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Huck · 07-03-2007, 10:15 PM

Anyone have a clue as to who made these slotted mags? Just got a set of 4 that are 15X7 6lug that just need a little polishing to be super. Any idea of what a set might be worth before I decide to keep or sell???

CG · 07-03-2007, 10:22 PM

They all look the same to me. Some of em have stampings, but I'm sure you already checked for that. Thats a nice size, I usually see em in 8's or 10's. Do you have caps and lug nuts for em?

**jamie72** · 07-03-2007, 10:27 PM

cragers??? looks like the 3 hole centers... looks nice thou!!

lbpd719 · 07-03-2007, 10:49 PM

most likely an early "American" set..

The most collectible of that style was the "Shelby Cal-500", which was an actual magnesium wheel (100%), thus the name "Mags". American, Cragar, and several importers made them, however most were aluminum or some mixture of alunimum with magnesium.

Back side will tell you alot more about them though.. Cragars will be marked with a CM usually in the casting.. American's had the more dominant "3 hole" cap early on, moving to the captive cap with the "A". Cragars and Shelby's are commonly 4 hole caps. The correct Shelby caps will have a cobra on them and are a little more difficult to find.

Shelbys are also able to be spot by the way they are machined, and they were the only ones with a groove near the top of the bead on the rim.

*trkklr77* · 07-03-2007, 11:14 PM

typicaly $100-200 for a common size like 15x7/8 a set

ive seen 10s and 4s go for 200 a pair

a few acttual halibrand all mag rims where asking 1500 a pair!!!!!!

**special-K** · 07-03-2007, 10:45 PM

They look like American Racing ones I had.I had two sets in the late`80s.I think they were the last ones available.

chosn 1 · 07-03-2007, 11:36 PM

halibrands dont have that recess around the center , they are typically held to the wheel by the center cap

da-burb · 07-03-2007, 11:41 PM

I have 1 pair of 8 lug Shelby 500's(looking for a matching pair BTW). mdillon was just out to my place last week and he has a set that looked just like that for his Wagoneer. I never knew it before, but same 6 lug pattern, same 7/16 studs.

**special-K** · 07-04-2007, 06:26 AM

The only Halibrands I can think of had smaller/shorter holes with a slight ridge around the slots.Many slot wheels had more squared corners than the Americans,like the Jeep wheels.Many had the air valve in the rim and not in the slot like the Americans.These have the step in the rim and center like Americans.The 8-lugs that I`m most familiar with had differences from the 15" wheels due to heavier application and larger diameter.The step in the rim is more pronounces and the slots are closer to the rim.Here are some Americans in 8-lug:

Here are some that are not Americans:

Halibrand

These were called "dish mags" before we started calling them "slots".The name "mag" was a reference to all early racing wheels made of magneseum,but mostly the 5 spoke design was considered a mag.The others used another word to identify them,like "dish".

Huck · 07-04-2007, 08:25 AM

OK back to my 6 lug's----I have found some lettering which say FORGED and they appear to be individually serial numbered with a unique number for each wheel. The more I look at them, the more I kind of like the look so perhaps there is a way to firure out who made them, then find a source for center caps, and finally, what is the best way to clean them up???
There are plenty of light scratches and curb rubs but nothing really nasty. I think they will go nicely my my 68 SWB project truck and I like staying with 15" as tires are a whole lot cheaper then 16-17" etc.

68GMC454 · 07-04-2007, 08:41 AM

i fyou lived closer to me,,id buy them in a heart beat..i can never find these style fo rim..imo, the best looking rim ever made..would love to find another set for my 68...the sixe you got for the front,,and as deep as possible for the rear..

**special-K** · 07-04-2007, 09:32 PM

I was just showing that I had a clue.I cleaned a set with Mother`s polish and the cames out nice.If they`re not coated and have alot of black spots,you can use etching wheel cleaner.I`ve used Eagle One with 000 steel wool,then polish.

corn · 07-04-2007, 09:37 PM

I have those exact wheels on the front of my 69 not sure what brand they are but I was guessing Ansen sprints or Appliance...

Big D · 07-05-2007, 12:27 AM

I have the same wheels on my 70 GMC, I dont see a brand on them anywhere. My bet is American or maybe Ansen.

Used to be you could not give away an old set of slots, Now with the retro look in they usually go for a couple hundred bucks at swap meet. Id like to find a 8 bolt set for my 3/4 ton project

cstanley · 07-05-2007, 12:56 AM

they look like the Ansen Sprint model A69 from American Racing. I think These are what will wind up on my blazer. a brand new set, polished, painted, or brushed runs $638 from pep boys (cheaper online.) they also make them up to 17x8s. those run about $700 a set.

Huck · 07-05-2007, 08:03 AM

Thanks everyone for their knowledge and input. I think I now know enough to be dangerous!! Will get stuff to clean them up and polish them to a bright luster----then will need to make a decision on tires. Will stay close to stock but perhaps just a wee bit bigger for kicks. Huck

Solver · 07-05-2007, 10:19 AM

I can't help identify your wheels but mine are ansen sprints and the bolt circle area is raised on mine rather than dished in like yours are.

2bits · 07-05-2007, 03:54 PM

Gotta love slots... Wish I had them on my truck!

**special-K** · 07-05-2007, 08:10 PM

while we`re talkin`slots,some old rides I ran slots on:

Can ya tell?

My AZ shorty.

Camperless.

pooz911 · 07-05-2007, 11:18 PM

http://www.roadsters.com/mag/

Dave Mann has a lot of info on the nostalgia wheels. check it out.

68shortfleet · 07-06-2007, 02:01 AM

I would bet money on those being factory wheels to the late 70's/early 80's jeep wagoneer. They only came in 15x7 factory for the jeep and they had that three screw center cap design.

Jason

GREASEMONKEY72 · 07-06-2007, 02:35 AM

so mine would be american racing wheels?

valve stem in the slot

**jaros44sr** · 07-06-2007, 06:55 AM

Hey Huck, let me know how you make out on the polishing, I think I have to do some sanding be for polishing. Deep stone dings! I just bought a flapper wheel to try out...

Bought a set of 5-15x10 for 500. Most I can read is made in Van Nuys Cali. I was thinking Ansen but don't know yet, valve stem is in the slot

**special-K** · 07-06-2007, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GREASEMONKEY72

so mine would be american racing wheels?

valve stem in the slot

They look to be Ansen Sprints,since the center is an outty.American and Ansen became one at some point,I don`t know how far back.They are nearly identicle.

stllookn · 07-06-2007, 10:54 AM

I used fine scotch brite pads from my local auto paint store then some Mothers. I was not going for the polished look...I like a softer satin finish like the original wheels...and yes...I know some of the originals were polished.

Before and after shots...only about 30 minutes per wheel.

07-03-2007, 10:15 PM	#1
Huck Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Shelbyville, KY Posts: 3,269	slotted mags ID??? Anyone have a clue as to who made these slotted mags? Just got a set of 4 that are 15X7 6lug that just need a little polishing to be super. Any idea of what a set might be worth before I decide to keep or sell??? Attached Images

07-03-2007, 10:22 PM	#2
CG BlahBlahBlah Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wa. Posts: 19,993	Re: slotted mags ID??? They all look the same to me. Some of em have stampings, but I'm sure you already checked for that. Thats a nice size, I usually see em in 8's or 10's. Do you have caps and lug nuts for em?

07-03-2007, 10:27 PM	#3
jamie72 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: madison indiana Posts: 3,839	Re: slotted mags ID??? cragers??? looks like the 3 hole centers... looks nice thou!! __________________ jamie72 72 BB cheyenne -- Restoration getting started.. member #807 http://www.myspace.com/whitetailobsession www.antlertalk.com

07-03-2007, 10:49 PM	#4
lbpd719 Zappaphile! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Los Banos, California Posts: 228	Re: slotted mags ID??? most likely an early "American" set.. The most collectible of that style was the "Shelby Cal-500", which was an actual magnesium wheel (100%), thus the name "Mags". American, Cragar, and several importers made them, however most were aluminum or some mixture of alunimum with magnesium. Back side will tell you alot more about them though.. Cragars will be marked with a CM usually in the casting.. American's had the more dominant "3 hole" cap early on, moving to the captive cap with the "A". Cragars and Shelby's are commonly 4 hole caps. The correct Shelby caps will have a cobra on them and are a little more difficult to find. Shelbys are also able to be spot by the way they are machined, and they were the only ones with a groove near the top of the bead on the rim. __________________ 1969 C20 LWB Camper Special - The Beater.. 1998 Cheyenne V6 - 4/6 Drop - For The Son

07-03-2007, 11:14 PM	#5
trkklr77 Account Suspended Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: vacaville ca, because it as far from indy as i can be Posts: 777	Re: slotted mags ID??? typicaly $100-200 for a common size like 15x7/8 a set ive seen 10s and 4s go for 200 a pair a few acttual halibrand all mag rims where asking 1500 a pair!!!!!!

07-03-2007, 10:45 PM	#6
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,852	Re: slotted mags ID??? They look like American Racing ones I had.I had two sets in the late`80s.I think they were the last ones available. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

07-03-2007, 11:36 PM	#7
chosn 1 fabricator of anythng not wood Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: calgary ab canada Posts: 168	Re: slotted mags ID??? halibrands dont have that recess around the center , they are typically held to the wheel by the center cap

07-03-2007, 11:41 PM	#8
da-burb "Ochre Ogre" Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Springfield, MN Posts: 3,558	Re: slotted mags ID??? I have 1 pair of 8 lug Shelby 500's(looking for a matching pair BTW). mdillon was just out to my place last week and he has a set that looked just like that for his Wagoneer. I never knew it before, but same 6 lug pattern, same 7/16 studs. __________________ Bowtie Truck Stop Inc. Mid-West GM Truck Restoration Parts Supplier Your Key Parts, Auto Metal Direct, Dynacorn, and Goodmark dealer. like us @ www.facebook.com/BowtieTruckStop 1971 C-10 Suburban (Ochre) 1971 K-10 Suburban (Ochre) 1972 C-10 Suburban (Ochre) 1972 K-20 Suburban (Yellow- that just aint right!) Springfield, Minnesota 56087

07-04-2007, 06:26 AM	#9
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,852	Re: slotted mags ID??? The only Halibrands I can think of had smaller/shorter holes with a slight ridge around the slots.Many slot wheels had more squared corners than the Americans,like the Jeep wheels.Many had the air valve in the rim and not in the slot like the Americans.These have the step in the rim and center like Americans.The 8-lugs that I`m most familiar with had differences from the 15" wheels due to heavier application and larger diameter.The step in the rim is more pronounces and the slots are closer to the rim.Here are some Americans in 8-lug: Here are some that are not Americans: Halibrand These were called "dish mags" before we started calling them "slots".The name "mag" was a reference to all early racing wheels made of magneseum,but mostly the 5 spoke design was considered a mag.The others used another word to identify them,like "dish". __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~ Last edited by special-K; 07-04-2007 at 06:44 AM.

07-04-2007, 08:25 AM	#10
Huck Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Shelbyville, KY Posts: 3,269	Re: slotted mags ID??? OK back to my 6 lug's----I have found some lettering which say FORGED and they appear to be individually serial numbered with a unique number for each wheel. The more I look at them, the more I kind of like the look so perhaps there is a way to firure out who made them, then find a source for center caps, and finally, what is the best way to clean them up??? There are plenty of light scratches and curb rubs but nothing really nasty. I think they will go nicely my my 68 SWB project truck and I like staying with 15" as tires are a whole lot cheaper then 16-17" etc.

07-04-2007, 08:41 AM	#11
68GMC454 THE VILLIAGE IDIOT Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tooele, Utah Posts: 1,405	Re: slotted mags ID??? i fyou lived closer to me,,id buy them in a heart beat..i can never find these style fo rim..imo, the best looking rim ever made..would love to find another set for my 68...the sixe you got for the front,,and as deep as possible for the rear.. __________________ honestly honey,,i have no idea how that truck got here.

07-04-2007, 09:32 PM	#12
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,852	Re: slotted mags ID??? I was just showing that I had a clue.I cleaned a set with Mother`s polish and the cames out nice.If they`re not coated and have alot of black spots,you can use etching wheel cleaner.I`ve used Eagle One with 000 steel wool,then polish. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

07-04-2007, 09:37 PM	#13
corn Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: here Posts: 5,789	Re: slotted mags ID??? I have those exact wheels on the front of my 69 not sure what brand they are but I was guessing Ansen sprints or Appliance...

07-05-2007, 12:27 AM	#14
Big D Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Dunlap, IL Posts: 308	Re: slotted mags ID??? I have the same wheels on my 70 GMC, I dont see a brand on them anywhere. My bet is American or maybe Ansen. Used to be you could not give away an old set of slots, Now with the retro look in they usually go for a couple hundred bucks at swap meet. Id like to find a 8 bolt set for my 3/4 ton project __________________ 68 GMC 64 1/2 Mustang convert A bachelor's life is no life for a single man." - Samuel Goldwyn

07-05-2007, 12:56 AM	#15
cstanley Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,229	Re: slotted mags ID??? they look like the Ansen Sprint model A69 from American Racing. I think These are what will wind up on my blazer. a brand new set, polished, painted, or brushed runs $638 from pep boys (cheaper online.) they also make them up to 17x8s. those run about $700 a set. __________________ "Anybody who would paint his truck like this, would go to a minister's funeral dressed in feathers!" - Big Enis Burdett '72 Blazer Restoration Blog: http://sportchicken.blogspot.com/



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07-05-2007, 08:03 AM	#16
Huck Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Shelbyville, KY Posts: 3,269	Re: slotted mags ID??? Thanks everyone for their knowledge and input. I think I now know enough to be dangerous!! Will get stuff to clean them up and polish them to a bright luster----then will need to make a decision on tires. Will stay close to stock but perhaps just a wee bit bigger for kicks. Huck

07-05-2007, 10:19 AM	#17
Solver Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Storm Lake, Ia Posts: 1,449	Re: slotted mags ID??? I can't help identify your wheels but mine are ansen sprints and the bolt circle area is raised on mine rather than dished in like yours are. Attached Images __________________ 1972 Cheyenne Super 20 LWB-Blue 1972 Cheyenne Super 10 LWB-Black 1972 Cheyenne Super 10 LWB-Red 1972 Cheyenne Super 10 LWB-green 1972 GMC 4x4 LWB-White 1971 Cheyenne 10 LWB-Ochre 1971 Cheyenne 20 Longhorn-Copper 1971 Cheyenne 20 Longhorn-Black 1969 Custom 10 LWB-lt blue 1968 GMC 3/4 ton-green 1968 1/2 ton swb stepside-silver 1967 Chevrolet CST 10 LWB-green 1967 Chevrolet custom 20 LWB-Maroon

07-05-2007, 03:54 PM	#18
2bits Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas Posts: 504	Re: slotted mags ID??? Gotta love slots... Wish I had them on my truck! __________________ _______________ Thomas '78 Silverado '74 Monte Carlo '47 Teardrop Trailer East Texas Classics Local Club

07-05-2007, 08:10 PM	#19
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,852	Re: slotted mags ID??? while we`re talkin`slots,some old rides I ran slots on: Can ya tell? My AZ shorty. Camperless. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~ Last edited by special-K; 07-05-2007 at 08:13 PM.

07-05-2007, 11:18 PM	#20
pooz911 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Simi Valley Posts: 145	Re: slotted mags ID??? http://www.roadsters.com/mag/ Dave Mann has a lot of info on the nostalgia wheels. check it out. __________________ www.cardomain.com/id/pooz911

07-06-2007, 02:01 AM	#21
68shortfleet Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dundee, Oregon Posts: 311	Re: slotted mags ID??? I would bet money on those being factory wheels to the late 70's/early 80's jeep wagoneer. They only came in 15x7 factory for the jeep and they had that three screw center cap design. Jason

07-06-2007, 02:35 AM	#22
GREASEMONKEY72 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bakersfield,CA Posts: 7,893	Re: slotted mags ID??? so mine would be american racing wheels? valve stem in the slot Attached Images __________________ -steven Alte Seele S.S. "Allison" '72 C/10 LWB 350SB/TH350 - DD PITBULL IS NOT A CRIME Last edited by GREASEMONKEY72; 07-06-2007 at 02:36 AM.

07-06-2007, 06:55 AM	#23
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,704	Re: slotted mags ID??? Hey Huck, let me know how you make out on the polishing, I think I have to do some sanding be for polishing. Deep stone dings! I just bought a flapper wheel to try out... Bought a set of 5-15x10 for 500. Most I can read is made in Van Nuys Cali. I was thinking Ansen but don't know yet, valve stem is in the slot __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim Last edited by jaros44sr; 07-06-2007 at 06:56 AM.

07-06-2007, 10:54 AM	#25
stllookn Saving 1 truck at a time! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kent, WA Posts: 6,465	Re: slotted mags ID??? I used fine scotch brite pads from my local auto paint store then some Mothers. I was not going for the polished look...I like a softer satin finish like the original wheels...and yes...I know some of the originals were polished. Before and after shots...only about 30 minutes per wheel. Attached Images __________________ '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 400/TH400 '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 468/TH400w/buckets '72 C20 Halfhorn (Longhorn w/o cab and front clip) '69 Flxible Cruiser (look up ugly in the dictionary) Last edited by stllookn; 07-06-2007 at 10:56 AM.

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