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Metal Lathe
I really, really want a metal lathe. I actually took one in trade for some work I did for a company last year, but it's broken. They said they've ordered the parts, but I'm tired of waiting.
I've looked at a lot of lathes, both new and used, and I know some features I want. I want to be able to cut SAE and metric threads, I want to be able to turn anything from plastic to stainless steel, and I want it to run on 115v, but I could go with 230v if I need to because I installed a 230v outlet for my plasma cutter. I've looked at some combo units with a milling machine, and that would be nice but not absolutely necessary at this point. So, given all that and a budget of no more than $2500, what do you recommend?
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Re: Metal Lathe
Look at what grizzly has to offer.. I have a small grizzly that works fine, I just wish I had a bigger headstock hole.. I'm thinking of upsizing mine in the future
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Re: Metal Lathe
You rung my Bell
![]() Are you ready ![]() I have a 10" Atlas Craftsman lathe (Probably 1940ish) It has flat ways. I like it, I use it all the time. I do not recommend a Flat ways lathe though. I am restoring a Logan 200 10" lathe currently. It was made in 1942. It has a Vee way like most. Before my Daddy passed away, he drug home a New Haven lathe. It dates around 1890-1910. It is a 14"-16" swing, I can't remember. It's at the shop at Momma's. With all that said I am a Sucker for old lathes. But the bad thing about that is, the parts that cannot be easily made For the lathe itself can SOME times be bought on E BaYY for a Premium. ![]() I also have a 7"x 10 HF mini lathe. ![]() I Do NOT recommend a Lathe Mill combo. They are hardly ever perpendicular to each other. I have a Grizzly Mill drill. Grizzly makes some good stuff, Here is one in the price range. Link: https://www.grizzly.com/products/gri...gearbox/g9972z An older one is going to probably need work. One more thing I have an Atlas 7B shaper. Did I tell you I like old machines. ![]() I will see if I can search for one other than that Grizzly tonight. If you're still reading this ![]() ![]() I suggest no smaller than 10" swing. At least 24" between centers. I would stay away for variable drive. But that's just me because I like old stuff. Wait I allready told you that ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Re: Metal Lathe
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I looked around for an older, American made lathe, but the prices people were asking put those out of reach. I used the bed from the Jet lathe and lengthened it to fit the Baileigh. I've been working with it for a while, just practicing in steel and aluminum. I'm getting a pretty good finish in aluminum and getting close with steel. I haven't really built any practical parts yet, but I'm having fun learning. I got the tailstock alignment dialed in and the ways level within .0005 over the length of the bed, so I think it's cutting pretty true. I also modified it with a quick change tool post, which makes things a lot more convenient. I still need to buy a few parts, but at least I've got enough to get me started and to get some practice.
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I would be glad to help:metal As an Experienced machinist taught me. I will state it nicer than he Did ![]() All I need is a Blueprint and Clear and Detailed instructions ![]() With that being said. truckers is Street smart on this stuff. I would be glad to help if I can. Because I work at a shop with a Lot of years of combined Experience. truckster what is your status with this project?
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Re: Metal Lathe
The one I took in trade is a Jet BD-920N. I know the lever for setting thread pitch and the crossfeed spindle are broken, and the tailstock spindle seems to be frozen. I don't think parts are available for it anymore.
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Re: Metal Lathe
Another place I was employed had a Jet lathe.
![]() It was a Piece of Junk. We have Mutiple lathes and one Jet lathe where I am currently employed. I will just say this. They let me have one piece of machinery that was going to go to scrap. If they was going to give that Jet lathe to me. No Thanks. Maybe some of them are, okay?
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Re: Metal Lathe
How about a Baileigh lathe? The model is PL-1022VS. Any good?
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Re: Metal Lathe
Baileigh makes some very good stuff,dont know anything about they're lathes, but we have their benders at work..top notch stuff
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Re: Metal Lathe
Yes, Baileigh has a Great reputation.
I realize you are probably not interested in an old Lathe. ![]() Alot of Old Lathes have threaded Chucks. This Means no reverse spindle Rotation. So with that being Typed, ![]() I have been looking on this website that keeps popping up. I just order a Planishing hammer from them. https://www.vevor.com/ They have some small Lathes. Then sometimes On special /They have a 10" or 11" swing. They seem to be the next A mo Zon. I have held back from buying another lathe from them. They have some good deals.
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I've looked at the Vevors. They're made in China, so I wonder how they compare to the Grizzly, which are also made in China. I don't think the Baileigh has a threaded chuck. I think some of the accessories that I got with the Jet might work with the Baileigh. I asked for a shipping quote, and if it's not too much I think I'll go for it.
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Would I buy a Craftsman Atlas again? No. I am invested in it now. Yeah , Most lathes are China made now. Only the Old School lathes have the threaded chucks. The newer ones have bolt patten or D1-4 or so on.
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Re: Metal Lathe
I've had.my Causing 4902 10"x 24" for about 15 years and love it. I bought it as a non working unit but found somebody had miss wired the reversing switch...after a lot of head scratching figuring that thing out it worked great. I really want a bigger one now and at least want a 12"x36". When buying one try and find one with lots of tooling included. Mine came with none and I've spent way more on tooling than the cost of the lathe.
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Re: Metal Lathe
That's good advice - I've looked at the cost of tooling. The Jet lathe I took in trade came with a lot of tooling, so I'll hold on to that. I know I'll need some center drills a few other things, but I'm hoping that the extra chucks and face plate and other bits I got with the Jet will work with whatever I buy. I know the tailstocks of the Jet and Baileigh are both MT-2, so that should work, but the Baileigh website oddly doesn't have the specifications for the spindle taper.
As far as space, the Jet is in my shop. My plan, if I get the Baileigh, is the keep the Jet base and cabinet and mount it the Baileigh on it, so it should take up the same room.
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Re: Metal Lathe
I looked on the website of baileigh.
With the spindle bore being(Spindle Bore 0.787") It would have to be MT3. Link: https://drill-hq.com/2012/04/morse-t...ensions-chart/ MorseTaperDimensionsChart Taper# A D L B K 0 0.3561 0.2520 0.5625 2.3438 1.7813 1 0.4750 0.3690 0.7500 2.5625 1.8125 2 0.7000 0.5720 0.8750 3.1250 2.2500 3 0.9380 0.7780 1.1875 3.8750 2.6875 4 1.2310 1.0200 1.2500 4.8750 3.6250 5 1.7480 1.4750 1.5000 6.1250 4.6250 6 2.4940 2.1160 1.7500 8.5625 6.8125 7 3.2700 2.7500 2.6250 11.6250 9.0000
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Re: Metal Lathe
I currently have a Myford Super 7
Likely too small for your needs but excellent small lathes with a stellar reputation. Draw backs, to the Myfords, are a small bore in the headstock and screw on chucks. And the price as they are at the top end of pricing for smaller lathes. My wife has no idea how many lathes I have. LOL She doesn't care either but they are around the shop. 3" Sherlines to a 15" Polish lathe. Love them all. I have used Jets and they are built on price. My brother-in-law has one and he hit the headstock with something small and it broke off a piece of bondo that was almost 1/4" thick. I typically stay away from them. However, a Jet Lathe is better than no lathe so don't rule them out completely. Except for the 9" and under sizes, pretty worthless at that price point. Cheers. Last edited by Accelo; 02-11-2023 at 04:09 AM. |
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Re: Metal Lathe
Is $1800 (including shipping) a decent price for a used Baileigh PL-1022VS a decent price? I'm thinking I want to pull the trigger...
And MT3 is what the Jet has, so that would make all the accessories compatible, I think.
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Re: Metal Lathe
Well, that's less than half what it cost new.. I would probably jump on it..but I'm wanting something with a larger spindle bore..and powered cross feed
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Re: Metal Lathe
That seems like a decent Price.
I just watched a Video of changing the chuck on the jet you have. I never thought it would be threaded. ![]() So, is the Baileigh PL-1022VS have the same threads ? I could not find the info on that. ![]() Or does the $1800.oo price include a 3 jaw and 4 jaw chuck?
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Re: Metal Lathe
Good deal about the purchase
![]() I will be watching for the new post. ![]() I enjoy buying more tooling for my lathe. ![]() I even have a 5C collet chuck. With collets by the 64th. I bet you enjoy teaching the principles of engineering class. I have taught my 16-year-old nephew to, read calipers, read a tape measure and use a decimal drill chart. I get some of my tooling from CDCO Link: http://cdcotools.com/
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Thank you to everyone for your help. I'll start a new post once I get it up and running.
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Re: Metal Lathe
Do yourself a favor and get a quick change tool post for it..money well spent..
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