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11-29-2004, 07:53 PM | #1 |
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Air conditioning systems
Which system do you folks have? Which takes up the less amount of room inside the cab? I want a flush mount in the engine compartment. And I would like to use the factory controls or something around that size. My whole dash has been filled in so the controls would be in the console I am going to build. Any inputs would be appreciated. Kerry
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And of course the price for everything if you know it. Thanks again. Kerry
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11-29-2004, 08:01 PM | #3 |
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Vintage Air was the winner in the last post about AC, If I'm not mistaken Old Air was the close runner up.
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11-30-2004, 11:28 AM | #4 |
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Wootdog,
I'm in the process of installing an Old Air system in the '69. I bought mine from Tim Christian, but each package is different so you'd best call him for a price. I do know it was substantially cheaper than going directly to Old Air. The kit provides flat block-off plates for the engine-side firewall, with nothing protruding from the area except the 4 lines to the inside unit. It's a much neater install than factory, especially under the hood. I'm also pleased with the under-dash unit, which is also smaller than original. The plastic glove box is a great replacement, too. Although it was a non-A/C cab, we are using a factory A/C control panel. Old Air can provide either setup. To move the control to a center console, extending the wires shouldn't be any problem, but the control cables may be kinda tricky. I don't know if Old Air or Vintage air provide any setups with non-mechanical controls. Of course, this doesn't say squat about how it cools. Check with me next July for that one... I can post some semi-installed pics later this week if that would help. SSOW
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11-30-2004, 08:00 PM | #5 |
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Pics would be great. Thanks, Kerry
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11-30-2004, 09:11 PM | #6 |
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Kerry,
Here are the pictures of the mocked up AC/heater control panel you asked about. Hope this helps. Greg
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Thanks
That will give me some more ideas. Kerry
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12-04-2004, 01:26 AM | #8 |
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In-progress Old Air install
Here's a few pics that may be relevant to the thread. (Attn: Wootdog, Grendel).
First, a shot of the engine-side firewall with the OA blockoff plates. You can also see from the paint pattern the outline of the old box. Next time it's warm enough, we'll kill the rest of the green. The big wire loom coming through the firewall is audio wiring - not part of the system. The next pic shows the OA unit (heater and A/C combined) attached to the interior firewall. Again, ignore the wires on the right side - not part of the system. You're looking mostly through the glovebox hole. Here's a shot of the side and center vents and other various parts. We opted for the non-factory side vents and the center vent under the dash. This is the plastic replacement glovebox. Definitely an improvement over stock. The pressure hoses, dryer canister, and A4 compressor adapter plate are still in the box. We're using a factory A/C control panel, and OA has parts to convert it or the stock heater control to work the new unit. This last pic shows the OA contact switch we added to the rear of the A/C control panel. It fastens with the two hex head screws. So far, we've been pleased with the quality of the setup and the instructions are good, but could use more pics. Hope this helps your decision. SSOW
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12-04-2004, 09:13 AM | #9 |
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That is very imformative. Kerry
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12-04-2004, 12:25 PM | #10 |
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Anyone have a similar pictures and set up of Vintage Air?? Might be nice to see a comparison???
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12-04-2004, 04:06 PM | #11 |
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I'm in the process of installing a Vintage Air. Don't know when I'll be finished but I'll follow up with some pics. There appears to be quite a few differences between VA and OA... w/ pros and cons on both sides.
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12-04-2004, 07:42 PM | #12 |
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And then there's the Classic Auto Air sure fit kit that blows them both away.
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12-05-2004, 04:07 PM | #14 |
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I too would like to know why Classic Auto Air blows them away....I've never heard of it???
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12-05-2004, 05:15 PM | #15 |
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Found this with google search. John
http://www.classictrucksweb.com/tech/0408cl_air/
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12-05-2004, 06:21 PM | #16 |
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Hey Wootdog, isn't it too cold in VA right now to be worrying about A/C in VA? LOL. I guess now is actually the perfect time to get it ready since spring will be here before you know it.
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12-05-2004, 06:47 PM | #17 |
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I am getting ready to buy and would like to know why the Classic Auto Air system is better.
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12-05-2004, 08:43 PM | #19 |
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tell us why.... I need 2 systems, one for a 71 burb and a blazer
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12-05-2004, 10:23 PM | #20 |
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When my brother started this project
He had the old heater area filled except for four holes in a row horizontal to each. It is a piece of aluminum, and he stated that it was either old air or vintage air. He then sold the setup before I acquired the truck. Yes it is kinda cold in Virginia right now, but that would seem to be the right time to buy air conditioning systems at a slight discount. Besides, that could be my Christmas present to me. Kerry
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