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Old 10-02-2010, 07:45 PM   #1
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Amp gage

I am just wiring up my 1962 gage cluster which is the stock cluster and gages. It has a stock Amp gage that only indicates charge and discharge. I could not find a stock gage from the different catalogs. Is there a gage that can be used in the original spot that will give actual amperage readings.

Need a little help. I don't want to just hang a gage from the dash I would rather it fit in the cluster. If it isn't possible I will just continue with what I have but thought it would be better if I could do it.
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Old 10-02-2010, 09:07 PM   #2
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Re: Amp gage

I don't believe any GM vehicle that had an amp gauge, actually had any number values. Everyone I have ever seen is either charge or discharge readings. Number didn't come into play until they switched over to volt meters in later years (early '80's, maybe late '70's).
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Old 10-02-2010, 09:46 PM   #3
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Re: Amp gage

A universal gauge with the preferred markings can be fitted into the stock dash with a bit of effort and some ingenuity (I’ve done it before). Simply buy a typical round 2” gauge with the markings you prefer. Remove the bezel by twisting the edges with a screwdriver (which destroys the bezel), remove the bezel and the glass, unscrew the nuts on the back of the housing and lift the gauge unit free. Mount the “guts” of the gauge to your original panel fabricating whatever adapter is needed to make the gauge face line up in the window correctly. This works for just about any type electrically operated gauge.

The following photo shows the temperature gauge in my 46 Ford. There were 3 more gauges to the left which aren’t shown in the picture. The fit wasn't ideal but it worked great. And using the same technique, the speedometer and clock were also transplanted from a Thunderbird.



The problem is that ammeters are obsolete. Unless you are restoring the truck to pure stock it should be replaced with a voltmeter. Here’s a typical warning, this one from the Ron Francis catalog (their web tech tip link doesn’t work):

“DO NOT USE AN AMMETER! WHY? Ammeters risk under-dash fires. It probably reads 30-0-30 or 50-0-50? What amperage is your alternator? If it is more than the ammeter, say 100 amps or 75 amps – you can understand how a low amperage gauge can’t handle what the charging system can put out. You must not exceed the capacity of the gauge!”

Essentially an ammeter requires heavy gauge wire for all the vehicle voltage to run through the gauge, and gauge failure can burn up the vehicle. This is more likely if the electrical system is upgraded with a modern high output alternator, since the amperage will probably exceed the capacity of the factory amp gauge.

Voltmeters are connected more like a light bulb. Here’s a link showing typical installation instructions, should you choose to go that way:

http://www.ehow.com/how_4840382_inst...olt-gauge.html
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Old 10-02-2010, 09:56 PM   #4
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Re: Amp gage

I am using good number 10 wire for the gage I have. The person helping me talked about the risk and is why he said get the heavy wire.

Thanks I will just stay with the stock gage.
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Old 10-03-2010, 11:31 PM   #5
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Re: Amp gage

Guys,

The "ammeters" that came in our trucks do not measure the current used by the truck. One wire goes to the battery connection at the starter. One wire goes to the horn relay main power terminal, where the generator / alternator output attaches. The gage measures the voltage drop across these two connections. If the voltage is higher at the horn relay, it indicates charge (alternator voltage higher than battery). If the voltage is higher at the starter, it indicates discharge. The amount of charge or discharge is proportional to how much voltage drop there is. There is very little current flow thru the gage.

There is no danger of using this gage with a higher capacity alternator.

Markeb is right that a volt meter connected across the horn relay terminal is a better setup, but the stock gage should work fine.

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