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03-06-2009, 09:42 AM | #1 |
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HOW TO: Split the brake lines (many have asked)
Here's a short write up on how I split the lines on my truck.
This is perfect for the person who wants to have a "split" system, but is not ready or cannot afford disc brake conversion right away. Our trucks utilize a single line coming out of the stock master cylinder (whether manual or power). This single line is Tee'd off at the LF wheel, then again at the RF wheel. From there, it runs to the rear of the truck which it feeds the rear brakes..where it is Tee'd again for the L and R rear wheels. This system is fine...and has been for years. Although, as vehicles get older and related brake parts wear, you run the risk of looseing your brakes COMPLETELY if you blow a line, a wheel-cylinder, or even if the master goes out !!! Of course this does not cure problems elsewhere in your system, which should be checked and replaced as neccesary. That could be scary or even DEADLY !! I would sure hate to have an accident and injure one of my family members, or anyone else on the road for that matter. So until I'm ready to do a full resto on my truck, I decide to upgrade the brake system using readily available, inexpensive off the shelf parts. HERE WE GO: The first thing to do is remove the stock master, along with the single line down to the first Tee. The one on the left is the stock (obviously) Now the one the right is a NEW drum/drum master I picked up at Kragens for under $30...I asked for a 67-70 IMPALA drum/drum car...non P/B....Can't beat the price !!! - - You then need to pick up some line and fittings. You can purchase straight lengths of line with end on them, or pick up the line and fittings seperate. I went to RoyalBrass (a local fitting store) and picked all the fittings and the line I needed to do the conversion... - - - Two adapter fittings for the Master..four Inverted..one plug...and a union... The master bolted up NICE - - - - -
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03-06-2009, 09:43 AM | #2 |
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Re: HOW TO: Split the brake lines (many have asked)
Here's a shot at the R/F tee fitting....Located behind the crossmember under the frame rail:
- - Disconnect the rear line...and plug the tee...then install a union on the rear line.... - - - - Now, it's time to begin the bending. You will need a good quality bender to bend the lines. The black sharpie marks are guide marks used by me in conjuction with my bender. It has markings on the handle that you transfer to the tube, in order to determine where to start the bend.....Now start bending !!! - - - - - - -
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03-06-2009, 09:45 AM | #3 |
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Re: HOW TO: Split the brake lines (many have asked)
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03-06-2009, 09:47 AM | #4 |
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Re: HOW TO: Split the brake lines (many have asked)
These reference pics show clearance of lines using a SB and Huggers:
- - - - - The new crossmember line can be installed with engine installed...these shot were taken when engine was out. The front feed line was installed after the engine was in: - - - The second line (pictured above) was ran down to the original first tee. The push rod was also modified for this MC. Pics to follow...
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03-06-2009, 10:21 AM | #5 |
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Re: HOW TO: Split the brake lines (many have asked)
Hey, John, can you sticky your own threads??
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03-06-2009, 11:48 AM | #6 |
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Re: HOW TO: Split the brake lines (many have asked)
I saw the torch laying there. Do you heat the line a little to get a better bend. I am going to be doing the iin the next couple weeks. Thanks for the thread!
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05-03-2016, 10:15 PM | #7 | |
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Re: HOW TO: Split the brake lines (many have asked)
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Chief, Did you use bed liner on your inner fenders? It looks really nice. Great idea. |
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05-11-2016, 09:55 PM | #8 |
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Re: HOW TO: Split the brake lines (many have asked)
A big thanks to all the contributors to this thread. I bled everything and it works great! On to the next mission.
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03-08-2009, 01:51 PM | #9 |
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Re: HOW TO: Split the brake lines (many have asked)
It would be benificial to most to show what you used for a plug to plug that fitting in the frt tee. for the uninitiated they would have a problem with that ( knowing what it was, and inding a counterperson that knew)
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05-01-2013, 05:02 PM | #10 | |
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Re: HOW TO: Split the brake lines (many have asked)
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05-01-2013, 07:32 PM | #11 |
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Re: HOW TO: Split the brake lines (many have asked)
I used 2 premade line from autozone 1 was about 40" the other was about 60".
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05-01-2013, 08:06 PM | #12 | |
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Re: HOW TO: Split the brake lines (many have asked)
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I'll go check Autozone and see how much they are there.
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05-01-2013, 11:50 PM | #13 | |
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Re: HOW TO: Split the brake lines (many have asked)
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Re: HOW TO: Split the brake lines (many have asked)
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03-25-2016, 10:51 PM | #15 |
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Re: HOW TO: Split the brake lines (many have asked)
This thread was sent to me when I asked what I should do first on my 66 longbed c10. I agree, safety first. So I have most of the parts and am going to tackle this hopefully Sunday. My question is, do I have to replace the original single line going to the first T? It seems that I just need to add one to attach to the line going to the rear that I remove from the T on the right hand side. Am I missing something?
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03-06-2009, 12:13 PM | #16 |
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Re: HOW TO: Split the brake lines (many have asked)
Nice work. Is it bad that I have literally 40 subscribed topics so I can find them later. This one included of course.
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03-06-2009, 06:49 PM | #17 | |
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Re: HOW TO: Split the brake lines (many have asked)
Sure can...and plan on it once I get this 'How-to' thread complete
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I have about that as well if not more !!!
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03-06-2009, 08:37 PM | #18 |
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Re: HOW TO: Split the brake lines (many have asked)
That is a very nice write-up with pictures, just wondering, what is the size of the tubing you used and what was the size of the existing tubing. You made it look easy, thanks for sharing.
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03-06-2009, 08:59 PM | #19 |
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Re: HOW TO: Split the brake lines (many have asked)
I used the stock size tube which was 1/4".
Ask away all the questions you fellas might have....I will try to answer everything in this thread....as I will make a new one right before I "sticky" it.
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Re: HOW TO: Split the brake lines (many have asked)
Good thread. But is that billet I see on your engine?
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03-07-2009, 01:33 AM | #21 |
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Re: HOW TO: Split the brake lines (many have asked)
nice write up brother-man!!!
I was over 900 a few months ago..............deleted all of those...........now i'm back up over 400
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Re: HOW TO: Split the brake lines (many have asked)
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Not done with it yet...still need pics of the push-rod extension, which, apparently I never took (??)
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03-07-2009, 11:15 AM | #23 |
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Re: HOW TO: Split the brake lines (many have asked)
Excellent thread
Very helpful
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03-07-2009, 11:52 AM | #24 |
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Re: HOW TO: Split the brake lines (many have asked)
Ok, I'm assuming your using the port on the master farthest towards the grill as your front connection and the one closest to your firewall as your rear wheels right or am I backwards or are you going to tell me it doesn't matter?
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03-10-2009, 02:59 PM | #25 |
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Re: HOW TO: Split the brake lines (many have asked)
man I got to get mine done!! Thanks John this will be a great help
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