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My 69 steering wheel is 17 inches, original. If I put a smaller, say 15 inch, will that require more turns of the wheel? (Makes sense, but, I've seen information to the contrary). I imagine I would have to put a newer column in. I have no idea, but is there a 3 on the tree tilt wheel available with a smaller steering wheel that would fit?
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Yes, it will require more turns of the wheel with a smaller wheel. It's the same reason track runners want to take the inside lane as quick as possible, and those that start the race at the outer lane get to start further up.
That being said, if you want a smaller wheel, you don't need a new column. Posted via Mobile Device |
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Do you mean will it be harder to turn or will you have to turn it more revolutions to turn all the way left or right?
Yes to harder...less leverage, no to more revolutions...even without a steering wheel on it, the shaft turns the same number of revolutions as with the wheel on...but it is really hard to turn the shaft with no wheel on it.
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I think you need to rethink this. Look at it this way. If you draw a line on the steering shaft (the one under the horn button) and you can turn that shaft 3 1/2 turns, lock to lock, the steering wheel is also going to turn 3 1/2 turns lock to lock no matter how big the diameter is.
Using a smaller diameter steering wheel will only increase the effort it takes to turn it. Going from 17 inch to 15 inch will hardly be noticeable, especially if you have power steering. |
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No such animal as 3 on the tree tilt column
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Check out brotherstrucks.com...they have a tilt 3 on the tree plus they have a sale going on right now
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Ok.... Did a little research on this, and I believe the reason it is so confusing, is that your HANDS are traveling a different circular distance based on the circumference of the steering wheel, while the inner diameter of the steering wheel closest to the steering column doesn't change. So, with a large diameter steering wheel, your hands will travel further distance to turn the tires the same distance as a smaller diameter wheel, while both wheels will travel the same distance at the center by the column.
Now, leverage is a whole other ball of wax, which is why a larger diameter steering wheel would likely take less muscle to turn the tires on a non power steering vehicle Posted via Mobile Device |
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No. A full turn is a full turn, wheel size has no relevance
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correct. same number of "revolutions" lock to lock regardless of wheel diameter (and the revs are what matters). The hands, if on the rim, will actually cover a shorter distance on this same number of revolutions with a smaller diameter wheel (Mr. B's point), but it's not what is meant by "number of turns". If no power steering, going to a 15" wheel would make not having power steering suck even more. I'd keep that cool old stock wheel and enjoy the coolness as is.
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A smaller diameter steering wheel uses less motion for the same effect. You will gain "quicker" steering with a smaller steering wheel,but you lose leverage. With p/s this will not be noticeable. A slightly smaller wheel will barely make a difference in effort. If you have play in your steering,a smaller steering wheel will give the effect of less wander due to less motion required to correct steering.
When we say 3spd we are referring to a three speed manual transmission. Same with 4spd. This comes from when these trucks were made overdrive was not in the picture. Overdrive is tacked on to the final drive gear,so technically speaking,a 700r4 (for instance) is a 3pd + overdrive. Traditionally,with automatic transmissions,we refer to them by name...Powerglide,TH350,TH400,700r4,4L80E,etc. I've never heard of a Powerglide identified as a 2spd transmission
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