body drop. is it worth it? help?

[dbmx66]

hey guys.
i just got my new suspension from mcgaughys. its a 4.5/6 drop.
i want to go 1-2 inches lower without doing anything to the suspension.
how can i get 1 to 2 inches the most cheapest and easiest way.
thanks, david

[Spray-Bomb]

Itd be SO much easier to lower the truck with more of a suspension drop

[dbmx66]

Originally Posted by Spray-Bomb

Itd be SO much easier to lower the truck with more of a suspension drop

how else could i do it? i put on 3 inch drop spindles 1-3 inch drop springs and a flip kit.

i could do drop blocks or take some leafs out, but what would i do in the front?

thanks

[lolife99]

You'd have to bag the front. You have to be able to turn the front tires. You can use a 3" front spring for a 5.5" drop,... but anything lower will require bags and removeal of the inner fenders.

[dbmx66]

Originally Posted by lolife99

You'd have to bag the front. You have to be able to turn the front tires. You can use a 3" front spring for a 5.5" drop,... but anything lower will require bags and removeal of the inner fenders.

thats just if i lower the suspension? what about a body drop? is there any way of getting 1-2 inches easily or how does that work? thanks

[bdydrp97s10]

a bodydrop is anything but easy..

only if you have some serious fab skills should this be attempted.

or if time is no problem for you on the truck and you have a few friends that have done it before should you try it.

its better to have ppl in your area that have done it to help you, its easier to show somebody in person rather than learn how to on the internet

[dbmx66]

Originally Posted by bdydrp97s10

a bodydrop is anything but easy..

only if you have some serious fab skills should this be attempted.

or if time is no problem for you on the truck and you have a few friends that have done it before should you try it.

its better to have ppl in your area that have done it to help you, its easier to show somebody in person rather than learn how to on the internet

yea true, but isnt there some thing i can do with the mounts that 'll drop it like an inch or so with out having to cut up the frame?

[justin26]

porterbuilt is doing a truck for a customer that wanted the pinchwelds to touch the ground so they cut the rivets out of the mounts and lowered them one inch so now thw body sits on the frame do a search for porterbuilt and you will se in the thread what im talking about

[N2TRUX]

Yes, you can get it lower. No, it won't be cheap or easy.

[dbmx66]

Originally Posted by N2TRUX

Yes, you can get it lower. No, it won't be cheap or easy.

what would be my options?

[XXL]

Originally Posted by N2TRUX

Yes, you can get it lower. No, it won't be cheap or easy.

Law of Diminishing Returns (also known as Law of Increasing Opportunity Costs).

Here's a pictorial version...

[bdydrp97s10]

you could do something like justin26 said.. although it wont be easy

and i would say you could only get an inch or so before the frame and body hit. so it probbaly wouldnt be worth the time and effort in my opinion.

youi and i are in the same boat as far as how low we want our trucks. I want my truck lower but cant beacause i want to keep the stock fenderwells.

so you will have to suck it up and bodydrop it or bag it... or just come to a comprimise with how low your truck is now and get used to it like i did.

you can only static drop these truck so far before your wheels start to rub the fenderwells, if your not happy and want to go lower then you need to start cutting.

right now your at a pont where if you want to go lower your going to get into some heavy modifications.

[dbmx66]

Originally Posted by bdydrp97s10

you could do something like justin26 said.. although it wont be easy

and i would say you could only get an inch or so before the frame and body hit. so it probbaly wouldnt be worth the time and effort in my opinion.

youi and i are in the same boat as far as how low we want our trucks. I want my truck lower but cant beacause i want to keep the stock fenderwells.

so you will have to suck it up and bodydrop it or bag it... or just come to a comprimise with how low your truck is now and get used to it like i did.

you can only static drop these truck so far before your wheels start to rub the fenderwells, if your not happy and want to go lower then you need to start cutting.

right now your at a pont where if you want to go lower your going to get into some heavy modifications.

oh okay man, i see what u mean. thnks

[dbmx66]

couldnt i just like z it like an inch or 2 inches?

[N2TRUX]

Yes it can be Z'ed, but it seems you are asking what can "you do". Since you are asking these questions I have taken it that you aren't capable of doing the work yourself.

With that in mind, you will need to find someone "com potent" that can Z your frame. I personally do not recommend this option because you are "cutting your frame" off and it requires someone that knows what they are doing to accomplish it correctly.

To often I have seen backyard hacks try to Z a frame and the results are inadequate and often times unsafe.

With that said, my suggestion would be to consider bagging it. This will take you lower and allow adjust ability in your ride height.

[dbmx66]

Originally Posted by N2TRUX

Yes it can be Z'ed, but it seems you are asking what can "you do". Since you are asking these questions I have taken it that you aren't capable of doing the work yourself.

With that in mind, you will need to find someone "com potent" that can Z your frame. I personally do not recommend this option because you are "cutting your frame" off and it requires someone that knows what they are doing to accomplish it correctly.

To often I have seen backyard hacks try to Z a frame and the results are inadequate and often times unsafe.

With that said, my suggestion would be to consider bagging it. This will take you lower and allow adjust ability in your ride height.

okay thank you. btw i did chop my frame before, i made it into a shortbed and the lines are straight. but i see waht your saying.

[bdydrp97s10]

doing a z is alittle harder than shorthening a frame IMO.. you run into alot more issues with steering and trans to body clearance. engine to hood clearance depending on how tall of a manifold you have, radiator hose routing.

option=YES, easy=NO

I dont mean to sound mean or discouraging in any way, but judging by the way your asking questions you are new to this kind of stuff.

like i said before to go lower you need to start cutting, and if thats what you want to do i woulod find somebody local who is experienced to help you.

[dbmx66]

Originally Posted by bdydrp97s10

doing a z is alittle harder than shorthening a frame IMO.. you run into alot more issues with steering and trans to body clearance. engine to hood clearance depending on how tall of a manifold you have, radiator hose routing.

option=YES, easy=NO

I dont mean to sound mean or discouraging in any way, but judging by the way your asking questions you are new to this kind of stuff.

like i said before to go lower you need to start cutting, and if thats what you want to do i woulod find somebody local who is experienced to help you.

yea, i am new to the whole body drop thing.

[kev2809]

bag that thing!! if you lower the mounts and the body rest on the frame, wouldnt that be rough, or the body mount bushings dont make that big of a difference being on or off?

[dbmx66]

Originally Posted by kev2809

bag that thing!! if you lower the mounts and the body rest on the frame, wouldnt that be rough, or the body mount bushings dont make that big of a difference being on or off?

im not questioning you or anything but i heard the exact opposite.

[bdydrp97s10]

Originally Posted by kev2809

bag that thing!! if you lower the mounts and the body rest on the frame, wouldnt that be rough, or the body mount bushings dont make that big of a difference being on or off?

no no no broski.. not remove the body bushings.. they were talking about taking the mounts on the frame that the bushings sit on and moving them farther down the frame, thus lowering the body.

but i believe the gains would be minimal and not worth the time to do it

[dbmx66]

Originally Posted by bdydrp97s10

no no no broski.. not remove the body bushings.. they were talking about taking the mounts on the frame that the bushings sit on and moving them farther down the frame, thus lowering the body.

but i believe the gains would be minimal and not worth the time to do it

how much drop would i get?

[kev2809]

ah alright, now that makes sense lol. are you wanting to do that without actually raising the floorbed (which is what a body drop is)? or you trying to re weld the body mounts lower to rest the body on the frame? I don't think you would gain that much more, there isn't a whole lot of room in between there. cutting off the mounts would prob. be the most time consuming part of the whole thing

[bdydrp97s10]

Originally Posted by kev2809

ah alright, now that makes sense lol. are you wanting to do that without actually raising the floorbed (which is what a body drop is)? or you trying to re weld the body mounts lower to rest the body on the frame? I don't think you would gain that much more, there isn't a whole lot of room in between there. cutting off the mounts would prob. be the most time consuming part of the whole thing

this mod was mentioned by another board member above, and nate porter is performing this mod on a customer truck i believe.

but yes they are not wanting to cut the floor... and you would probably only gain an inch at best on the cab..

and then you have to consider that the bed is almost already sittin on the frame. so to make it line up with the inch of drop the cab has now, you would have to cut the bedfloor just as you would if you were doing a body drop

[dbmx66]

Originally Posted by bdydrp97s10

this mod was mentioned by another board member above, and nate porter is performing this mod on a customer truck i believe.

but yes they are not wanting to cut the floor... and you would probably only gain an inch at best on the cab..

and then you have to consider that the bed is almost already sittin on the frame. so to make it line up with the inch of drop the cab has now, you would have to cut the bedfloor just as you would if you were doing a body drop

oh okay. well, theres not really much more i can do with the suspension. i have drop spindles and drop coils in front. what else will lower the front 1-2 inches? i have flip kit in rear but im happy where that sits now.