Pull tranny... or not to pull tranny... that is the question - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

toddtheodd · 08-19-2009, 05:19 PM

So...
I already know I'm pulling the motor to replace it.

It is a 350 in a 72 c-10.
Now... do I pull the th350 tranny at the same time... or just disconnect the tranny and leave it in the truck?
I'm sooooooooooo on the fence about this.
I'm going to be doing this all in my driveway, and I'm trying to do the LEAST amount of work possible when it come to pulling and sticking this thing...
So... leaving it in the truck, I unbolt the torque converter and the bell housing yes? Kick down cable and... vacuum line??? yes???
Pulling the tranny means unhooking trans cooler lines, speedo cable, and... linkage... uhh... driveshaft and tranny mount...

yes???

69GMCLonghorn · 08-19-2009, 05:25 PM

Yep. It's all a matter of what you want and need to accomplish. Ask yourself some questions:

Are there any leaks in the tranny? Now would be the time to fix them.

Are you detailing the firewall and engine compartment while the engine is out? If so, pulling the tranny will allow you to really make it look a lot nicer.

Do you have ANY DOUBT as to the condition of your tranny? If you do, pull it and have someone take a look at it.

And of course, now would be a good time to throw in a U-joint shattering SHIFT KIT that would rock your world!! HAHA

Wrenchbender Ret · 08-19-2009, 05:27 PM

Leave the trans. in. Put a jack under the pan with a block of wood. Pull the engine forward to clear it & raise it on out. Piece of cake.

Longhorn Man · 08-19-2009, 05:27 PM

there is absolutly no reason to pull it. You are adding 2 feet of metal that you need to manuver by the windshield and heater box, added weight you don't need to mess with, all that trans fluid all over the place...
I've never understood why so many ppl want to pull it when they don't need to.

mclairmo · 08-19-2009, 05:31 PM

Leave it in unless there is good reason to pull it.

toddtheodd · 08-19-2009, 05:34 PM

69GMCLonghorn:
The transmission was pulled out about 2 years ago (truck has been dead a year) and was rebuilt. Trans is in great condition... or at least will be until the motor kills is... MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!... errr... uhhh... I mean... it'll last until I need something stronger MWAHAHAHAHA!!! *cough cough*... heh...

WrenchbenderRet and Longhorn Man:
Thankyou. I was leaning toward not pulling it, and for the life of me I couldn't figure out the pros of pulling it if I'm not doing the detailing or in need of replacing the trans.

Question Answered... Not to pull tranny.

Thanks Y'all!!!

**mr48chev** · 08-19-2009, 05:37 PM

I agree with Longhorn man (as usual) If it doesn't need repairs there is no reason to pull it. And it does add a lot of weight and length to the otherwise easy to pull engine.

You can hook a chain from one frame rail to the other under the trans pan and put a block of wood on it to hold the trans up so that you can roll the truck around.

toddtheodd · 08-19-2009, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr48chev

I agree with Longhorn man (as usual) If it doesn't need repairs there is no reason to pull it. And it does add a lot of weight and length to the otherwise easy to pull engine.

You can hook a chain from one frame rail to the other under the trans pan and put a block of wood on it to hold the trans up so that you can roll the truck around.

I swear... and I may have been drunk at the time... that I once saw a person that had their transmission held up by like... 5 bungie cords from one frame rail to the other... How much does a trans weigh... and how many bungies would it take? I have like... 40 of the darn things.

fixit-p · 08-19-2009, 05:59 PM

"Alas, poor tranny! I knew him well, Horatio, a fellow of infinite
jest, of most excellent fancy. He hath bore me on his back a
thousand times, and now how abhorr'd in my imagination it is!
My gorge rises at it....." That said I'm jumping on the leave it in bandwagon, you can always drop it later if need be... unless you've removed the front rad support it's pretty steep coming in and out I'd rather go to a Shakespeare convention than to do it that way IMO.

mclairmo · 08-19-2009, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fixit-p

"Alas, poor tranny! I knew him well, Horatio, a fellow of infinite
jest, of most excellent fancy. He hath bore me on his back a
thousand times, and now how abhorr'd in my imagination it is!
My gorge rises at it....." That said I'm jumping on the leave it in bandwagon, you can always drop it later if need be... unless you've removed the front rad support it's pretty steep coming in and out I'd rather go to a Shakespeare convention than to do it that way IMO.

Are you talking about the same kind of "tranny" we're all talking about? LOL.

fixit-p · 08-19-2009, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mclairmo

Are you talking about the same kind of "tranny" we're all talking about? LOL.

Why?.... What kind of tranny are we talkin about

I was actually inspired by the Shakespearean title of the thread and felt that Tranny as opposed to Yorick would keep the thread on topic.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

ERASER5 · 08-19-2009, 10:14 PM

Yep. The most misquoted line in all of Shakespear. There is no "well".

mclairmo · 08-19-2009, 05:53 PM

Sounds like it's time for you to experiment. We can place bets on how many bungies it takes to hold up a trans.

toddtheodd · 08-19-2009, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mclairmo

Sounds like it's time for you to experiment. We can place bets on how many bungies it takes to hold up a trans.

Thanks... but no thanks... I don't want to lose that bet... Now... if the tranny was a POS... than sure... we could find out.

Longhorn Man · 08-19-2009, 08:39 PM

I frequently use small racheting straps.... motorcycle straps if you know them by that term. Don't use the harbor freight or dime store junk though.
We won't talk about that day
that was a baaaaaaad day.

toddtheodd · 08-19-2009, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

I frequently use small racheting straps.... motorcycle straps if you know them by that term. Don't use the harbor freight or dime store junk though.
We won't talk about that day
that was a baaaaaaad day.

I just so happen to have 4 of those... Can't remember where I got them though since it's been so long ago... but I know where I didn't get them.
Speaking of which... you spelled it wrong... there is no "e" in harbor fright.

Longhorn Man · 08-19-2009, 09:59 PM

i spell most things wrong.... i got used to it a long time ago.
Besides, they never spell my name right, so they can kiss my 12 bolt!

70clone · 08-19-2009, 10:15 PM

6 bell housing bolts three converter bolts few exhaust bolts and your done from the bottom definately leave the tranny

pmpski_1 · 08-19-2009, 11:15 PM

Couple grade 8 bolts and a 2x4. Leave it be.

FRENCHBLUE72 · 08-19-2009, 11:07 PM

Leave it in just use some good straps to hold her in...

Chada · 08-20-2009, 11:50 AM

I went through the same thing with the truck I am currently building. I decided since the motor was out and the truck was pulled down and I really did not know the history of the tranny to have it rebuilt. Good thing I did too cause it was junk and the rebuilder could barely reuse even the case. Got it totally rebuilt with hardened parts and a shift kit and new torque converter for 571 bucks for a bench job. And once you get it back its easy to put both engine and tranny back in together with an engine hoist which you can rent if need be.

08-19-2009, 05:19 PM	#1
toddtheodd The oddest Todd around Join Date: May 2004 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,418	Pull tranny... or not to pull tranny... that is the question So... I already know I'm pulling the motor to replace it. It is a 350 in a 72 c-10. Now... do I pull the th350 tranny at the same time... or just disconnect the tranny and leave it in the truck? I'm sooooooooooo on the fence about this. I'm going to be doing this all in my driveway, and I'm trying to do the LEAST amount of work possible when it come to pulling and sticking this thing... So... leaving it in the truck, I unbolt the torque converter and the bell housing yes? Kick down cable and... vacuum line??? yes??? Pulling the tranny means unhooking trans cooler lines, speedo cable, and... linkage... uhh... driveshaft and tranny mount... yes??? __________________ "The greatest pleasure is to vanquish your enemies and chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth and see those dear to them bathed in tears, to ride their horses and clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters." Ghengis Khan IIOY??? Last edited by toddtheodd; 08-19-2009 at 05:20 PM.

08-19-2009, 05:25 PM	#2
69GMCLonghorn Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Porter Ranch, CA Posts: 978	Re: Pull tranny... or not to pull tranny... that is the question Yep. It's all a matter of what you want and need to accomplish. Ask yourself some questions: Are there any leaks in the tranny? Now would be the time to fix them. Are you detailing the firewall and engine compartment while the engine is out? If so, pulling the tranny will allow you to really make it look a lot nicer. Do you have ANY DOUBT as to the condition of your tranny? If you do, pull it and have someone take a look at it. And of course, now would be a good time to throw in a U-joint shattering SHIFT KIT that would rock your world!! HAHA

08-19-2009, 05:27 PM	#3
Wrenchbender Ret Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Overland Park, Ks. Posts: 5,228	Re: Pull tranny... or not to pull tranny... that is the question Leave the trans. in. Put a jack under the pan with a block of wood. Pull the engine forward to clear it & raise it on out. Piece of cake.

08-19-2009, 05:27 PM	#4
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Pull tranny... or not to pull tranny... that is the question there is absolutly no reason to pull it. You are adding 2 feet of metal that you need to manuver by the windshield and heater box, added weight you don't need to mess with, all that trans fluid all over the place... I've never understood why so many ppl want to pull it when they don't need to.

08-19-2009, 05:31 PM	#5
mclairmo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Take Off Posts: 1,908	Re: Pull tranny... or not to pull tranny... that is the question Leave it in unless there is good reason to pull it.

08-19-2009, 05:34 PM	#6
toddtheodd The oddest Todd around Join Date: May 2004 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,418	Re: Pull tranny... or not to pull tranny... that is the question 69GMCLonghorn: The transmission was pulled out about 2 years ago (truck has been dead a year) and was rebuilt. Trans is in great condition... or at least will be until the motor kills is... MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!... errr... uhhh... I mean... it'll last until I need something stronger MWAHAHAHAHA!!! cough cough... heh... WrenchbenderRet and Longhorn Man: Thankyou. I was leaning toward not pulling it, and for the life of me I couldn't figure out the pros of pulling it if I'm not doing the detailing or in need of replacing the trans. Question Answered... Not to pull tranny. Thanks Y'all!!! __________________ "The greatest pleasure is to vanquish your enemies and chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth and see those dear to them bathed in tears, to ride their horses and clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters." Ghengis Khan IIOY???

08-19-2009, 05:37 PM	#7
mr48chev Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toppenish, WA Posts: 15,640	Re: Pull tranny... or not to pull tranny... that is the question I agree with Longhorn man (as usual) If it doesn't need repairs there is no reason to pull it. And it does add a lot of weight and length to the otherwise easy to pull engine. You can hook a chain from one frame rail to the other under the trans pan and put a block of wood on it to hold the trans up so that you can roll the truck around.

08-19-2009, 10:14 PM	#12
ERASER5 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 4,859	Re: Pull tranny... or not to pull tranny... that is the question Yep. The most misquoted line in all of Shakespear. There is no "well". __________________ '70 GMC C1500 LWB Power disc brakes. WooHoo! Posi 6 Lug Dana 60

08-19-2009, 05:53 PM	#13
mclairmo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Take Off Posts: 1,908	Re: Pull tranny... or not to pull tranny... that is the question Sounds like it's time for you to experiment. We can place bets on how many bungies it takes to hold up a trans.

08-19-2009, 08:39 PM	#15
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Pull tranny... or not to pull tranny... that is the question I frequently use small racheting straps.... motorcycle straps if you know them by that term. Don't use the harbor freight or dime store junk though. We won't talk about that day that was a baaaaaaad day. Last edited by Longhorn Man; 08-19-2009 at 08:39 PM.

08-19-2009, 09:59 PM	#17
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Pull tranny... or not to pull tranny... that is the question i spell most things wrong.... i got used to it a long time ago. Besides, they never spell my name right, so they can kiss my 12 bolt!

08-19-2009, 10:15 PM	#18
70clone Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: JACKSONVILLE FL Posts: 200	Re: Pull tranny... or not to pull tranny... that is the question 6 bell housing bolts three converter bolts few exhaust bolts and your done from the bottom definately leave the tranny

08-19-2009, 11:15 PM	#19
pmpski_1 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 505	Re: Pull tranny... or not to pull tranny... that is the question Couple grade 8 bolts and a 2x4. Leave it be. __________________ Curry in a Hurry: SB rebuild for my 71 C20

08-19-2009, 11:07 PM	#20
FRENCHBLUE72 PROJECT 7DEUCE Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: GRANTS PASS OR Posts: 21,608	Re: Pull tranny... or not to pull tranny... that is the question Leave it in just use some good straps to hold her in... __________________ GO BIG GREEN GO DUCKS MEMBER #6377 72 k-5 daily driver 6'' lift 35'' 350-350-205 slowly getting rust free. Project "7DEUCE" check out my build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=267665 Tim Powell..R.I.P EastSideLowlife..... R.I.P..

08-20-2009, 11:50 AM	#21
Chada Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Midlothian, Virginia Posts: 56	Re: Pull tranny... or not to pull tranny... that is the question I went through the same thing with the truck I am currently building. I decided since the motor was out and the truck was pulled down and I really did not know the history of the tranny to have it rebuilt. Good thing I did too cause it was junk and the rebuilder could barely reuse even the case. Got it totally rebuilt with hardened parts and a shift kit and new torque converter for 571 bucks for a bench job. And once you get it back its easy to put both engine and tranny back in together with an engine hoist which you can rent if need be. Last edited by Chada; 08-20-2009 at 11:51 AM.



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