Lets talk hub caps...3/4 ton and one ton - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

Longhorn Man · 06-09-2006, 07:50 PM

About 2 or 3 years ago, someone on here found an NOS 1969 hubcap still in the box, and was startled to discover it was gray, and not white nor stainless.
Does anyone know who this was?
Did anyone save the photo?

I have 3 of these. I remember they are 69 only items. However, I noticed something really wierd... they aren't as tall as the white caps nor the stainless ones.

Has anyone discovered odd looking ORIGINAL wheels that would hold the hubcap further out? I don't see how these would clear the axle in the back.

stllookn · 06-09-2006, 08:09 PM

I only know about '67 and '68 caps...LOL! I have identified 5 different hub caps for the '68 trucks and that does not include full wheel covers!

Longhorn Man · 06-09-2006, 08:37 PM

Well, here is a pic of my one decent looking gray one.. and yes, decent is kinda graded on a curve, it is \pretty beat up.
Notice the height of the center dome.
When I was cleaning these up, I noticed the dome height, and that's when i realized that these 2 white ones (obviously painted by some inbred hillbilly) were actually gray ones. I studied the chips on them, and they are in fact gray underneath.

**Bob B.** · 06-09-2006, 09:12 PM

Just a guess: The taller ones are for trucks with Dana 60 rear axles, the short ones are for G.M. rear axles? The hub sticks out farther on the Dana 60. Some time ago, we had a similar discussion on the centers being concave or convex. I went through my old hubcaps, and it seems that the '69 caps are convex, and the '73 caps I have are concave. Also, the '69 caps have painted centers, and the '73 caps do not (all mine are stainless).

**too much stuff** · 06-09-2006, 09:20 PM

Andy, i didn't see anything in the silver book, but i will look through again.

Robert1970C20rstbukt · 06-09-2006, 09:10 PM

I've never seen caps like those before. I have five of the white ones, four came from a 69 and the other from a 70 and none of 'em are short like that. The old 16x6" split rims from my truck have only three knubs in a triangle pattern on the wheel to hold the caps on and it looks like it might make the hubcap stick out more to clear the axle hub on the rear. I had two of those wheels on the rear of the truck with '76-'85 hubcaps for awhile and now that I think about it, those did kind of stick out more than the fronts which were solid 16x6.5 GM wheels, even though it just had the aluminum dogdish caps on there.

Longhorn Man · 06-09-2006, 10:34 PM

I'm pretty sure that the whole concave center of the hub cap thing is bogus. I've looked at a ton of old adds, factory photos... and never saw a single convex one.
Those stainless ones came on trucks with corp (eaton) axles, so that theory is out the window.
I have yet to actually install an original 16.5 rim (I have one as a spare, maybe I'll do it tomorow night at the shop) but I just can't see it clearing.

All these caps were sitting on the floorboard of the longhorn when i got it. Randy (oldchev4X4) had nabbed them at a swap meet or something. I had thought the white ones were normal white ones, and the gray one was a custom job from a previouse owner. I never gave it much though, just flipped them upside down and used them as nut and bolt holders.
Then a few years ago, some one on here posted a NOS score, and some one else had the info saying it was from an early 69. When I saw that, i threw it in a box and it disapeared for a while, and I finally found it the other day.

72_Chev_Truck · 06-09-2006, 10:44 PM

wow.... i think i just pulled one of those out of the garbage hole and it had a hole burned through the center of it.... i may have some of those laying around, i will have to look through my stack tomorrow to see if i have them

Down south truckin · 06-10-2006, 12:30 AM

maybe the shallow ones fit the 16inch 6-lug wheels =1/2 ton =no hub protruding Mike

Longhorn Man · 06-10-2006, 12:38 AM

nope, the diameter is too big for 1/2 ton wheels.

Down south truckin · 06-10-2006, 12:50 AM

actually i've had a set before that were 6-lug but were 16 inch that held the larger 3/4 ton hubcap i dont know if they were factory or not ? i may have some pictures but it will take a while to dig them up and scan them

dwaite72lnghrn · 06-10-2006, 06:50 AM

Andy here is a 16.5 cap from my truck. Dad ran them for awhile but with the 9.50x16.5 bias tire were so stiff they kept flying off every pothole so he took them off for good. He lost 1 from 1 pothole so I only have 3 now.
I have the H072 axle which sticks out further than the dana 60 and they fit. Stock 16.5x6.75 rim.

**special-K** · 06-10-2006, 08:26 AM

Andy,those caps were sold as an accessory to put on the side-mount spare on 20 and 30 series Stepsides in`69.I just bought a truck like that yesterday from GN4u2C.

BLAZERMAN · 06-10-2006, 09:55 AM

I think this is the post your looking for. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=114924

*gn4u2c* · 06-10-2006, 06:11 PM

yeah It looks like my dealer parts book shows them as "side mount spare deluxe cover" this book is dated 09/68 for 69 model year light/medium duty trucks.

**special-K** · 06-10-2006, 09:31 PM

That thread doesn`t explain the lower profile,though.The silver was definatelate early(first design)`69.

longhorn70gmc · 06-10-2006, 09:33 PM

Andy,
I have been trying to say there is a difference in these and the reagular ones. I have two of these and they are stainless. I put them on my 16.5 rims on the back and they do not fit. They onlt fit the front.
Take care Andy,

**special-K** · 06-11-2006, 09:44 PM

Ttt

**RPOZ11** · 06-11-2006, 10:18 PM

Mine are the stainless version, not the painted ones..
My Truck has an EATON!

longhorn70gmc · 06-12-2006, 02:19 AM

Andy,
You gonna sandblast those and restore them to ORIGINAL?

hugger69SWBCST · 06-12-2006, 08:10 PM

I saw some like thoses in a 74 or 76 or similar. My truck came with big chrome ones and have thoses fake lugnuts and the little Bowtied in the midle. Wish I see them also in a 71 Supercheyane.

**special-K** · 06-14-2006, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hugger69SWBCST

I saw some like thoses in a 74 or 76 or similar. My truck came with big chrome ones and have thoses fake lugnuts and the little Bowtied in the midle. Wish I see them also in a 71 Supercheyane.

You have a 1/2 ton with 15" wheels and the optional full wheel covers which had blue bowties in 69-72.In 73 & 74 the bowtie was yellow.The dog-dish hubcaps in this thread ran the same years with thesame color bowties.We are discussing the larger version that came on 8-lug trucks.These particular ones don`t dome out from the wheel in the center as much as most.It`s unusual.I say call Robert Stack.

*gn4u2c* · 06-13-2006, 08:45 AM

super cheyenne

**special-K** · 06-13-2006, 07:48 PM

Super Cayenne.

hugger69SWBCST · 06-14-2006, 08:20 PM

chayane super?

06-09-2006, 07:50 PM	#1
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Lets talk hub caps...3/4 ton and one ton About 2 or 3 years ago, someone on here found an NOS 1969 hubcap still in the box, and was startled to discover it was gray, and not white nor stainless. Does anyone know who this was? Did anyone save the photo? I have 3 of these. I remember they are 69 only items. However, I noticed something really wierd... they aren't as tall as the white caps nor the stainless ones. Has anyone discovered odd looking ORIGINAL wheels that would hold the hubcap further out? I don't see how these would clear the axle in the back.

06-09-2006, 08:09 PM	#2
stllookn Saving 1 truck at a time! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kent, WA Posts: 6,465	Re: Lets talk hub caps...3/4 ton and one ton I only know about '67 and '68 caps...LOL! I have identified 5 different hub caps for the '68 trucks and that does not include full wheel covers! __________________ '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 400/TH400 '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 468/TH400w/buckets '72 C20 Halfhorn (Longhorn w/o cab and front clip) '69 Flxible Cruiser (look up ugly in the dictionary)

06-09-2006, 08:37 PM	#3
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Lets talk hub caps...3/4 ton and one ton Well, here is a pic of my one decent looking gray one.. and yes, decent is kinda graded on a curve, it is \pretty beat up. Notice the height of the center dome. When I was cleaning these up, I noticed the dome height, and that's when i realized that these 2 white ones (obviously painted by some inbred hillbilly) were actually gray ones. I studied the chips on them, and they are in fact gray underneath. Attached Images

06-09-2006, 09:12 PM	#4
Bob B. Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,318	Re: Lets talk hub caps...3/4 ton and one ton Just a guess: The taller ones are for trucks with Dana 60 rear axles, the short ones are for G.M. rear axles? The hub sticks out farther on the Dana 60. Some time ago, we had a similar discussion on the centers being concave or convex. I went through my old hubcaps, and it seems that the '69 caps are convex, and the '73 caps I have are concave. Also, the '69 caps have painted centers, and the '73 caps do not (all mine are stainless). __________________ 1967 GMC CM-2500 Camper Cruiser, 351E V-6, NP 435 4 speed, Dana 60, and factory A/C. 2012 GMC K-3500 WT regular cab, 6.0L Vortec, 6L90.

06-09-2006, 09:20 PM	#5
too much stuff Roadtrip! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Grand Rapids MN Posts: 13,713	Re: Lets talk hub caps...3/4 ton and one ton Andy, i didn't see anything in the silver book, but i will look through again. __________________ 67 gmc custom lwb dakota truck. Sold...And bought back 69 swb 4x4 project (in progress) 70 c-10 lwb texas truck 70 4x4/BB/bkts/posi/tach(retired) 70 swb (wifes) 70 jimmy camper 71 K-5 factory 2wd 71 cheyenne 4x4/tach/posi/ plow rig 71 Cheyenne20 BB, buckets, tach, tilt, 4 speed 72 jimmy CST wyoming rig 72 jimmy Colorado rig 72 lifted texas 4x4 3/4 ton burb 65 fury conv. 383/auto 65 chrysler 300 "L" 413 auto

06-09-2006, 09:10 PM	#6
Robert1970C20rstbukt Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Beeville, Texas Posts: 1,943	Re: Lets talk hub caps...3/4 ton and one ton I've never seen caps like those before. I have five of the white ones, four came from a 69 and the other from a 70 and none of 'em are short like that. The old 16x6" split rims from my truck have only three knubs in a triangle pattern on the wheel to hold the caps on and it looks like it might make the hubcap stick out more to clear the axle hub on the rear. I had two of those wheels on the rear of the truck with '76-'85 hubcaps for awhile and now that I think about it, those did kind of stick out more than the fronts which were solid 16x6.5 GM wheels, even though it just had the aluminum dogdish caps on there. __________________ RJD 1984 Chevrolet C30 welding truck 454/SM465 1977 GMC C15 pickup 350/TH350 1970 Chevrolet C20 pickup 350/TH400 1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban 454/TH350 1969 GMC 8500 478M V6/5 spd winch truck

06-09-2006, 10:34 PM	#7
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Lets talk hub caps...3/4 ton and one ton I'm pretty sure that the whole concave center of the hub cap thing is bogus. I've looked at a ton of old adds, factory photos... and never saw a single convex one. Those stainless ones came on trucks with corp (eaton) axles, so that theory is out the window. I have yet to actually install an original 16.5 rim (I have one as a spare, maybe I'll do it tomorow night at the shop) but I just can't see it clearing. All these caps were sitting on the floorboard of the longhorn when i got it. Randy (oldchev4X4) had nabbed them at a swap meet or something. I had thought the white ones were normal white ones, and the gray one was a custom job from a previouse owner. I never gave it much though, just flipped them upside down and used them as nut and bolt holders. Then a few years ago, some one on here posted a NOS score, and some one else had the info saying it was from an early 69. When I saw that, i threw it in a box and it disapeared for a while, and I finally found it the other day.

06-09-2006, 10:44 PM	#8
72_Chev_Truck Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Minnesota Posts: 93	Re: Lets talk hub caps...3/4 ton and one ton wow.... i think i just pulled one of those out of the garbage hole and it had a hole burned through the center of it.... i may have some of those laying around, i will have to look through my stack tomorrow to see if i have them

06-10-2006, 12:30 AM	#9
Down south truckin Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Lilburn Georgia Posts: 1,240	Re: Lets talk hub caps...3/4 ton and one ton maybe the shallow ones fit the 16inch 6-lug wheels =1/2 ton =no hub protruding Mike

06-10-2006, 12:38 AM	#10
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Lets talk hub caps...3/4 ton and one ton nope, the diameter is too big for 1/2 ton wheels.

06-10-2006, 12:50 AM	#11
Down south truckin Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Lilburn Georgia Posts: 1,240	Re: Lets talk hub caps...3/4 ton and one ton actually i've had a set before that were 6-lug but were 16 inch that held the larger 3/4 ton hubcap i dont know if they were factory or not ? i may have some pictures but it will take a while to dig them up and scan them

06-10-2006, 06:50 AM	#12
dwaite72lnghrn Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: central pa Posts: 1,525	Re: Lets talk hub caps...3/4 ton and one ton Andy here is a 16.5 cap from my truck. Dad ran them for awhile but with the 9.50x16.5 bias tire were so stiff they kept flying off every pothole so he took them off for good. He lost 1 from 1 pothole so I only have 3 now. I have the H072 axle which sticks out further than the dana 60 and they fit. Stock 16.5x6.75 rim. Attached Images __________________ 72 longhorn c30 502BB/th400/fact air/4.11rear/ custom camper 72 bug(the better half's) under reconstruction 2009 HHR aqua blue 71 GMC k20 350/sm465 2009 Chevy hd3500 6.6 Victory Red crew cab dually Dave & Jeanne Last edited by dwaite72lnghrn; 06-10-2006 at 06:53 AM.

06-10-2006, 08:26 AM	#13
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,861	Re: Lets talk hub caps...3/4 ton and one ton Andy,those caps were sold as an accessory to put on the side-mount spare on 20 and 30 series Stepsides in`69.I just bought a truck like that yesterday from GN4u2C. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

06-10-2006, 09:55 AM	#14
BLAZERMAN Currently Blazerless Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: St. Joseph Mo. Posts: 4,826	Re: Lets talk hub caps...3/4 ton and one ton I think this is the post your looking for. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=114924 __________________ 1972 C/30 133" W.B. C&C 1970 GMC 3500 157" W.B. single wheel C&C

06-10-2006, 06:11 PM	#15
gn4u2c Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: southern pa Posts: 698	Re: Lets talk hub caps...3/4 ton and one ton yeah It looks like my dealer parts book shows them as "side mount spare deluxe cover" this book is dated 09/68 for 69 model year light/medium duty trucks.



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06-10-2006, 09:31 PM	#16
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,861	Re: Lets talk hub caps...3/4 ton and one ton That thread doesn`t explain the lower profile,though.The silver was definatelate early(first design)`69. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

06-10-2006, 09:33 PM	#17
longhorn70gmc Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Ridgecrest. CA, USA Posts: 1,715	Re: Lets talk hub caps...3/4 ton and one ton Andy, I have been trying to say there is a difference in these and the reagular ones. I have two of these and they are stainless. I put them on my 16.5 rims on the back and they do not fit. They onlt fit the front. Take care Andy, __________________ Billy 1970 GMC Sierra Grande 402/TH400 (Longhorn)14 years and counting rebuild! 1975 (Build) Chevrolet SWB 4X4 350 SB Lifted 6 inches 1970 Ford F250 Ranger 390 BB 2010 Ford Super Duty F250 XLT W/4 inch lift kit and Pro Comp Tires Hub Cap Freak! *I need another truck like I need another hole in the head!* I'M IN THE MARKET...AS IT WERE!

06-11-2006, 09:44 PM	#18
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,861	Re: Lets talk hub caps...3/4 ton and one ton Ttt __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

06-11-2006, 10:18 PM	#19
RPOZ11 72 BB C30 Super LongHorn Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Chavez Ravine Posts: 1,606	Re: Lets talk hub caps...3/4 ton and one ton Mine are the stainless version, not the painted ones.. My Truck has an EATON! __________________ 72 BB C/30 Longhorn Super HO72 No-Spin, #'s matching, Tilt, Tach, AC, AM/FM HO72 build : http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=714492 2017 SS

06-12-2006, 02:19 AM	#20
longhorn70gmc Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Ridgecrest. CA, USA Posts: 1,715	Re: Lets talk hub caps...3/4 ton and one ton Andy, You gonna sandblast those and restore them to ORIGINAL? __________________ Billy 1970 GMC Sierra Grande 402/TH400 (Longhorn)14 years and counting rebuild! 1975 (Build) Chevrolet SWB 4X4 350 SB Lifted 6 inches 1970 Ford F250 Ranger 390 BB 2010 Ford Super Duty F250 XLT W/4 inch lift kit and Pro Comp Tires Hub Cap Freak! *I need another truck like I need another hole in the head!* I'M IN THE MARKET...AS IT WERE!

06-12-2006, 08:10 PM	#21
hugger69SWBCST Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Rogers, Arkansas Posts: 52	Re: Lets talk hub caps...3/4 ton and one ton I saw some like thoses in a 74 or 76 or similar. My truck came with big chrome ones and have thoses fake lugnuts and the little Bowtied in the midle. Wish I see them also in a 71 Supercheyane.

06-13-2006, 08:45 AM	#23
gn4u2c Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: southern pa Posts: 698	Re: Lets talk hub caps...3/4 ton and one ton super cheyenne

06-13-2006, 07:48 PM	#24
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,861	Re: Lets talk hub caps...3/4 ton and one ton Super Cayenne. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

06-14-2006, 08:20 PM	#25
hugger69SWBCST Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Rogers, Arkansas Posts: 52	Re: Lets talk hub caps...3/4 ton and one ton chayane super?

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