the rule that says that you can't notify the bidder of a problem, but to tell you the truth I wouldn't have cared. I bought a truck from Pencilvania that was missrepresented on the auction and have seen other trucks selling in the tens of thousands of dollars being passed off as origanals on ebay also. The poor guy that doesn't know any better later finds out he was lied to and has no reprecussions except to tell ebay about it. The guy looses his account but so what.. Ebay will just open a new one and like this guy will go on under another assumed identity and the bidder is just out the money he sent. The sell then proceeds to rip the next person off.... If I broke a rule like that well then so be it... I would rather break a rule than sit back and watch someone get ripped off. WES www.ClassicHeartbeat.com

Longhorn Man · 12-21-2002, 12:37 AM

Amen Wes...Amen.

jostrans68 · 12-21-2002, 04:56 AM

Well I also emailed the buyer as i have been ripped on a column on ebay ..He responded tonite as to how I know its wrong I sent him wes's photo not the wheels Wes the column and pointed out the diffs I will see what he says as for getting in trouble o well ebay has become a addiction too soe maybe one less....Jack

**Classic Heartbeat** · 12-21-2002, 12:34 PM

You are not going to let me live that post down are you Jack!! LOL

I couldn't get right back to it to delete it and post the right picture, because it got buisy around here.... When I finally got back to it, you had already posted the picture that I was going to post anyway.. LOL If I don't see you before Christmas, you and yours have a Merry Christmas. WES www.ClassicHeartbeat.com

XXL · 12-21-2002, 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by WES
If I broke a rule like that well then so be it... I would rather break a rule than sit back and watch someone get ripped off. WES

Not trying to start a flame war, and I don't disagree with your motives one bit... but this is the basis of ethical relativism-- It's OK because you were doing something wrong (in this case violating Ebay rules) to do something right. At what point does your 'wrong' become a wrong?

There was a guy named Todd Broom in DFW back in the 1980's who was at Irving Mall and saw a guy smacking around his girlfriend (not Todd's, the guy's). So Todd left the mall, walked to the far side of his parking lot, opened is car, got out his .357 pistol with laser scope (no kidding), walked back in and killed the guy with a few shots to the body. He was doing something wrong (obviously) to protect some lady (something noble, right, etc.).

There were rules in place (as with Ebay) to address the situation at the mall, and it didn't involve vigilantism. What happens when it turns out (though not likely, given your level of expertise on these trucks) that you're wrong... and the guy loses a sale because you scared away the bidder with incorrect information?

'Nuff said.

</soapbox>

Now we return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

Kenneth

**Classic Heartbeat** · 12-21-2002, 03:00 PM

Heck Kenneth I didn't think that you were trying to start a flame war, nor would I even contribute to one. We all have our opinions and that is one of the things that make us individules.

But there is a big difference between shooting someone because he is beating up his girlfriend and notifying someone they are about to get ripped off. As I said I e-mailed the seller and he didn't even respond back to me, nor obviously did he pull the auction. Would you notify your neighbor there was a thief in his garage or stand by and watch him clean him out? This was a retoricle question obviously, because we all know you wouldn't allow that. If I broke a rule with ebay. Well then so be it. I will live with the consiquences, if any. But I won't hide behind a new identidy and continue doing what was probly what caused him to change his identity to begin with. (again speculation) But you have to admit something smells fishy about his auctions and his new identity shades. I hope you and yours have a Merry Christmas and may the underside of your tree be filled with truck parts... LOL WES www.ClassicHeartbeat.com

greasemonkey · 12-21-2002, 03:17 PM

You could always shoot the seller. J/k

XXL · 12-21-2002, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WES
Would you notify your neighbor there was a thief in his garage or stand by and watch him clean him out?

No, actually I'd call 911 (which is the established procedure for such things) :-)

Quote:

Originally posted by WES
But you have to admit something smells fishy about his auctions and his new identity shades.

Shades don't necessarily mean anything sinister. When you create an account on ebay, you get shades for the first 30 days. The guy opened his account on 12-9... so he gets shades. While that doesn't make him "shady," it certainly doesn't preclude the possibility that he has multiple accounts... but it doesn't indicate that he does either.

Quote:

Originally posted by WES
I hope you and yours have a Merry Christmas and may the underside of your tree be filled with truck parts... LOL WES

Woohoo! Wes is sending me som truck parts!!

Thanks for the good words. You enjoy your holidays too!

Kenneth

12-20-2002, 11:14 AM	#1
Classic Heartbeat Project Junkie! Fishing Poor!! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Olympia,Wa. 98512 Posts: 10,768	Another Ebay rip off....... Tilt column.. Ya right!! Does this column look like a tilt to you guys? Not to me... Either the guy doesn't have a clue about these trucks or he is trying to scam someone. He has shades and zero feedback...hmmm... It doesn't even look like a truck column to me.... It looks like a van column with the long spline shaft on the end... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1874846541 Someone is going to be dissapointed. WES www.ClassicHeartbeat.com __________________ On-line catolog Classic Heartbeat Pickup Parts WEHEPP@comcast.net Call us Toll Free (888) 338-2502 Like Us on Facebook No appointment necessary. 72 BB Chevy Custom Deluxe / Custom Camper 67 I-6 (Soon to be 5.7 LS1) Panel 68 BB Chevy Short Bed 72 6.0 LQ9 Short Bed Chevy 4X4 Olympia's fastest growing truck parts supplier. Olympia's home for Wayward Chevys

12-20-2002, 11:28 AM	#2
BUXMAN66 go bucks! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: MIAMISBURG OHIO USA Posts: 803	tilt........... my ass! no kidding ,he'll def. be disappointed! __________________ '68 swb 1/2t 350/350th '86 lngbd 3/4 TON parts getter '49 gmc 1/2 t 5 window 350/350th '96 gmc sonoma sle ext-cab. hey it's a 4cyl. 5 spd and good on gas y'know?

12-20-2002, 11:34 AM	#3
Classic Heartbeat Project Junkie! Fishing Poor!! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Olympia,Wa. 98512 Posts: 10,768	I emailed both the seller and high bidder to let them know about what I see as a problem and for the buyer to be carefull of what he is bidding on. WES www.ClassicHeartbeat.com __________________ On-line catolog Classic Heartbeat Pickup Parts WEHEPP@comcast.net Call us Toll Free (888) 338-2502 Like Us on Facebook No appointment necessary. 72 BB Chevy Custom Deluxe / Custom Camper 67 I-6 (Soon to be 5.7 LS1) Panel 68 BB Chevy Short Bed 72 6.0 LQ9 Short Bed Chevy 4X4 Olympia's fastest growing truck parts supplier. Olympia's home for Wayward Chevys

12-20-2002, 11:35 AM	#4
JJR Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Leesburg, GA Posts: 746	Good call WES. Looks like there will be some bid retractions in the near future. Look at his other auctions. He lists a "67-71 Z28" intake manifold that is a cast iron quadrajet manifold. Last time I checked the Z28 manifolds were high rise aluminum set-up for a square bore Holley. Here is the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1874960181 He either doesn't know what he really has or is trying to rip people off. __________________ FOUNDING MEMBER OF THE DRUM BRAKE CLUB Second Owner 70 C-10 Second Owner 93 GMC C1500 Third Owner 99 C2500 Crew Cab Short Bed

12-20-2002, 11:52 AM	#5
1971LT1SWBPOSI373 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Springfield, VA Posts: 460	That's no high rise intake manifold that he has listed. It's just a plain Jane 4 barrel intake that looks like its been laying out in the woods somewhere. Those are a dime a dozen.............. __________________ 1971 Shortbed 350/350 w/ Posi-traction 3:73's 1996 Chevy Silverado TJ in Springfield, Virginia Likes old Chevy trucks Drinks Miller MGD

12-20-2002, 12:36 PM	#6
jostrans68 Jostrans68 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Bloomington indiana Posts: 1,182	not to stir the pot but it may be a tilt look at collor in enlarged not sure you judge Attached Images __________________ [CGTW Member former 67-72 now with a 96 silverado Last edited by jostrans68; 12-20-2002 at 12:38 PM.

12-20-2002, 12:54 PM	#7
Classic Heartbeat Project Junkie! Fishing Poor!! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Olympia,Wa. 98512 Posts: 10,768	Jack, I thought about that but here is a picture of a tilt... You can see that they aren't even close. WES ClassicHeartbeat.com __________________ On-line catolog Classic Heartbeat Pickup Parts WEHEPP@comcast.net Call us Toll Free (888) 338-2502 Like Us on Facebook No appointment necessary. 72 BB Chevy Custom Deluxe / Custom Camper 67 I-6 (Soon to be 5.7 LS1) Panel 68 BB Chevy Short Bed 72 6.0 LQ9 Short Bed Chevy 4X4 Olympia's fastest growing truck parts supplier. Olympia's home for Wayward Chevys Last edited by Classic Heartbeat; 10-04-2007 at 06:47 PM.

12-20-2002, 12:55 PM	#8
jostrans68 Jostrans68 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Bloomington indiana Posts: 1,182	I lightened it a bit Attached Images __________________ [CGTW Member former 67-72 now with a 96 silverado Last edited by jostrans68; 12-20-2002 at 12:58 PM.

12-20-2002, 12:59 PM	#9
jostrans68 Jostrans68 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Bloomington indiana Posts: 1,182	wes that tire doesnt look like a tilt but here Attached Images __________________ [CGTW Member former 67-72 now with a 96 silverado

12-20-2002, 01:01 PM	#10
1971Stepside Almost Satisfied Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 2,932	LOL @ Wes.....been there done that! __________________ 1971 C10 Stepside. LSx 6.0 with BTR Stage IV, Speed Engineering Headers, 4L80e transmission w/3200 Circle-D Stall. 3.73. Posi. Purchased this truck when I was 17. I started the rebuild (or take apart) in 1993. I have drug it around all over the country in pieces. Finally back on the road in 2021. "I can't complain, but sometimes I still do. Life's been good to me so far."

12-20-2002, 01:12 PM	#11
Yellow Cheyenne Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Eastern Kansas Posts: 488	I would guess it is not a tilt. The gear indicator is the larger type that the non tilt uses, not the skinny (usually missing) type that tilt has. Also appears to have the newer style hazard cancel knob. __________________ '72 Cheyenne. AC, PS, PB, Rear slider window, tilt. Light yellow (grapefruit yellow according to new sales literature from '72) '56 Chevy short step V-8 (My dad bought it new!!) '70 Olds 442 convertible '70 Olds Rallye 350

12-20-2002, 01:29 PM	#12
Rod Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Eastern - Manitoba Canada, Winnipeg Posts: 4,369	By the look of the screw to hold the indicator for the fiber optic cable, and the location of the neutral safety... Id say its not even a tilt, and a normal van column. Tilt column would only have the holder for the plastic indicator. Here's a pic of a truck tilt... judge for your self the neutral safety position.... van ones are further up the column. Attached Images __________________ Senior active founding member. 70 3/4 ton GMC Suburban 4x4 250/4 spd. 71 1/2 ton Suburban Chevy 4x4, 350/350 72 Chev 1 ton tow truck 402BB w/Holmes 440 wrecker on propane 2005 FLSTSCI Harley Springer 85 FXSB Harley Lowrider 72 Triumph 650 Bonneville 5spd "Poor people don't have hobbies" Quote from wife.

12-20-2002, 01:33 PM	#13
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Look how high the idding is too...200 bucks!

12-20-2002, 01:40 PM	#15
Classic Heartbeat Project Junkie! Fishing Poor!! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Olympia,Wa. 98512 Posts: 10,768	I posted the wron picture and then couldn't get back on to fix it...LOL Phone got buisy..lol Thanks Jack for posting the picture of the tilt in my Cheyenne.... WES www.ClassicHeartbeat.com __________________ On-line catolog Classic Heartbeat Pickup Parts WEHEPP@comcast.net Call us Toll Free (888) 338-2502 Like Us on Facebook No appointment necessary. 72 BB Chevy Custom Deluxe / Custom Camper 67 I-6 (Soon to be 5.7 LS1) Panel 68 BB Chevy Short Bed 72 6.0 LQ9 Short Bed Chevy 4X4 Olympia's fastest growing truck parts supplier. Olympia's home for Wayward Chevys

12-20-2002, 08:49 PM	#16
mikep Used to have a truck Join Date: May 2002 Location: port orchard WA Posts: 1,552	I lost me ebay account once because I emailed whoever bid on a certain individuals merchandise to let them know about his practices. I paid for heads I never got . The package got broken open in the mail,. Fedex wouldnt honor the insurance because of poor packaging and I got nothing! $350 down the tubes. Went the whole safe harbor route . Still nothing. He wouldnt even return my emails. After that every time he put anything for sale I would contact the bidder and send them the details of what happened. Cost him a lot of business . Sometimes I'd even bid his items up and then not pay. Lost a couple of accounts that way too. Finally he stopped putting items for sale under that pseudonym. I'd do it all again! __________________ No truck :-(



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12-20-2002, 08:55 PM	#17
Tynee I miss this truck. Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Lexington, KY U.S.A. Posts: 2,863	Wes, those wild country's are great tires aren't they. Had a set exactly like what you've got on a '91 4X4. They'd go anywhere, and still had half the tread @50K miles when I wrecked the truck. __________________ '07 GMC Acadia SLT. Sweet ride. '08 Crew Cab Z-71 short bed. Really like this truck A LOT.

12-20-2002, 09:54 PM	#18
Classic Heartbeat Project Junkie! Fishing Poor!! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Olympia,Wa. 98512 Posts: 10,768	Ya, I like the wild countries.. They run quiet and I drive down the road strait. I havn't had the truck long enough to see how long the will last, but they seem pretty good. Kenneth, I tried to email the seller and give him a chance to rectify his auction and got no responce. This is why I emailed the person who was winning the auction at the time. I never knew about the rule that says that you can't notify the bidder of a problem, but to tell you the truth I wouldn't have cared. I bought a truck from Pencilvania that was missrepresented on the auction and have seen other trucks selling in the tens of thousands of dollars being passed off as origanals on ebay also. The poor guy that doesn't know any better later finds out he was lied to and has no reprecussions except to tell ebay about it. The guy looses his account but so what.. Ebay will just open a new one and like this guy will go on under another assumed identity and the bidder is just out the money he sent. The sell then proceeds to rip the next person off.... If I broke a rule like that well then so be it... I would rather break a rule than sit back and watch someone get ripped off. WES www.ClassicHeartbeat.com __________________ On-line catolog Classic Heartbeat Pickup Parts WEHEPP@comcast.net Call us Toll Free (888) 338-2502 Like Us on Facebook No appointment necessary. 72 BB Chevy Custom Deluxe / Custom Camper 67 I-6 (Soon to be 5.7 LS1) Panel 68 BB Chevy Short Bed 72 6.0 LQ9 Short Bed Chevy 4X4 Olympia's fastest growing truck parts supplier. Olympia's home for Wayward Chevys

12-21-2002, 12:37 AM	#19
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Amen Wes...Amen.

12-21-2002, 04:56 AM	#20
jostrans68 Jostrans68 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Bloomington indiana Posts: 1,182	Well I also emailed the buyer as i have been ripped on a column on ebay ..He responded tonite as to how I know its wrong I sent him wes's photo not the wheels Wes the column and pointed out the diffs I will see what he says as for getting in trouble o well ebay has become a addiction too soe maybe one less....Jack __________________ [CGTW Member former 67-72 now with a 96 silverado

12-21-2002, 12:34 PM	#21
Classic Heartbeat Project Junkie! Fishing Poor!! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Olympia,Wa. 98512 Posts: 10,768	You are not going to let me live that post down are you Jack!! LOL I couldn't get right back to it to delete it and post the right picture, because it got buisy around here.... When I finally got back to it, you had already posted the picture that I was going to post anyway.. LOL If I don't see you before Christmas, you and yours have a Merry Christmas. WES www.ClassicHeartbeat.com __________________ On-line catolog Classic Heartbeat Pickup Parts WEHEPP@comcast.net Call us Toll Free (888) 338-2502 Like Us on Facebook No appointment necessary. 72 BB Chevy Custom Deluxe / Custom Camper 67 I-6 (Soon to be 5.7 LS1) Panel 68 BB Chevy Short Bed 72 6.0 LQ9 Short Bed Chevy 4X4 Olympia's fastest growing truck parts supplier. Olympia's home for Wayward Chevys

12-21-2002, 03:00 PM	#23
Classic Heartbeat Project Junkie! Fishing Poor!! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Olympia,Wa. 98512 Posts: 10,768	Heck Kenneth I didn't think that you were trying to start a flame war, nor would I even contribute to one. We all have our opinions and that is one of the things that make us individules. But there is a big difference between shooting someone because he is beating up his girlfriend and notifying someone they are about to get ripped off. As I said I e-mailed the seller and he didn't even respond back to me, nor obviously did he pull the auction. Would you notify your neighbor there was a thief in his garage or stand by and watch him clean him out? This was a retoricle question obviously, because we all know you wouldn't allow that. If I broke a rule with ebay. Well then so be it. I will live with the consiquences, if any. But I won't hide behind a new identidy and continue doing what was probly what caused him to change his identity to begin with. (again speculation) But you have to admit something smells fishy about his auctions and his new identity shades. I hope you and yours have a Merry Christmas and may the underside of your tree be filled with truck parts... LOL WES www.ClassicHeartbeat.com __________________ On-line catolog Classic Heartbeat Pickup Parts WEHEPP@comcast.net Call us Toll Free (888) 338-2502 Like Us on Facebook No appointment necessary. 72 BB Chevy Custom Deluxe / Custom Camper 67 I-6 (Soon to be 5.7 LS1) Panel 68 BB Chevy Short Bed 72 6.0 LQ9 Short Bed Chevy 4X4 Olympia's fastest growing truck parts supplier. Olympia's home for Wayward Chevys

12-21-2002, 03:17 PM	#24
greasemonkey Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Pace, FL Posts: 2,155	You could always shoot the seller. J/k __________________ 1942 Master Deluxe 1969 C/10 1985 Blazer CUCV 1987 Jimmy 2004 Tahoe 2005 Silverado 1500 2005 Silverado 3500

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