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*Randy70C-10* · 03-23-2003, 10:08 PM

I can get a ZZ-3 from a friend in the Streetrod club, with only 600 miles on it for $2,000. Does this sound like a fair price?? (there is nothing wrong with it)

*Randy70C-10* · 03-24-2003, 08:51 AM

26 views and no opinions

I want to hear opinions, even if they aren't good!!

*Randy70C-10* · 03-24-2003, 09:11 AM

OK, maybe I should tell you guys what I'm up to. The Model A is for sale, but not with the 6:71 blown 350. I have decided to put that in the stepside. (Yes, it's true), but I have to have a healthy engine to put back in the Model A as a good selling point.

highwaydevil · 03-24-2003, 09:57 AM

I don't know what a zz-3 is.

**Tim Christian** · 03-24-2003, 10:08 AM

Hey Randy, I have a ZZ-4 myself. I would give $2000.00 for it right now if you don't want it.

Dean · 03-24-2003, 10:41 AM

I bought three new crate ZZ4s and all three have had major problem. All were either defective parts or defective machining. I must be in the minority though. It sure looked good on paper before I bought them. I member thinking "i'll never have to mess with the engine"....lol Good old GM.

*Randy70C-10* · 03-24-2003, 10:47 AM

What kind of problems? (just curious)

Low69CST · 03-24-2003, 12:04 PM

doesn't that engine have a waranty? If its transferable go for it. You'll spend that much building a motor, plus having a crate motor w/ waranty would make a good selling point. I hear many street roders are starting to go that route.

*Randy70C-10* · 03-24-2003, 12:33 PM

Yeah, I've built a couple of engines, and it's definately cheaper to just buy one.

LOHRTBT · 03-24-2003, 12:47 PM

Is it the complete motor or just the block??? Complete...sounds like a good deal..otherwise /...pass!

*Randy70C-10* · 03-24-2003, 01:23 PM

It's intake to oil pan. All I'd need is a carb and distributor, which I already have.

dubie · 03-24-2003, 01:27 PM

BUY IT!!!!!

*Randy70C-10* · 03-24-2003, 01:43 PM

I think I will. If it was being sold by some guy off the street, I'd be suspicious. This guy I've known for a while, he's honest and I trust that he'd never stick anyone with a bad deal, especially one of your own club members from the largest car club in the Tidewater area. Every club member knows each other, we build cars together, help when help is needed, and party together as well. Money isn't an issue, I won't miss it (much too much anyhow) but I will save $1000!!!

hehe

ginter · 03-24-2003, 01:50 PM

Brand new ZZ4's are $3500 (ask me how I know

).

I'd say grab it.

weasel29gm · 03-24-2003, 07:01 PM

Yea Randy that is a good deal besides with 600 miles it's broke in. Since you know the guy that helps alot. Better grab it!!!

**old Rusty C10** · 03-24-2003, 07:51 PM

i cant see anyone getting rid of a motor with so little miles on it unless theres a catch there are no friends in business deals keep clear something smells rotten in VA

*Randy70C-10* · 03-24-2003, 08:33 PM

There was a catch, but I already knew about it. The engine made a tapping sound, so he took it out and replaced it with a ZZ4 before asking around about the noise. Well, I knew as well as everyone else that those engines have roller cams in them. They all tap for a minute until the lifters pump up. The problem is that he has money, but doesn't know much about engines. He never told anyone that it was for sale because he was reluctant about the noise thinking that the engine was bad, and trust me....he'd never sell a bad engine to anyone, friend or not. I found out that he still had it from a very good friend "Joe". He's the guy that owns the yellow 39 Ford coupe that I posted last week. These guys all have money so business isn't much of an issue.

Besides, the deal just got even sweeter....I just finished talking to Barry on the phone and the engine has a polished, jet hot coated intake and an HEI distributor. The "only" thing that it doesn't come with is the carb!!

72shadetree · 03-24-2003, 08:57 PM

go for it

crazy longhorn · 03-24-2003, 08:57 PM

Icaught thread on another board about the tapping in the ZZ3. what I got, it had to do with piston pin offset. If I remember, the eary ZZ crates ran a forged piston,& they made noise when cold(not an issue in my book),any perf eng i have run made a little noise! Did I hear something about sell the model A? ill kick your but for you so you dont have to kick it yourself later!

I would have to agree that the A probably doesnt need a blower.....but its a keeper

crazyL

*Randy70C-10* · 03-24-2003, 09:08 PM

Wanna buy it?

I just heard about the piston pin thing from someone else as well. I never worry much about any noise unless it's a knocking noise.

crazy longhorn · 03-24-2003, 09:22 PM

Man Id love to have that old coupe....but i already have too many toys.....Ill probably be selling a sandrail to cover the trans on my longhorn(6 spd Richmond

) crazyL

*Randy70C-10* · 03-24-2003, 09:54 PM

there is no such thing as too many toys.

BTW, it's a done deal. I'm picking the engine up next Wednesday.

Blue Beard · 03-24-2003, 10:39 PM

You better steal it before he has a chance to change his mind.................

*Randy70C-10* · 03-24-2003, 10:51 PM

Id like to steal it tommorrow, but he's going out of town and won't be back until next week.

*dtlilly* · 03-24-2003, 11:52 PM

Randy,

I don't have any money to buy it, but how much is the Model A?

03-23-2003, 10:08 PM	#1
Randy70C-10 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Virginia Beach, Va. U.S.A. Posts: 15,320	Need opinions on crate ZZ-3 (price) I can get a ZZ-3 from a friend in the Streetrod club, with only 600 miles on it for $2,000. Does this sound like a fair price?? (there is nothing wrong with it)

03-24-2003, 12:04 PM	#8
Low69CST Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Frankfort, Kentucky, USA Posts: 2,163	doesn't that engine have a waranty? If its transferable go for it. You'll spend that much building a motor, plus having a crate motor w/ waranty would make a good selling point. I hear many street roders are starting to go that route. __________________ '69 CST Short fleetside Lowered, 400 small block, 700R4, 4 wheel disc brakes, front sway bar & rear camaro sway bar (in progress) '87 V10 4x4 Short Fleetside Quad Suspension and Dual Tanks

03-24-2003, 12:47 PM	#10
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	Is it the complete motor or just the block??? Complete...sounds like a good deal..otherwise /...pass! __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84

03-24-2003, 01:27 PM	#12
dubie Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Flin Flon, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 8,855	BUY IT!!!!! __________________ My name's Tim and I'm a truckaholic My 56 Chevy shop truck build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=562795

03-24-2003, 07:01 PM	#15
weasel29gm SLOW BUT SURE,BUT CLOSER Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: eleanor wv usa Posts: 3,094	Yea Randy that is a good deal besides with 600 miles it's broke in. Since you know the guy that helps alot. Better grab it!!! __________________ 69 C-10, OWNED 38YRS... 350 over 30, 350 Turbo, 3:73 Posi P/S, P/B Black with red and black int. ''LOVE THESE OLD ''TRUCKS.......

03-24-2003, 08:51 AM	#2
Randy70C-10 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Virginia Beach, Va. U.S.A. Posts: 15,320	26 views and no opinions I want to hear opinions, even if they aren't good!!

03-24-2003, 09:11 AM	#3
Randy70C-10 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Virginia Beach, Va. U.S.A. Posts: 15,320	OK, maybe I should tell you guys what I'm up to. The Model A is for sale, but not with the 6:71 blown 350. I have decided to put that in the stepside. (Yes, it's true), but I have to have a healthy engine to put back in the Model A as a good selling point.

03-24-2003, 09:57 AM	#4
highwaydevil Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Platteville, Colorado Posts: 1,067	I don't know what a zz-3 is.

03-24-2003, 10:08 AM	#5
Tim Christian Senior Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: TN/VA Posts: 6,388	Hey Randy, I have a ZZ-4 myself. I would give $2000.00 for it right now if you don't want it.

03-24-2003, 10:41 AM	#6
Dean Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 1,492	I bought three new crate ZZ4s and all three have had major problem. All were either defective parts or defective machining. I must be in the minority though. It sure looked good on paper before I bought them. I member thinking "i'll never have to mess with the engine"....lol Good old GM.

03-24-2003, 10:47 AM	#7
Randy70C-10 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Virginia Beach, Va. U.S.A. Posts: 15,320	What kind of problems? (just curious)

03-24-2003, 12:33 PM	#9
Randy70C-10 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Virginia Beach, Va. U.S.A. Posts: 15,320	Yeah, I've built a couple of engines, and it's definately cheaper to just buy one.

03-24-2003, 01:23 PM	#11
Randy70C-10 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Virginia Beach, Va. U.S.A. Posts: 15,320	It's intake to oil pan. All I'd need is a carb and distributor, which I already have.

03-24-2003, 01:43 PM	#13
Randy70C-10 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Virginia Beach, Va. U.S.A. Posts: 15,320	I think I will. If it was being sold by some guy off the street, I'd be suspicious. This guy I've known for a while, he's honest and I trust that he'd never stick anyone with a bad deal, especially one of your own club members from the largest car club in the Tidewater area. Every club member knows each other, we build cars together, help when help is needed, and party together as well. Money isn't an issue, I won't miss it (much too much anyhow) but I will save $1000!!! hehe

03-24-2003, 01:50 PM	#14
ginter Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Denver CO. Posts: 156	Brand new ZZ4's are $3500 (ask me how I know ). I'd say grab it.



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03-24-2003, 07:51 PM	#16
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03-24-2003, 08:33 PM	#17
Randy70C-10 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Virginia Beach, Va. U.S.A. Posts: 15,320	There was a catch, but I already knew about it. The engine made a tapping sound, so he took it out and replaced it with a ZZ4 before asking around about the noise. Well, I knew as well as everyone else that those engines have roller cams in them. They all tap for a minute until the lifters pump up. The problem is that he has money, but doesn't know much about engines. He never told anyone that it was for sale because he was reluctant about the noise thinking that the engine was bad, and trust me....he'd never sell a bad engine to anyone, friend or not. I found out that he still had it from a very good friend "Joe". He's the guy that owns the yellow 39 Ford coupe that I posted last week. These guys all have money so business isn't much of an issue. Besides, the deal just got even sweeter....I just finished talking to Barry on the phone and the engine has a polished, jet hot coated intake and an HEI distributor. The "only" thing that it doesn't come with is the carb!!

03-24-2003, 08:57 PM	#18
72shadetree KEEP ON TRUCKING Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: martinsville va Posts: 2,563	go for it __________________ 72 cheyenne 2wd lwb 71 k20 sons bassett va

03-24-2003, 08:57 PM	#19
crazy longhorn Fabricate till you "puke" Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ill Posts: 9,402	Icaught thread on another board about the tapping in the ZZ3. what I got, it had to do with piston pin offset. If I remember, the eary ZZ crates ran a forged piston,& they made noise when cold(not an issue in my book),any perf eng i have run made a little noise! Did I hear something about sell the model A? ill kick your but for you so you dont have to kick it yourself later! I would have to agree that the A probably doesnt need a blower.....but its a keeper crazyL

03-24-2003, 09:08 PM	#20
Randy70C-10 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Virginia Beach, Va. U.S.A. Posts: 15,320	Wanna buy it? I just heard about the piston pin thing from someone else as well. I never worry much about any noise unless it's a knocking noise.

03-24-2003, 09:22 PM	#21
crazy longhorn Fabricate till you "puke" Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ill Posts: 9,402	Man Id love to have that old coupe....but i already have too many toys.....Ill probably be selling a sandrail to cover the trans on my longhorn(6 spd Richmond ) crazyL

03-24-2003, 09:54 PM	#22
Randy70C-10 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Virginia Beach, Va. U.S.A. Posts: 15,320	there is no such thing as too many toys. BTW, it's a done deal. I'm picking the engine up next Wednesday.

03-24-2003, 10:39 PM	#23
Blue Beard Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 8,834	You better steal it before he has a chance to change his mind................. __________________ 1970 Chev CST 2003 Harley Fatboy 1975 Chevrolet Step Van 1956 Chev Bel Air 1977 Blazer 2WD For Sale $3000.00 1978 Blazer 2WD For Sale $7000.00 1978 Silverado 2005 Monte Carlo

03-24-2003, 10:51 PM	#24
Randy70C-10 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Virginia Beach, Va. U.S.A. Posts: 15,320	Id like to steal it tommorrow, but he's going out of town and won't be back until next week.

03-24-2003, 11:52 PM	#25
dtlilly Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Shadow of Lambeau Field Posts: 5,597	Randy, I don't have any money to buy it, but how much is the Model A?

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