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mike409 · 11-03-2007, 06:18 PM

can't get it to spark every thing is hook up correct but is for points ign i have hei it is hooked up to the c- side of the coil but does not get spark to plugs in the pipes ? any body help

**truckster** · 11-03-2007, 07:38 PM

I'm not sure if I understand the question, but I'm assuming you're trying to get an HEI to work. You need 12 volts at the BAT connection on the cap. The stock wiring has 6 volts going to the distributor, so you'll have to do a little wiring. The coil in in the distributor cap. If you have 12 volts to the BAT terminal and the other terminal from the distributor is plugged into the cap, and the timing is right, it should fire right up.

mike409 · 11-03-2007, 08:35 PM

no sorry i meant flames out the tail pipes it is a kit to blow flames off of raw fuel thanks but i got it lite now did not have anuff fuel going to it had to the choke up it is cool some people use propane big flames
thanks again truckster

724x4a/cchevy · 11-03-2007, 08:57 PM

usually the ignition system is shut off after revving up the motor. When you shut off the ignition, the spark plug in the tail pipe is supposed to ignite and burn the unburnt fuel as the motor freewheels before it comes to a stop. Eventually you switch the engine ignition back on and the motor fires back up. Mike, it sounds like you aren't killing the engine's ignition system and it's still burning the majority of the fuel and none of it's shooting out the tail pipe.

chevy72blu · 11-03-2007, 09:01 PM

.... Or you could just seriously fatten up the AF mixture by going with larger jets in the front and back. You arent going to make any friends with the EPA but Ive heard of people doing this to achieve what you want.

724x4a/cchevy · 11-03-2007, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chevy72blu

.... Or you could just seriously fatten up the AF mixture by going with larger jets in the front and back. You arent going to make any friends with the EPA but Ive heard of people doing this to achieve what you want.

That's plan B!!!

Twistedsteel · 11-03-2007, 09:19 PM

You should get someone to take some pics and then post em.

Albie

mike409 · 11-04-2007, 02:19 PM

you got it !!!! yes i have it working great its kool i have manual choke and i set it were i can still rev it about 2500 and hit it and it will throw it about 6 to 8'
its bad ass

ill get some pics tonight!!!!!!

chev74 · 11-04-2007, 03:03 PM

mike, which kit did you buy? i have been wanting to do this for a ong while and i was wondering how much you paid and if it really does work. i have a holley carb with electric choke... btw

fun in dirt · 11-04-2007, 03:42 PM

That sounds sooo cool! (Daydreaming...) I can picture it now melting the rubber window molding off that Fast n Furious junk at the stoplights

Pictures, Pictures, We Want Pictures!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IvelDesigns · 11-04-2007, 04:33 PM

i used to do this with my 77 step side, with full 3" dual exhaust.

nothing cooler than cruising under a bridge, turning off the key, coasting, then turning it back on with a BANG!

Premium72 · 11-04-2007, 06:27 PM

had a home made kit on my 49 coupe pretty cool althought that lil 6 wouldt shoot 6foot flames. be prepaid to change your oil pretty often deppending on how much you do this. some of the unburnt gas will get down in the oil an wash the cylinder walls, and can mess up a perfectly good engine. good luck.

mike409 · 11-04-2007, 09:42 PM

the kit is xtreme flame kits www.flamekitz.com it work great i just got home from going to dinner and tried a few different things i gotter now my truck is about 4 feet to bottom of the rocker to the ground and my pipes come out in front of the tire and it is 4 inch it will throw a 6 to 8 foot flame when i use the chock thats when it works the best it is time to cook some rice but some times it will back fire and make your ears ring with the windows up thats pretty loud hope i dont hurt the motor but ill watch that and change the oil when i get wild LOL...........

pmpski_1 · 11-05-2007, 02:10 PM

pics pics pics!

mvfd70 · 11-05-2007, 02:23 PM

yes. we want pics

LONGHAIR · 11-05-2007, 03:22 PM

Some punctuation might help too.....that is very hard to read

mike409 · 11-05-2007, 03:35 PM

Did not know we were getting "graded" on this project!!!!!..........LOL!!!!!

Spray-Bomb · 11-05-2007, 04:07 PM

Pics are great, but vids are better !!!!

stllookn · 11-05-2007, 04:19 PM

Try this...always brings a smile to your face!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk2ixe3xlQI

and this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mwM7da0q0c

mike409 · 11-05-2007, 05:30 PM

now thats cool an old flat head at that every body should look at that !!!!!

chev74 · 11-05-2007, 07:09 PM

i like this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkPeJRiBSc0

the flames sound awesome

chev74 · 11-07-2007, 01:24 AM

ttt. anyone else have good luck with flame kits?

Lemield · 11-08-2007, 11:46 AM

I've got a kit on my 70 CST....works great. I can shoot a 2-3ft flame....great for tailgaters.....really.

chev74 · 11-08-2007, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemield

I've got a kit on my 70 CST....works great. I can shoot a 2-3ft flame....great for tailgaters.....really.

what kit do you have?

11-03-2007, 06:18 PM	#1
mike409 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: parkton md Posts: 256	flame throwers need help with hei for flames help can't get it to spark every thing is hook up correct but is for points ign i have hei it is hooked up to the c- side of the coil but does not get spark to plugs in the pipes ? any body help __________________ 1995... 2DOOR TAHOE 1999... SUBURBAN 2 WHEEL DRIVE LOW RIDER sold!! 1999... SUBURBAN 4X4 sold!!! 1967...3/4 TON 4X4 SHORT BED 454 sold!! 1972...Cheyanne Super 454 1/2 lwb new toy!! 1972...1 TON 4X4 SUBURBAN *CHEVY "RULE" GO OLD SCHOOL!!!!!!http://www.myspace.com/slicks72 Last edited by mike409; 11-03-2007 at 08:37 PM.*

11-03-2007, 07:38 PM	#2
truckster Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Orem, Utah Posts: 7,954	Re: flame throwers need help with hei for flames help I'm not sure if I understand the question, but I'm assuming you're trying to get an HEI to work. You need 12 volts at the BAT connection on the cap. The stock wiring has 6 volts going to the distributor, so you'll have to do a little wiring. The coil in in the distributor cap. If you have 12 volts to the BAT terminal and the other terminal from the distributor is plugged into the cap, and the timing is right, it should fire right up.

11-03-2007, 08:35 PM	#3
mike409 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: parkton md Posts: 256	Re: flame throwers need help with hei for flames help no sorry i meant flames out the tail pipes it is a kit to blow flames off of raw fuel thanks but i got it lite now did not have anuff fuel going to it had to the choke up it is cool some people use propane big flames thanks again truckster __________________ 1995... 2DOOR TAHOE 1999... SUBURBAN 2 WHEEL DRIVE LOW RIDER sold!! 1999... SUBURBAN 4X4 sold!!! 1967...3/4 TON 4X4 SHORT BED 454 sold!! 1972...Cheyanne Super 454 1/2 lwb new toy!! 1972...1 TON 4X4 SUBURBAN *CHEVY "RULE" GO OLD SCHOOL!!!!!!*http://www.myspace.com/slicks72

11-03-2007, 08:57 PM	#4
724x4a/cchevy Self-proclaimed LED man Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Harrisburg, Missouri Posts: 1,021	Re: flame throwers need help with hei for flames help usually the ignition system is shut off after revving up the motor. When you shut off the ignition, the spark plug in the tail pipe is supposed to ignite and burn the unburnt fuel as the motor freewheels before it comes to a stop. Eventually you switch the engine ignition back on and the motor fires back up. Mike, it sounds like you aren't killing the engine's ignition system and it's still burning the majority of the fuel and none of it's shooting out the tail pipe. __________________ My LED Website My Photobucket Album of LED's Ask me about hand-made custom L.E.D brake and reverse lights. <- LINK I also do LED: -Third Brake/Cargo -Brake (truck and burb) -Reverse (truck and burb) -67-68 Front Turn Signals -69-70 Front Turn Signals -71-72 Front Turn Signals -GMC Front Turn Signals I can also do custom lights for other vehicles....i did a set for a AMC Gremlin once Norwood Survivor Last edited by 724x4a/cchevy; 11-03-2007 at 08:59 PM.

11-03-2007, 09:01 PM	#5
chevy72blu Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,188	Re: flame throwers need help with hei for flames help .... Or you could just seriously fatten up the AF mixture by going with larger jets in the front and back. You arent going to make any friends with the EPA but Ive heard of people doing this to achieve what you want. __________________ RIP EastSideLowLife '72 C20 SWB convert. 5 lug, LS1/4l60e

11-03-2007, 09:19 PM	#7
Twistedsteel Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Redway, Ca Posts: 97	Re: flame throwers need help with hei for flames help You should get someone to take some pics and then post em. Albie

11-04-2007, 02:19 PM	#8
mike409 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: parkton md Posts: 256	Re: flame throwers need help with hei for flames help you got it !!!! yes i have it working great its kool i have manual choke and i set it were i can still rev it about 2500 and hit it and it will throw it about 6 to 8' its bad ass ill get some pics tonight!!!!!! __________________ 1995... 2DOOR TAHOE 1999... SUBURBAN 2 WHEEL DRIVE LOW RIDER sold!! 1999... SUBURBAN 4X4 sold!!! 1967...3/4 TON 4X4 SHORT BED 454 sold!! 1972...Cheyanne Super 454 1/2 lwb new toy!! 1972...1 TON 4X4 SUBURBAN *CHEVY "RULE" GO OLD SCHOOL!!!!!!*http://www.myspace.com/slicks72

11-04-2007, 03:03 PM	#9
chev74 Addicted to Chevy Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Tyler, Tx Posts: 857	Re: flame throwers need help with hei for flames help mike, which kit did you buy? i have been wanting to do this for a ong while and i was wondering how much you paid and if it really does work. i have a holley carb with electric choke... btw

11-04-2007, 03:42 PM	#10
fun in dirt Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,121	Re: flame throwers need help with hei for flames help That sounds sooo cool! (Daydreaming...) I can picture it now melting the rubber window molding off that Fast n Furious junk at the stoplights Pictures, Pictures, We Want Pictures!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ '72 C to K20 "Cannibalizer" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...32#post8653432 '85 K30 "Big Nassy" '01 2500 Suburban ...party wagon & tow truck '06 Silverado SS...DD '06 C1500 WT...DD '07 Classic C1500 WT...DD Built & sold cause can't keep 'em all: '72 Blazer "The Bucket" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=433190 '55 Chevy straight axle gasser https://www.trifive.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173938 '69 Pro Street Chevelle http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=332541 '86 M1031 CUCV http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=553619

11-04-2007, 04:33 PM	#11
IvelDesigns Commander Taco Bello Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 2,232	Re: flame throwers need help with hei for flames help i used to do this with my 77 step side, with full 3" dual exhaust. nothing cooler than cruising under a bridge, turning off the key, coasting, then turning it back on with a BANG! __________________ Bagged '50 3600 - Bumper punchin' road kill since 2009... Bagged '69 C10 Longbed - Bumper punchin' road kill since 2007...

11-04-2007, 06:27 PM	#12
Premium72 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Villa Rica Ga Posts: 889	Re: flame throwers need help with hei for flames help had a home made kit on my 49 coupe pretty cool althought that lil 6 wouldt shoot 6foot flames. be prepaid to change your oil pretty often deppending on how much you do this. some of the unburnt gas will get down in the oil an wash the cylinder walls, and can mess up a perfectly good engine. good luck. __________________ WombatFire, Art-Design-MADNESS Follow My Build and Adventures on Instagram

11-04-2007, 09:42 PM	#13
mike409 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: parkton md Posts: 256	Re: flame throwers need help with hei for flames help the kit is xtreme flame kits www.flamekitz.com it work great i just got home from going to dinner and tried a few different things i gotter now my truck is about 4 feet to bottom of the rocker to the ground and my pipes come out in front of the tire and it is 4 inch it will throw a 6 to 8 foot flame when i use the chock thats when it works the best it is time to cook some rice but some times it will back fire and make your ears ring with the windows up thats pretty loud hope i dont hurt the motor but ill watch that and change the oil when i get wild LOL........... __________________ 1995... 2DOOR TAHOE 1999... SUBURBAN 2 WHEEL DRIVE LOW RIDER sold!! 1999... SUBURBAN 4X4 sold!!! 1967...3/4 TON 4X4 SHORT BED 454 sold!! 1972...Cheyanne Super 454 1/2 lwb new toy!! 1972...1 TON 4X4 SUBURBAN *CHEVY "RULE" GO OLD SCHOOL!!!!!!*http://www.myspace.com/slicks72

11-05-2007, 02:10 PM	#14
pmpski_1 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 505	Re: flame throwers need help with hei for flames help pics pics pics!

11-05-2007, 02:23 PM	#15
mvfd70 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Opdyke, IL Posts: 775	Re: flame throwers need help with hei for flames help yes. we want pics __________________ 1978 Chevrolet Silverado 3/4 ton 400 small block. 2000 F-250 Powerstroke 2002 GMC Yukon Denali XL

11-05-2007, 03:22 PM	#16
LONGHAIR just can't cover up my redneck Join Date: May 2004 Location: Columbus OH Posts: 11,414	Re: flame throwers need help with hei for flames help Some punctuation might help too.....that is very hard to read



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11-05-2007, 03:35 PM	#17
mike409 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: parkton md Posts: 256	Re: flame throwers need help with hei for flames help Did not know we were getting "graded" on this project!!!!!..........LOL!!!!! __________________ 1995... 2DOOR TAHOE 1999... SUBURBAN 2 WHEEL DRIVE LOW RIDER sold!! 1999... SUBURBAN 4X4 sold!!! 1967...3/4 TON 4X4 SHORT BED 454 sold!! 1972...Cheyanne Super 454 1/2 lwb new toy!! 1972...1 TON 4X4 SUBURBAN *CHEVY "RULE" GO OLD SCHOOL!!!!!!*http://www.myspace.com/slicks72

11-05-2007, 04:07 PM	#18
Spray-Bomb Texas Big Wig Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Mineola, Texas Posts: 5,620	Re: flame throwers need help with hei for flames help Pics are great, but vids are better !!!! __________________ Just not low enough... ----------------------------- Sinister Killer

11-05-2007, 04:19 PM	#19
stllookn Saving 1 truck at a time! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kent, WA Posts: 6,465	Re: flame throwers need help with hei for flames help Try this...always brings a smile to your face! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk2ixe3xlQI and this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mwM7da0q0c __________________ '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 400/TH400 '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 468/TH400w/buckets '72 C20 Halfhorn (Longhorn w/o cab and front clip) '69 Flxible Cruiser (look up ugly in the dictionary) Last edited by stllookn; 11-05-2007 at 04:20 PM.

11-05-2007, 05:30 PM	#20
mike409 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: parkton md Posts: 256	Re: flame throwers need help with hei for flames help now thats cool an old flat head at that every body should look at that !!!!! __________________ 1995... 2DOOR TAHOE 1999... SUBURBAN 2 WHEEL DRIVE LOW RIDER sold!! 1999... SUBURBAN 4X4 sold!!! 1967...3/4 TON 4X4 SHORT BED 454 sold!! 1972...Cheyanne Super 454 1/2 lwb new toy!! 1972...1 TON 4X4 SUBURBAN *CHEVY "RULE" GO OLD SCHOOL!!!!!!*http://www.myspace.com/slicks72

11-05-2007, 07:09 PM	#21
chev74 Addicted to Chevy Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Tyler, Tx Posts: 857	Re: flame throwers need help with hei for flames help i like this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkPeJRiBSc0 the flames sound awesome

11-07-2007, 01:24 AM	#22
chev74 Addicted to Chevy Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Tyler, Tx Posts: 857	Re: flame throwers need help with hei for flames help ttt. anyone else have good luck with flame kits?

11-08-2007, 11:46 AM	#23
Lemield Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Arvada Colorado Posts: 1,321	Re: flame throwers need help with hei for flames help I've got a kit on my 70 CST....works great. I can shoot a 2-3ft flame....great for tailgaters.....really. __________________ Larry 1949 Willys CJ2A, Kubota Turbo Diesel engine, Warn Overdrive, 11 inch brakes, 12volt, Warn M8000 Winch "Little Green" 1970 Rustoleum Roller Red C20 Custom Camper 454 TH400 "Big Red" 1971 K20 6.2 Turbo Diesel 4x4 4spd Ranger Overdrive "Pumpkin Wagon" 2005 VW Beetle Diesel 44+ MPG "Silver Bullet"

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