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SCOTI · 05-24-2004, 10:21 PM

Some of you guys were asking about mini-tubbing & wanted to see some pics. As I stated in the other thread, mine is more than a 'mini-tub', but the same rule would apply just on a smaller scale. I also stepped my bed floor about 4".

I used 15x14" custom corvette ralleys w/9.75" of backspacing. Someone asked who I bought them from but I can't say for certain. I looked through my receipts & the only 'ralley wheel' receipt I could find was for another set of 15's I had made from a company called 'Ralley America' in March of 1992. I bought the 15x14's later & I'm pretty sure they came from Stockton wheel. I do know they had a service where they would send you a wheel w/the center pressed in so you could verify the offset would clear everything before permanently welding it in place.

For tires, I had MickeyThompson Sportsmans, 31x18.5x15. The truck was lowered about 6" and everything cleared. I shortened the stock panhard bar to center the rearend @ ride height.

Here are some of the pics . . ......

SCOTI · 05-24-2004, 10:25 PM

Close-up of both sides w/o tubs. You can barely see my homemade c-section & reinforcement on top of the frame rail . . .....

SCOTI · 05-24-2004, 10:28 PM

Side view, rear, & bottom of the wheel tub.

SCOTI · 05-24-2004, 10:30 PM

Here's a couple to give you the numbers . . .....

SCOTI · 05-24-2004, 10:32 PM

The tubs installed (but not bolted in) & a couple 3/4 view front shots from each side . . ....

SCOTI · 05-24-2004, 10:40 PM

The numbers for the backspacing were for my truck which had the 67/8 stock width 12bolt coil spring rear. The frame rails are stock width & unmodified except for the c-sections & reinforcements. I did remove the factory bumpstops & routed the e-brake cable so they wouldn't rub the inside of the tires.

69 Short Fleet · 05-25-2004, 12:02 AM

Beautiful craftmanship SCOTTI (love to see more pics when its done). Doug

SCOTI · 05-25-2004, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 69 Short Fleet

Beautiful craftmanship SCOTTI (love to see more pics when its done). Doug

I can only take partial credit. I've had a lot of help along the way from some good friends & roomates over the years (and an ex-wife that put up w/it for many more). I will take full credit for it's direction & delay though

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**N2TRUX** · 05-25-2004, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SCOTI

I will take full credit for it's direction & delay though .

Do I have to get in on this? Very good looking work Scoti. Too bad we will never see the finished truck...

SCOTI · 05-25-2004, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by N2TRUX

Too bad we will never see the finished truck...

Ken, I have a goal. It will be met.

crazy longhorn · 05-25-2004, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTI

Ken, I have a goal. It will be met.

Good things come to those who are patient enough to spend the time on that last detail

crazyL

n2billet · 08-16-2007, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SCOTI

Ken, I have a goal. It will be met.

Scoti, please share this with us!

miket · 05-25-2004, 12:04 AM

Hmmmm....thats really making me think about doing mine....I would like to see some pics when it's got wheels and tires on it.

68c10owner · 05-25-2004, 01:03 AM

why did you raise the floor between the tubs? was it nessesary? great pics. got any with the wheels and tires on it?

SCOTI · 05-25-2004, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 68c10owner

why did you raise the floor between the tubs? was it nessesary?

The bed floor was raised because @ ride height the floor was resting on the rearends pumpkin (it's a little more than 6" now

so yes it was necessary.

As for pics w/the big wheels & Mickeys? Sorry, they're long gone. It got some 18's & 20's for a while but they migrated to my 74. I've got plans for some new rollers (1 off customs) that scream Retro but they're gonna be $$.

My original intentions were to drive it w/the Mickeys for a while until they came out w/decent size tires for big diameter wheels (this was a few yrs ago by the way). But I decided not to compromise the build.... it will take as long as it takes to get it right, & not leave the garage until it's ready.

**Yukon Jack** · 05-25-2004, 02:36 PM

Very clean!!

Quagmire · 05-25-2004, 08:51 PM

looks awesome!

who did the sheetmetal work?

SCOTI · 05-25-2004, 09:30 PM

This truck has been worked on by several individuals & shops. The cab work (corners & rockers) were done by a friend that worked for Sachse Rod Shop. I was fortunate enough to know the shop owner & son & was able to do a lot of the sheetmetal stuff in their building but the main metal/bodywork was done by Monty Ditmer of Dallas after he left their business.

Another one of Sachses x-employees, Roger, did an awsome job whipping me up a smooth cowl in exchange for letting them use my cab to build another customers smooth cowl (less warpage when it's bolted in place). He's now the same guy that N2TRUX had revamp his 77 Cheyenne. His fab skills are flat out awesome & he has a good eye for details.

I did the bed floor mods & had a good friend that welds precision sheetmetal actually weld it up for me after my attempts were less than desirable (I wanted minimal weld build-up/max penetration). I did the firewall & all the various fabbed panels..... I left the welding to the experts.

Monty is in business for himself @ Montiac Racing, Dallas TX. Roger is the shop manager @ Stoked Out Specialties in Rockwall TX.

I'm currently waiting for final suspension measurements to build my new front wheelwells & will seek 'Stoked Out's' guidance on hood hinge mods/relocation. All the sheetmetal was blasted bare (even the NEW, NOS, front GM fenders) then epoxy primed before bodywork started.

It will be completed.

**N2TRUX** · 05-26-2004, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SCOTI

....It will be completed.

Tic...tic...tic... We are waiting...

67_SS396 · 05-26-2004, 01:43 AM

Great work Scot! I sure would like to see this thing in person though.

FYI, I still haven't made it to the track yet, I just haven't had the time.

XXL · 08-01-2004, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SCOTI

Monty Ditmer of Dallas after he left their business.

Yikes! I haven't heard that name in a LONG time. He and I did some work together many moons ago when he had a shop on the southwest side of 635 and I35.

SCOTI · 08-01-2004, 01:44 AM

He's still there. I've known Monty & his brother for many, many years....

XXL · 08-01-2004, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SCOTI

He's still there. I've known Monty & his brother for many, many years....

We've probably bumped into one another at some point then. I've been out of DFW since '95 but had a shop in North Arlington (actually on the GP side of 360... but "North Arlington" sounds more upscale

), and used to do handpainted pin stripes all over the metroplex as well as a wide range of custom stuff... mostly suspension work. Now I have a "real" career... which really means I work all the time so I have to pay others to work on my projects

JalopyToGo · 05-26-2004, 06:56 AM

Awsome, now I know why I haven't seen ya in a while. I am way behind ya on my projects but am working on them. Got lots more parts. Yes I know gotta quit collecting parts and start building. Thought I would wait till it gets real hot outside to start!

**Yukon Jack** · 05-26-2004, 09:59 AM

I showed these pics to a buddy of mine who might have to do the same thing. He wanted to know how you did the raised floor bends. They are so straight and even, just wondering what you had to do to get that great result. He also asked how you widened the wheel tubs.

05-24-2004, 10:21 PM	#1
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,031	Requested Tubbing Pics Some of you guys were asking about mini-tubbing & wanted to see some pics. As I stated in the other thread, mine is more than a 'mini-tub', but the same rule would apply just on a smaller scale. I also stepped my bed floor about 4". I used 15x14" custom corvette ralleys w/9.75" of backspacing. Someone asked who I bought them from but I can't say for certain. I looked through my receipts & the only 'ralley wheel' receipt I could find was for another set of 15's I had made from a company called 'Ralley America' in March of 1992. I bought the 15x14's later & I'm pretty sure they came from Stockton wheel. I do know they had a service where they would send you a wheel w/the center pressed in so you could verify the offset would clear everything before permanently welding it in place. For tires, I had MickeyThompson Sportsmans, 31x18.5x15. The truck was lowered about 6" and everything cleared. I shortened the stock panhard bar to center the rearend @ ride height. Here are some of the pics . . ...... Attached Images __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

05-24-2004, 10:25 PM	#2
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,031	Close-up of both sides w/o tubs. You can barely see my homemade c-section & reinforcement on top of the frame rail . . ..... Attached Images __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.* Last edited by SCOTI; 05-24-2004 at 10:35 PM.

05-24-2004, 10:28 PM	#3
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,031	Side view, rear, & bottom of the wheel tub. Attached Images __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

05-24-2004, 10:30 PM	#4
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,031	Here's a couple to give you the numbers . . ..... Attached Images __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

05-24-2004, 10:32 PM	#5
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,031	The tubs installed (but not bolted in) & a couple 3/4 view front shots from each side . . .... Attached Images __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

05-24-2004, 10:40 PM	#6
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,031	The numbers for the backspacing were for my truck which had the 67/8 stock width 12bolt coil spring rear. The frame rails are stock width & unmodified except for the c-sections & reinforcements. I did remove the factory bumpstops & routed the e-brake cable so they wouldn't rub the inside of the tires. __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

05-25-2004, 12:02 AM	#7
69 Short Fleet Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Kelowna B.C. Canada Posts: 1,086	Beautiful craftmanship SCOTTI (love to see more pics when its done). Doug

05-25-2004, 12:04 AM	#13
miket Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 1,466	Hmmmm....thats really making me think about doing mine....I would like to see some pics when it's got wheels and tires on it. __________________ FocuzTech Performance Evergreen Protective Coatings Gatorhyde...the best kept secret in spray in bed lining & protection

05-25-2004, 01:03 AM	#14
68c10owner Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Carmichael, California Posts: 3,006	why did you raise the floor between the tubs? was it nessesary? great pics. got any with the wheels and tires on it? __________________ Anthony

05-25-2004, 02:36 PM	#16
Yukon Jack Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA Posts: 12,684	Very clean!! __________________ 1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift 1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile 2012 Kawasaki Concours 14

05-25-2004, 08:51 PM	#17
Quagmire A splendid one to behold Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: moore, ok Posts: 251	looks awesome! who did the sheetmetal work? __________________ 67 swb 02 wrx

05-25-2004, 09:30 PM	#18
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,031	This truck has been worked on by several individuals & shops. The cab work (corners & rockers) were done by a friend that worked for Sachse Rod Shop. I was fortunate enough to know the shop owner & son & was able to do a lot of the sheetmetal stuff in their building but the main metal/bodywork was done by Monty Ditmer of Dallas after he left their business. Another one of Sachses x-employees, Roger, did an awsome job whipping me up a smooth cowl in exchange for letting them use my cab to build another customers smooth cowl (less warpage when it's bolted in place). He's now the same guy that N2TRUX had revamp his 77 Cheyenne. His fab skills are flat out awesome & he has a good eye for details. I did the bed floor mods & had a good friend that welds precision sheetmetal actually weld it up for me after my attempts were less than desirable (I wanted minimal weld build-up/max penetration). I did the firewall & all the various fabbed panels..... I left the welding to the experts. Monty is in business for himself @ Montiac Racing, Dallas TX. Roger is the shop manager @ Stoked Out Specialties in Rockwall TX. I'm currently waiting for final suspension measurements to build my new front wheelwells & will seek 'Stoked Out's' guidance on hood hinge mods/relocation. All the sheetmetal was blasted bare (even the NEW, NOS, front GM fenders) then epoxy primed before bodywork started. It will be completed. __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

05-26-2004, 01:43 AM	#20
67_SS396 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Blue Ridge, Tx Posts: 1,172	Great work Scot! I sure would like to see this thing in person though. FYI, I still haven't made it to the track yet, I just haven't had the time. __________________ Fawker Fab three seater rock crawler buggy 498 BBC/SM465/203/205 doubler, propane, 5.13's, 42" PB Rockers '66 C10 - The new hot rod '77 3+3 Dually - 12 valve 4wd conversion tow rig project '28 Ford 2 door sedan street rod RevLimit Offroad "Hang on beer, we can do this."

08-01-2004, 01:44 AM	#22
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,031	He's still there. I've known Monty & his brother for many, many years.... __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

05-26-2004, 06:56 AM	#24
JalopyToGo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Parker, Tx Posts: 61	Awsome, now I know why I haven't seen ya in a while. I am way behind ya on my projects but am working on them. Got lots more parts. Yes I know gotta quit collecting parts and start building. Thought I would wait till it gets real hot outside to start! __________________ 69 LWB 70 SWB 01 Superduty Diesel 4X4 4door 06 Caddy CTS



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05-26-2004, 09:59 AM	#25
Yukon Jack Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA Posts: 12,684	I showed these pics to a buddy of mine who might have to do the same thing. He wanted to know how you did the raised floor bends. They are so straight and even, just wondering what you had to do to get that great result. He also asked how you widened the wheel tubs. __________________ 1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift 1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile 2012 Kawasaki Concours 14 Last edited by Yukon Jack; 05-26-2004 at 12:06 PM.

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