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Old 10-26-2013, 04:00 PM   #1
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Question Heater help!

Well i need help. Surprise surprise right? On my 77 k10, i put a new blower motor and fan blade (metal) but i have nothing through the vents. I have attached pic of my outside wiring where i think the problem is. Also my heater core hoses are only... Lukewarm... Thought they were supposed to get hot as hell?
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Old 10-27-2013, 01:20 AM   #2
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Re: Heater help!

It appears you don't have vacuum connected to your amplifier on the firewall. The black round thing in the front left of your picture. That could keep your blend door from opening. Warm, not hot heater hoses sounds like a bad thermostat.
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Old 10-27-2013, 11:05 AM   #3
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I'll get a new thermostat. Little assurance. It has a vacuum hose goin to the ball thing it goes over the box. Think it goes to the back. But my blower doesn't turn on at all :/
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Old 10-27-2013, 11:25 AM   #4
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Re: Heater help!

So are you not getting power to the blower motor? Also you might want to flush the heater core while you are in there and change the thermostat as you said.
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Old 10-27-2013, 01:07 PM   #5
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Re: Heater help!

See the thread here titled "Heater Blower" about possible causes why your blower motor isn't working. The black round vacuum reservoir only appears to have one vacuum hose attached to it. It needs a vacuum hose from the carb to it then another hose goes inside the cab to the heater control.
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Old 11-06-2013, 08:05 PM   #6
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Re: Heater help!

Well small update. I put i a bew thermostat 195 since it's getting cold this timma year. Hoses only get kinda warm not hot :/ same cab before did this too
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Old 11-07-2013, 11:00 AM   #7
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Re: Heater help!

Its possible, though not probable, that the heater core is nearly completely clogged so that little to no fluid is running through it.

Also, did you check the blower fuse?
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Old 11-07-2013, 01:05 PM   #8
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Will check fuse tonight. Other than this n my driveshaft i'm ready to rock. Where does the big red wire go?
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Old 11-07-2013, 01:24 PM   #9
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Re: Heater help!

Looks like the wire that goes down to your starter but i can't really tell but that would be my guess.
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Old 11-07-2013, 01:26 PM   #10
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So it comes out of the firewall by the ac and heater wires to the starter? Seems odd. Does the vacuum line go to the front port or back port on the ball thing?
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Old 11-07-2013, 01:41 PM   #11
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Well i can't tell where it's coming from in your picture but the connector on the bottom and thickness of wire looks like the one that goes to the starter.
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Old 11-07-2013, 03:16 PM   #12
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Red wire might be the one that runs across the firewall to the junction block.
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Old 11-07-2013, 07:15 PM   #13
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Re: Heater help!

Think i'll look behind the heater box tonight. Surprisingly ye heater core doesn't leak or anything. What about all the green wires? Can i cut-n-tuck them? I won't reinstall the ac.
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Honestly, all of that wiring is a little scary looking. You might want to get a wiring diagram and clean up some of those wires. Its probably not a good idea for us to be guessing what wires are what. That could lead to some serious problems if wrong.
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:22 PM   #15
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It starts n runs string n fine. All lights work just the heater >:/ aggrivating! I'll look tonight for one n i'ma try n get ridda as much as possible for simplicity
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:55 PM   #16
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is there a vacuum controlled valve for hot water to the heater core? if so, bypass it and see if it gets hotter. also the heater hoses have to be hooked up where the return hose goes to the water pump and the supply hose to core comes from intake. I think thats the way it goes.
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Re: Heater help!

Fist thing to do would be to check the power at the blower and go from there. That box the wire to the blower motor comes out of is the relay switch, that would be the next thing. Sometimes you can hit the relay switch and get it going for a bit. There is also a resister but high power is not affected by this.

Get the blower working and then go from there.
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Old 11-07-2013, 09:18 PM   #18
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Old 11-08-2013, 07:29 AM   #19
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Re: Heater help!

So the red goes to the other side (left) of the junction block... And green goes to... Evap control switch. Do i need the evap switch for the heater or no?
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Not sure you need that if you are not using your AC. Did you check the power to the motor?
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Old 11-08-2013, 11:00 AM   #21
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Re: Heater help!

lower right of pic the (brown 50),dosn't that go up in the dash with the radio wires?
if you can test it, to run ok ,from the batt
I'd check the blower coils
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lower right of pic the (brown 50),dosn't that go up in the dash with the radio wires?
if you can test it, to run ok ,from the batt
I'd check the blower coils
I thought that was the resistor?
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I thought that was the resistor?
in the B&W picture, the resistors/coils are shown under the blower motor.
with or without the AC you have them,different ones,but you have them
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Old 11-09-2013, 07:31 AM   #24
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Re: Heater help!

I only see a purple hot wire, where is the ground wire?
Blower motor will not operated with out being grounded.

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Old 11-09-2013, 08:49 AM   #25
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I only see a purple hot wire, where is the ground wire?
Blower motor will not operated with out being grounded.

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my non-ACs in my 78 and both 79s dont have grounds,those outside boxes are metal,my 87,88,89,with AC do have them but cause those are fiber boxes
can almost make out the spot too,like my 89
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