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paintpyro · 05-07-2003, 12:19 PM

I just got off the phone with Bill Turner. They are workin on a catalog right now. Bill is a very cool guy. I told him what I was runnin and the problem (bump steer with 3 inch springs). He gave me all the options, pros and cons of each, even helped me get a game plan going on doing it in steps. Hes got alot of knowledge about the ins and out of our suspension setups.

fastbagged68 · 05-07-2003, 07:03 PM

I went down to Bill's Place last weekend. I got his tubular control arms, drop spindles and disc brake kit. He's got some pretty good ideas too. I saw alot of stuff that I will be buying from him. But some of the stuff I plan on making myself. I have pictures of his crossmember and control arms if anybody want to see it.

cali_surfer · 05-07-2003, 09:10 PM

Could you post the pics on here?

paintpyro · 05-08-2003, 10:12 AM

fastbagged, I'd definitely like to see em.

fastbagged68 · 05-08-2003, 11:10 AM

Here it is, checkout his mounting points and the adjustable top arm.

fastbagged68 · 05-08-2003, 11:11 AM

One more!

paintpyro · 05-08-2003, 03:53 PM

Is that a single arm on the upper mount?

fast67chevy2002 · 05-09-2003, 04:52 PM

looks like a good start. If you don't mind, I would like to get some info on that catalog you mentioned.

thanks.

phantom dually · 05-16-2003, 11:36 PM

I also have the same parts in the pic from Bill turner. I have got to know him very well in the last few months or so. He is a great guy. The lower arms are tricky to mount up but do offer a lower front end as the arm sits about a inch or so into the member versus the stock a arm. I recently purchased a bolt on 4 link kit from Bill and I am waiting for it.

phantom dually · 05-16-2003, 11:37 PM

Also Bill Turners # is 909 926-1729. Tell him Asshole from Kentucky sent you!!!

phantom dually · 05-16-2003, 11:39 PM

A few pics

phantom dually · 05-16-2003, 11:39 PM

one more

phantom dually · 05-16-2003, 11:42 PM

These pics are just to show that by removing the lower portion of your member you can sit the truck even lower without body dropping it. This piece will be fully welded and smoothed. Also check out the way the arms mount vs stock!!

jay-dawg · 05-17-2003, 02:16 PM

I found his ad last year and decided to give a call for a catalog. The phone # was wrong. Then, I decided to write them. I look at the ad again and no zip code. So I did a search and found the zip. I sent a letter stating I wanted a catalogue and also for them to come and visit the boards. I havent heard or gotten anything.

jay

phantom dually · 05-17-2003, 08:32 PM

Try www.turnerrodsntrucks.com

smashingchuck · 05-18-2003, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by phantom dually
I also have the same parts in the pic from Bill turner. I have got to know him very well in the last few months or so. He is a great guy. The lower arms are tricky to mount up but do offer a lower front end as the arm sits about a inch or so into the member versus the stock a arm. I recently purchased a bolt on 4 link kit from Bill and I am waiting for it.

IMO, all this is isn't really necesary. I put tubular control arms in the stock location, and the crossmember sits off the ground about 1/4" with the truck laying flat on the frame. The control arms do not touch either.

phantom dually · 05-18-2003, 09:33 PM

OK

Slammed67 · 05-19-2003, 02:17 PM

Just out of curiosity, what does cutting the bottom out of the xmember gain you? Looks like the a-arm mounts will sit lower than the bottom of the xmemeber after making this modification. Can you please explain?

Thanks!

XXL · 05-19-2003, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by smashingchuck
IMO, all this is isn't really necesary. I put tubular control arms in the stock location, and the crossmember sits off the ground about 1/4" with the truck laying flat on the frame. The control arms do not touch either.

Quote:

Originally posted by phantom dually
OK

So phantom, can you elaborate on exactly HOW this helps? I'm curious before I shell out exorbitant $$$ on Turner's stuff or build my own. I can't see how, for example, raising the center of the xmember helps anything when the control arms are still below that point.

Kenneth

fastbagged68 · 05-19-2003, 03:01 PM

If you only cut the crossmember down it does nothing -because your arms sit lower. If you buy his tubular lower control arms they MOUNT 1- 3/4" higher in the crossmember thus now your control arms no longer hit the ground first. So then you are hanger up on is the crossmeber will be hitting the ground. Now cut your crossmember down and the truck will go lower. Now this will only work if your bag mounts are not limiting you. With these control arms, drop spindles, and bags if set up right will just about put the rocker panel on the ground. I will be doing the same to mine as soon as my parts come in from Bill

phantom dually · 05-19-2003, 03:24 PM

What he said!!

phantom dually · 05-19-2003, 03:24 PM

What he said!!

phantom dually · 05-19-2003, 03:24 PM

What he said!!

Slammed67 · 05-19-2003, 03:32 PM

Am I missing something? Your welded in plate don't seem any lower than the original plate that you cut out. Can you take a front view picture of it (as in from the front of the truck if it were installed)..... might show it better.

fastbagged68 · 05-19-2003, 03:37 PM

I will get pics, but it wont be for a few weeks.

05-07-2003, 12:19 PM	#1
paintpyro Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Santa Fe Springs, CA,USA Posts: 1,579	Turner Enterprises I just got off the phone with Bill Turner. They are workin on a catalog right now. Bill is a very cool guy. I told him what I was runnin and the problem (bump steer with 3 inch springs). He gave me all the options, pros and cons of each, even helped me get a game plan going on doing it in steps. Hes got alot of knowledge about the ins and out of our suspension setups. __________________ 70 shortbed stepside "Schleprock" 350 w/TH400 rallys and BFGs -We can rebuild it, we have the technology-lower,shinier,faster

05-07-2003, 09:10 PM	#3
cali_surfer Registered User Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Chico, CA Posts: 1,136	Could you post the pics on here? __________________ My engine is stock... trust me ;o)

05-08-2003, 10:12 AM	#4
paintpyro Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Santa Fe Springs, CA,USA Posts: 1,579	fastbagged, I'd definitely like to see em. __________________ 70 shortbed stepside "Schleprock" 350 w/TH400 rallys and BFGs -We can rebuild it, we have the technology-lower,shinier,faster

05-08-2003, 11:10 AM	#5
fastbagged68 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tri Valley California Posts: 792	Here it is, checkout his mounting points and the adjustable top arm. Attached Images

05-08-2003, 11:11 AM	#6
fastbagged68 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tri Valley California Posts: 792	One more! Attached Images

05-07-2003, 07:03 PM	#2
fastbagged68 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tri Valley California Posts: 792	I went down to Bill's Place last weekend. I got his tubular control arms, drop spindles and disc brake kit. He's got some pretty good ideas too. I saw alot of stuff that I will be buying from him. But some of the stuff I plan on making myself. I have pictures of his crossmember and control arms if anybody want to see it.

05-08-2003, 03:53 PM	#7
paintpyro Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Santa Fe Springs, CA,USA Posts: 1,579	Is that a single arm on the upper mount? __________________ 70 shortbed stepside "Schleprock" 350 w/TH400 rallys and BFGs -We can rebuild it, we have the technology-lower,shinier,faster

05-09-2003, 04:52 PM	#8
fast67chevy2002 Dad's little helper Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Helena, MT Posts: 194	looks like a good start. If you don't mind, I would like to get some info on that catalog you mentioned. thanks.

05-16-2003, 11:36 PM	#9
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	I also have the same parts in the pic from Bill turner. I have got to know him very well in the last few months or so. He is a great guy. The lower arms are tricky to mount up but do offer a lower front end as the arm sits about a inch or so into the member versus the stock a arm. I recently purchased a bolt on 4 link kit from Bill and I am waiting for it. __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

05-16-2003, 11:37 PM	#10
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	Also Bill Turners # is 909 926-1729. Tell him Asshole from Kentucky sent you!!! __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

05-16-2003, 11:39 PM	#11
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	A few pics A few pics Attached Images

05-16-2003, 11:39 PM	#12
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	another one one more Attached Images

05-16-2003, 11:42 PM	#13
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	These pics are just to show that by removing the lower portion of your member you can sit the truck even lower without body dropping it. This piece will be fully welded and smoothed. Also check out the way the arms mount vs stock!! __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

05-17-2003, 02:16 PM	#14
jay-dawg chevelito Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Honolulu, HI USA Posts: 1,609	I found his ad last year and decided to give a call for a catalog. The phone # was wrong. Then, I decided to write them. I look at the ad again and no zip code. So I did a search and found the zip. I sent a letter stating I wanted a catalogue and also for them to come and visit the boards. I havent heard or gotten anything. jay __________________ New deadline...when my son can drive. Aloha from Honolulu, HI

05-17-2003, 08:32 PM	#15
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	Try www.turnerrodsntrucks.com __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448



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05-18-2003, 09:33 PM	#17
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	OK __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

05-19-2003, 02:17 PM	#18
Slammed67 Progress = 0% Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 2,108	Just out of curiosity, what does cutting the bottom out of the xmember gain you? Looks like the a-arm mounts will sit lower than the bottom of the xmemeber after making this modification. Can you please explain? Thanks! __________________ Jason - '67 GMC swb \| '57 Bel-Air 4dr hardtop \| '56 210 4dr Wagon \| 2000 GMC Sierra

05-19-2003, 03:01 PM	#20
fastbagged68 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tri Valley California Posts: 792	If you only cut the crossmember down it does nothing -because your arms sit lower. If you buy his tubular lower control arms they MOUNT 1- 3/4" higher in the crossmember thus now your control arms no longer hit the ground first. So then you are hanger up on is the crossmeber will be hitting the ground. Now cut your crossmember down and the truck will go lower. Now this will only work if your bag mounts are not limiting you. With these control arms, drop spindles, and bags if set up right will just about put the rocker panel on the ground. I will be doing the same to mine as soon as my parts come in from Bill

05-19-2003, 03:24 PM	#21
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	What he said!! __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

05-19-2003, 03:32 PM	#24
Slammed67 Progress = 0% Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 2,108	Am I missing something? Your welded in plate don't seem any lower than the original plate that you cut out. Can you take a front view picture of it (as in from the front of the truck if it were installed)..... might show it better. __________________ Jason - '67 GMC swb \| '57 Bel-Air 4dr hardtop \| '56 210 4dr Wagon \| 2000 GMC Sierra

05-19-2003, 03:37 PM	#25
fastbagged68 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tri Valley California Posts: 792	I will get pics, but it wont be for a few weeks.

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