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1972RedNeck · 07-02-2011, 10:26 PM

Why are Fram filters so despised? What are the best oil filters to run?

TrkEnvy · 07-02-2011, 10:38 PM

Because they use/did use cardboard inside their filters and were notorious for coming apart and sending said cardboard through your motor..
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**70cst** · 07-02-2011, 10:41 PM

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1969stepside · 07-02-2011, 10:46 PM

ac delco pf 1218 all the way never a orange can of death if ac delco filters are good enough for gm to use i will use them as well nothing else will go on my gm cars/trucks but an ac delco

sjarrett71 · 07-02-2011, 11:12 PM

I've used Fram for years and never had a problem.

Here is a link I found upon Googling "oil filter manufacturers". It has some pretty good info:

http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilters/index.html

1972RedNeck · 07-02-2011, 11:39 PM

Are Napa Gold filters any good?

71swb4x4 · 07-03-2011, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 1972RedNeck

Are Napa Gold filters any good?

Yes.

piecesparts · 07-04-2011, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 1972RedNeck

Are Napa Gold filters any good?

Yes they are. They are made by Wix and carry a very good warranty with them. I gave up the Fram line years ago, after the NAPA people came to our construction company's shop and did a seminar on the different filters on the market and what they provided. Now I purchase my NAPA filters when they are holding a filter sale (about twice a year) and I get my filters at a good price. I do all of my own oil changes and do not let others screw with my engines.

treveiger · 07-03-2011, 12:03 AM

Ams oil filters the best of best, next in line wix. Won't ever use anything else other than ams oil filters an if they don't have what I need I go to wix. Run them in quads, cars, diesel, anything I have or work on.
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**mikey531** · 07-04-2011, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by treveiger

Ams oil filters the best of best, next in line wix. Won't ever use anything else other than ams oil filters an if they don't have what I need I go to wix. Run them in quads, cars, diesel, anything I have or work on.
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Same here. Amsoil or Wix.

mbgmike · 07-04-2011, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mikey531

Same here. Amsoil or Wix.

amsoil is a baldwin filter marketed by amsoil. its kind of overpriced when it really not any better than the baldwins. like i said earlier wix is used in the plants a lot ,Baldwin is to

http://www.baldwinfilter.com/

Longhorn Man · 07-03-2011, 12:12 AM

napa gold is a rebadged Wix, a very good high quality filter.
I didn't believe the hype on the fram sucks, so i bought a fram, and a napa gold, and cut them both open. Doing so made a believer out of me.
Fram sucks.

**Stocker** · 07-03-2011, 12:30 AM

I ran Fram filters for a lot of years with no problems. After reading bad press all over the 'net, I now use NAPA Gold... as Andy said, they are repackaged Wix filters, and very good.

BigRed76 · 07-03-2011, 02:26 AM

Mobil 1 oil filters are also really good. Expensive, but you get what you pay for...

**leddzepp** · 07-03-2011, 03:36 AM

Fram is not what it used to be back in the day. Years ago, my dad had an 87 Dodge Ram pickup (beater/driver). After numerous bad experiences at the Jiffy Lubes, he opted to change the oil himself, just like all his older cars and hot rods. He experienced super low oil pressure, and asked around as to why all of the sudden? Someone asked him if he was using Fram oil filters, and he was... After changing to another brand, oil pressure was restored immediately.

Fram sucks.

*72chevy383* · 07-03-2011, 07:35 AM

Yes napa or wix, and yes napa is a wix filter anyway, and my brother-in-law has work for Wix for 32 yrs. I always run Wix in my rides.

smallblockchev · 07-04-2011, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by leddzepp

Fram is not what it used to be back in the day. Years ago, my dad had an 87 Dodge Ram pickup (beater/driver). After numerous bad experiences at the Jiffy Lubes, he opted to change the oil himself, just like all his older cars and hot rods. He experienced super low oil pressure, and asked around as to why all of the sudden? Someone asked him if he was using Fram oil filters, and he was... After changing to another brand, oil pressure was restored immediately.

Fram sucks.

I might be a little slow but how would the oil filter affect your oil pressure?

**leddzepp** · 07-04-2011, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by smallblockchev

I might be a little slow but how would the oil filter affect your oil pressure?

If the filter is restricted or obstructed, oil pressure is affected immediately.

tasian · 07-04-2011, 03:28 AM

i look at fram filters about the same i look at those crappy foam air filters lots of people use them all the time but you do hear about how they got to watch there **** burn to the ground

mbgmike · 07-04-2011, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by smallblockchev

I might be a little slow but how would the oil filter affect your oil pressure?

The media in a filter makes a differance. some are designed for deeper cleaning filtering to like 10 microns and some are designed for higher flow and don't filter that small. any filter in a system affects the pressure. when its in the bypass mode the exception. the more it restricts the pressure goes up.
Red blood cells are around 5 microns for an example

**'68OrangeSunshine** · 07-03-2011, 07:54 AM

I use the Wix 51060 or 51061. I think NAPA drops the "5", so its 1060, 1061. Equivalent to the old AC/ Delco PF35 (tall 1 Qt). [Come to think of it ... I have not seen an AC/Delco PF35 in years.]
I run both an L6 292 (modified), and a V8 350 crate motor. I use the same filters for either.

richards72chevy · 07-03-2011, 08:00 AM

I always thought fram was the best.I run them on all my vehicles.I put 60,000 on my daily driver with nothing but fram filters and no major engine problems so far.

**70cst** · 07-03-2011, 08:14 AM

Hey all...very very good info. Good thread

mbgmike · 07-03-2011, 08:32 AM

I read an article on filter tests but can't remember where but as far as filtration the Purolator filters filtered to 28 microns which were the best of any manufacturer.

CG · 07-03-2011, 08:51 AM

I use Napa gold because I was told they were a premium filter. But if Fram filters are so bad how are they able to sell bazillions of them year after year?

07-02-2011, 10:38 PM	#2
TrkEnvy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 264	Re: The Infamous FRAM Because they use/did use cardboard inside their filters and were notorious for coming apart and sending said cardboard through your motor.. Posted via Mobile Device

07-02-2011, 10:41 PM	#3
70cst Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: New Madison, Ohio Posts: 21,365	Re: The Infamous FRAM Here you go... I hope this helps http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ad.php?t=24935 http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=323538 http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=285422 __________________ A husband can be right...or...A husband can be happy. 67-72 Chevy and GMC Trucks...The Classic Truck for the Classic Folk. 1970 CST Two tone green, 402BB, 400 Automatic, Tach, Buckets, AC, AM-FM, Tilt, GM CB, GM 8 Tract, LWB, etc JOHN 17:3...The better side of "LIFE" Remember: Everyday is a good day...Some are just gooder!

07-02-2011, 10:46 PM	#4
1969stepside Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Johnson City Tennessee Posts: 1,176	Re: The Infamous FRAM ac delco pf 1218 all the way never a orange can of death if ac delco filters are good enough for gm to use i will use them as well nothing else will go on my gm cars/trucks but an ac delco __________________ Greater love hath no man than to lay down his life for a friend. Members i Have met Earl Slick68 1969 Stepside Build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post4253546 Chevy Trucks the longest lasting most dependable trucks on the road

07-02-2011, 11:12 PM	#5
sjarrett71 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rolla, MO Posts: 2,463	Re: The Infamous FRAM I've used Fram for years and never had a problem. Here is a link I found upon Googling "oil filter manufacturers". It has some pretty good info: http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilters/index.html __________________ -Scott- Last edited by sjarrett71; 07-02-2011 at 11:25 PM.

07-03-2011, 12:03 AM	#9
treveiger Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: South Dakota Posts: 4,093	Re: The Infamous FRAM Ams oil filters the best of best, next in line wix. Won't ever use anything else other than ams oil filters an if they don't have what I need I go to wix. Run them in quads, cars, diesel, anything I have or work on. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 1969 Chevy c20(Miss Hackjob)

07-03-2011, 12:12 AM	#12
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: The Infamous FRAM napa gold is a rebadged Wix, a very good high quality filter. I didn't believe the hype on the fram sucks, so i bought a fram, and a napa gold, and cut them both open. Doing so made a believer out of me. Fram sucks.

07-03-2011, 12:30 AM	#13
Stocker 20' Daredevil (Ret) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Jefferson State Posts: 13,591	Re: The Infamous FRAM I ran Fram filters for a lot of years with no problems. After reading bad press all over the 'net, I now use NAPA Gold... as Andy said, they are repackaged Wix filters, and very good. __________________ - Mike - 1972 K20 LWB 350/350/205 RIP El Jay

07-03-2011, 02:26 AM	#14
BigRed76 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Loveland, CO Posts: 1,921	Re: The Infamous FRAM Mobil 1 oil filters are also really good. Expensive, but you get what you pay for... __________________ Zach 1970 Chevrolet Custom Camper K20 1971 GMC Super K2500, 12V/NV4500 swap in progress 1971 Chevrolet Custom C10 1972 Chevrolet Custom Deluxe C20, 5.3/4L60E 1972 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme, 455/TH400, 3.73 posi 2004 GMC Sierra 2500HD, LB7/Allison, CCSB 2005 GMC Sierra 1500, 5.3/4L60E, CCSB

07-03-2011, 03:36 AM	#15
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 19,996	Re: The Infamous FRAM Fram is not what it used to be back in the day. Years ago, my dad had an 87 Dodge Ram pickup (beater/driver). After numerous bad experiences at the Jiffy Lubes, he opted to change the oil himself, just like all his older cars and hot rods. He experienced super low oil pressure, and asked around as to why all of the sudden? Someone asked him if he was using Fram oil filters, and he was... After changing to another brand, oil pressure was restored immediately. Fram sucks. __________________ 1972 C/10 Cheyenne Super SWB. Restored, loaded, slammed. 1968 C/10 50th Anniversary LWB. Unrestored, stock, daily driver/work truck. RIP ElJay RIP 67ChevyRedneck RIP Grumpy Old Man

07-03-2011, 07:35 AM	#16
72chevy383 Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bessemer City, NC Posts: 347	Re: The Infamous FRAM Yes napa or wix, and yes napa is a wix filter anyway, and my brother-in-law has work for Wix for 32 yrs. I always run Wix in my rides.

07-04-2011, 03:28 AM	#19
tasian Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: hangtown, ca Posts: 244	Re: The Infamous FRAM i look at fram filters about the same i look at those crappy foam air filters lots of people use them all the time but you do hear about how they got to watch there ** burn to the ground __________________ Betsy's build** 70 c20 4 speed 406sb

07-03-2011, 07:54 AM	#21
'68OrangeSunshine Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tucson, AZ USA Posts: 7,205	Re: The Infamous FRAM I use the Wix 51060 or 51061. I think NAPA drops the "5", so its 1060, 1061. Equivalent to the old AC/ Delco PF35 (tall 1 Qt). [Come to think of it ... I have not seen an AC/Delco PF35 in years.] I run both an L6 292 (modified), and a V8 350 crate motor. I use the same filters for either. __________________ Every 25 years I like to rebuild that 292, whether it needs it or not.

07-03-2011, 08:00 AM	#22
richards72chevy Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: konawa ok/oakdale Ca. Posts: 1,651	Re: The Infamous FRAM I always thought fram was the best.I run them on all my vehicles.I put 60,000 on my daily driver with nothing but fram filters and no major engine problems so far.

07-03-2011, 08:14 AM	#23
70cst Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: New Madison, Ohio Posts: 21,365	Re: The Infamous FRAM Hey all...very very good info. Good thread __________________ A husband can be right...or...A husband can be happy. 67-72 Chevy and GMC Trucks...The Classic Truck for the Classic Folk. 1970 CST Two tone green, 402BB, 400 Automatic, Tach, Buckets, AC, AM-FM, Tilt, GM CB, GM 8 Tract, LWB, etc JOHN 17:3...The better side of "LIFE" Remember: Everyday is a good day...Some are just gooder!

07-03-2011, 08:32 AM	#24
mbgmike Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Pasadena,Tx /Pto Pta DR Posts: 5,415	Re: The Infamous FRAM I read an article on filter tests but can't remember where but as far as filtration the Purolator filters filtered to 28 microns which were the best of any manufacturer.



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