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Original Style Steering Wheel on Ididit Column?
We're building a '51 GMC at work and will be using an Ididit coulmn that uses a '69+ style steering wheel. The owners would like to keep the truck as original looking as possible (within reason) so we'd like to use an original style/period correct/vintage wheel. A GMC horn button would be a nice addition, as would a smaller 15 or 16" diameter. Any ideas or suggestions?
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Re: Original Style Steering Wheel on Ididit Column?
flysocal did a great job on modifying his steering wheel in his build...
well it looks like pirates bucket got the pics in his thread to.... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=674804 Last edited by mongocanfly; 07-25-2017 at 03:06 PM. |
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Re: Original Style Steering Wheel on Ididit Column?
Yeah, found his thread but the pics are gone. I've shrunk the outer rim before on the wheel for my '66 C10, but the '51 hub won't work with the ididit column. I guess a hub swap could be done but that would be a ton of work. I did find '55 Belair style wheels in 15" that'll work on an ididit column but they're out of stock everywhere.
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Re: Original Style Steering Wheel on Ididit Column?
does the ididit have a different spline than a GM column? GM has had the same spline since the 40s, I have a picture somewhere of a 47 steering wheel on a 1999 GM column. bolted right on (after I took off the airbag clockspring)
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Re: Original Style Steering Wheel on Ididit Column?
Even if it bolts on, the back of the steering wheel won't match up with the outside diameter of the column. Plus it won't have the tabs to cancel the turn signal switch, and the horn contacts are probably different. The back of the '51 wheel where it meets the column is only 2.75".
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Re: Original Style Steering Wheel on Ididit Column?
All my photobucket shots/build thread got wiped, but I am working on getting them to Flicker....however, can't seem to get the Flickr shots to embed in the image link, but here's a couple links to an Ididit hot rod column with a 54 wheel in a 49 truck.:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/103194...7684031425944/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/103194...7684031425944/
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Re: Original Style Steering Wheel on Ididit Column?
I have an Ididit column with a stock steering wheel. It's sort of a hack job but works for me. I'm sure someone could easily improve on the idea but I'm limited by my skills, tools and patience.
I used a Grant adapter and drilled 3 holes through the stock steering wheel. The adapter covers the large opening of the column, but I have no horn due to the bolts I added. My horn cap is just installed with 3M tape. This is similar to what I used: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/g...del/c10-pickup |
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Re: Original Style Steering Wheel on Ididit Column?
Dam , I was hoping someone had made this work, I was going to try it myself. Oh well.
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Re: Original Style Steering Wheel on Ididit Column?
^^^^same here^^^^
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Re: Original Style Steering Wheel on Ididit Column?
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Re: Original Style Steering Wheel on Ididit Column?
That looks nice, any info on adapters? or will it bolt right on?
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Re: Original Style Steering Wheel on Ididit Column?
...Hey Shannen, thanks for getting my pictures up.
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http://rmmotorsports.com/ ...I talked to a guy there (John Holyfield) & sent him my steering wheel. He does a lot of this. For a fee, he adapted the steering wheel to the column and then sent it to me. A visit to the paint shop and then I had it installed it. We also used Ididit's adjustable floor mount bracket at the firewall (there are other options, too)
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Re: Original Style Steering Wheel on Ididit Column?
Sorry, not my project. Those are the pictures Hampshire was attempting to link.
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Re: Original Style Steering Wheel on Ididit Column?
It looks like the '54 wheel is larger at the base than the 47-53. If you could get a measurement of the base of the '54 wheel vs the head of the Ididit column, that would help answer your question.
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Re: Original Style Steering Wheel on Ididit Column?
hampshire..that looks great..thanks for the info on where you got it done
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Re: Original Style Steering Wheel on Ididit Column?
The base of the 54 wheel and the diameter of the Ididit column were very close if not the same.
What led me make this change was that the roller bearing head on the original column had so much play (even with a new bearing) that it made a knocking sound at the slightest bump. Eliminating the noise plus getting self cancelling turn signals did it for me.
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Re: Original Style Steering Wheel on Ididit Column?
1Project2 Many - I REALLY like the way this wheel looks. I know that's not the subject of this thread, but I just thought I'd mention it.
I've been planning to replace my wheel with something a smaller diameter. But the pic makes me re-think if I can graft my center on a smaller wheel by welding and using JBWeld or some other epoxy? Been thinking about this awhile and found THIS color combo somewhere:
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Re: Original Style Steering Wheel on Ididit Column?
Dan. .I think what flysocal did was use a camaro ring and the AD center.and I think he used a eastwood steering wheel restoration kit along with some filler and paint..
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Re: Original Style Steering Wheel on Ididit Column?
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Re: Original Style Steering Wheel on Ididit Column?
Thanks for all the info, the '54 wheel looks like the way to go. I've reduced the diameter of a '66 wheel to 15" before so I'll find a '54 wheel and do a rim swap. I used PC-7 epoxy, which I think is the same thing Eastwood sells.
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Re: Original Style Steering Wheel on Ididit Column?
Dan, I like the colors of the wheel you found.
When I repaired my original wheel I used a plastic repair epoxy, supposed to be more flexible. I also used flex additive in the paint. Over the years the cracks have come back but they are only visible when turning the wheel. When the truck is parked is tough to see them. I don't know if I would have had better luck with a hard epoxy. |
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Re: Original Style Steering Wheel on Ididit Column?
http://qualityrestorations.com/
This guy can take your factory wheel and make diameter smaller as well as fit to column |
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Re: Original Style Steering Wheel on Ididit Column?
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I found a vintage 15" wheel on ebay and it arrived today. I'll post the process of swapping the 15" rim onto a '54/55 style wheel.
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Re: Original Style Steering Wheel on Ididit Column?
Knowing the amount of labor it takes to shrink and restore a wheel, $1000 wouldn't be unreasonable. That's only 20 hours at $50/hour. He has a lot of time creating the molds he uses to recast the wheels so there's that cost he has to add in.
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