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09-02-2019, 05:33 PM
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Brake Problem
My 72 has power brakes, 350/auto. Noticed that some times, while sitting in traffic with brakes applied, the pedal slowlystarts to go to the floor. I have to lift and reapply then they're good, with full pedal.
It seems to happen sporadically, only once every 3 or 4 days. And seems to happen when I sit for full minute or longer. Couple of times truck acutally started to move. Any ideas or theories on what to check? Master cylinder has plenty of fluid. Cant see any leaks at wheels. Vacuum leak, or ???
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09-02-2019, 05:48 PM
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Re: Brake Problem
First thing that comes to mind is the fliud is leaking by the master cylinder seals internally. Usually requires a master cylinder replacement.
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09-02-2019, 07:18 PM
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Re: Brake Problem
Agree with HO455. Sounds like the master is leaking down internally
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09-02-2019, 09:30 PM
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Re: Brake Problem
I just experienced the same symptoms. New master cylinder fixed it.
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09-02-2019, 10:07 PM
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Re: Brake Problem
Yep. Replace master
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09-02-2019, 11:18 PM
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Re: Brake Problem
Master cylinder
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09-03-2019, 12:02 AM
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Re: Brake Problem
Might be a Master Cylinder..
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09-03-2019, 10:20 AM
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Re: Brake Problem
Yep. Master cylinder. If you don’t want to replace it for whatever reason, there are rebuild kits available. In my broke teenage years (the 80’s) I rebuilt at least 3 of them. Basically the process is full disassembly, thoroughly clean it up, hone the cylinder out with a drill and one of those spring loaded tools that have 3 honing stones attached, new plunger and finally new seals. The kit was about 1/4 the price of a rebuilt master cylinder back then.
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09-03-2019, 10:42 AM
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Re: Brake Problem
Rebuilt master cylinder was $27 at O’Reilly’s. Difficult to justify doing that much work unless you just want to say you did.
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09-03-2019, 11:34 AM
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Re: Brake Problem
When the Master leaks internally like some say, It will dump fluid into the booster and ruin that also.
For the low cost involved I would just replace it. Do a leak test on the booster also with a spray bottle of soapy water. You may save yourself from a bunch of grief now doing this. |
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09-03-2019, 11:48 AM
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Re: Brake Problem
If you replace the Master cylinder,don't forget to flush all of the old brake fluid from the brake lines and if the rubber hoses are old replace them now to avoid a bigger problem latter on. Brake fluid gets old and turns color from contamination.
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09-03-2019, 04:43 PM
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Re: Brake Problem
Thank you all for the replies. I'm replacing the master cylinder and the booster too. Been looking at YouTube videos on bench bleed and such. You guys are the best. I appreciate you all putting me on the right diagnosis at the start. Will post when I get it done.
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09-19-2019, 09:41 AM
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Re: Brake Problem
Got new master cylinder (Classic Parts) and booster (CPP) installed.
Again, Thanks to all who replied.
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