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Old 01-09-2012, 09:36 PM   #1
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Six speed swap? Who has done it? Yes I searched

I searched many different ways for a 6 speed swap, but every time I search the word (six) or the number (6) gets omitted from the search. I can't find anybody who has done the swap.
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Old 01-10-2012, 01:28 PM   #3
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I just did it to a '69. What do you want to know?
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Old 01-10-2012, 02:00 PM   #4
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Re: Six speed swap? Who has done it? Yes I searched

Do you have any pics of the install? Any helpful hints?

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Old 01-10-2012, 02:29 PM   #5
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Do you have any pics of the install? Any helpful hints?

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see above post....
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Old 01-10-2012, 03:24 PM   #6
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Re: Six speed swap? Who has done it? Yes I searched

I havent taken any good pic other than these that were taken during install.

You can go with or without the high hump. I stuck with my low hump and left the engine in the I6 location and used the I6 engine perches. I used the auto crossmember, but ended up having to flip it and hack it because of clearance with the low hump. I will custom fab a better x member later.


There are two different T-56's, an LS and an LT. The differences are in the belhousing and input shafts. Also 5th and 6th gear will vary and I think the slave cylinder is different. I used an LT cause i got a good deal. Installed a mid shift kit and upgraded syncro keys and shift forks when i rebuilt it. Either way you go, your going to spend alot mating it to a Gen I SBC.

I used American Powertrain for the flywheel and clutch. The flywheel is custom ordered and cheaper than a Centerforce or Fidanza. The clutches they sell as kits or in pieces.

For the slave, i figured out that a '89 comaro slave is an aluminum version of the '93-'96 plastic slave that is supposed to go with the trans. Has the same bore and stroke, cheaper, aluminum, and made in italy.

I removed VSS (skip shift) and plugged the hole with a customized metric oil pan plug. My shift knob has a button that activates the reverse lockout. I havent hooked up reverse lights or electric speedo yet.

You will have to shorten your driveshaft as well. You can buy aftermarket dust sheilds from www.f2b.com for $32.95.
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Old 01-10-2012, 02:14 PM   #7
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Re: Six speed swap? Who has done it? Yes I searched

Need a large hump, I used an auto crossmember. Mine is a LT1 T56 so I have the slave on the side of the bellhousing that causes issues with header clearance. There isn't a whole lot to getting it in there.
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Old 01-10-2012, 08:32 PM   #8
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Re: Six speed swap? Who has done it? Yes I searched

Do you have a picture of the shifter on the interior of the truck?
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Old 01-11-2012, 09:41 AM   #9
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Here you go. The shifter come through about 7-9" forward of the bench seat. This is another reason I chose to use the I6 locations. If the engine was in the V-8 position, the shifter would be furhter forward from this location.
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Old 01-11-2012, 10:49 AM   #10
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Re: Six speed swap? Who has done it? Yes I searched

This is all so RACY I can barely stand to sit here and read it.....Im off to the race barn to see what I can get my hands into. BTW...look at that custom transmission x-member!!! Rottenwood Garage at its best!
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Old 01-11-2012, 11:34 AM   #11
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Re: Six speed swap? Who has done it? Yes I searched

Thanks for posting that picture - I've got the SM465 but it would sure be nice to have the 6 speed.
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Old 01-11-2012, 01:27 PM   #12
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Re: Six speed swap? Who has done it? Yes I searched

The fifth and sixth gear are nice, but you got to do some serious highway driving to use them.

Currently I have a 3.42 12 bolt in the rear. I am cruising at 50mph in 5th gear turning 1200rpm. Thats too low for any incline or acceleration, but it just sips gas on a flat road.

I am building a 12 bolt with 4.10's and an Eaton truetrac currently. I hope to have that in by the end of the month.

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BTW...look at that custom transmission x-member!!! Rottenwood Garage at its best!
Yes, that is a shining example of the kind of thinking that goes on at Rottenwood in the 11th hour. Upside down, backwords, and hacked up.
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The fifth and sixth gear are nice, but you got to do some serious highway driving to use them.

Currently I have a 3.42 12 bolt in the rear. I am cruising at 50mph in 5th gear turning 1200rpm. Thats too low for any incline or acceleration, but it just sips gas on a flat road.

I am building a 12 bolt with 4.10's and an Eaton truetrac currently. I hope to have that in by the end of the month.


Yes, that is a shining example of the kind of thinking that goes on at Rottenwood in the 11th hour. Upside down, backwords, and hacked up.
I'm really interested to see how that works for you so I can decide what gears I'm going to use. What size tires are you going to run in the rear?
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Old 01-11-2012, 07:41 PM   #14
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I'm really interested to see how that works for you so I can decide what gears I'm going to use.

Ok. I'll let you know. Didn't you buy Shifty's LS 6 speed project?

Based on how it rides with the 3.42's, i think the 4.10's will be perfect. My T-56 has the .5:1 6th. I am not happy with my tires right now. They are a little over 29".
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Old 01-11-2012, 09:57 PM   #15
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Ok. I'll let you know. Didn't you buy Shifty's LS 6 speed project?

Based on how it rides with the 3.42's, i think the 4.10's will be perfect. My T-56 has the .5:1 6th. I am not happy with my tires right now. They are a little over 29".
Yes I bought his truck for my son. Are you going to go with a shorter tire? I was thinking 29's with the 4.11 would be just about right....
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Old 01-12-2012, 08:25 PM   #16
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Re: Six speed swap? Who has done it? Yes I searched

Here are a few pictures of mine. LS1 with the T56. I plan on staying with the 3.73 gearing in the rear-end. Its not complete yet.





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Re: Six speed swap? Who has done it? Yes I searched

[quote=trkfrk;5119230]Here are a few pictures of mine. LS1 with the T56. I plan on staying with the 3.73 gearing in the rear-end. Its not complete yet.



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Not to highjack, but ... Is that a "hammered" texture style paint on your chassis? Man, it looks good. Need a close up shot!


Hey, if you decide you need a high hump... I've got one! It's for sale in my Blazer parts thread.
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:31 PM   #18
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EDIT: Exactly which problems are you talking about? I guess I should have asked that first......
he was having a hard time finding a 5/16-24 extension or coupler to hook the clutch pedal to the master cylinder.
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Not to highjack, but ... Is that a "hammered" texture style paint on your chassis? Man, it looks good. Need a close up shot!


Hey, if you decide you need a high hump... I've got one! It's for sale in my Blazer parts thread.
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Yes, its powder coated "Hammered Gray". One of the best decisions I made on my build so far.

I also used a "high hump" but modified it for the new shifter location.

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Old 01-15-2012, 06:46 PM   #20
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Re: Six speed swap? Who has done it? Yes I searched

Ill be doing a T56 swap into my 70 short bed with a sbc 383 and 3:73 gears . Ive got the T56 out of a 06 GTO because it has a taller 1st gear of 2.97 which will help are heavy trucks get out of the whole alot better vs the 2.66 1st gear of the F-body T56's .

I will be staying old school though and using mechanical linkage by using the new Quicktime Bell housing RM-6023PB which i ordered a couple of days ago .

Still gathering all the parts i need , should be soon enough .
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Old 07-23-2012, 11:20 AM   #21
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Dznucks- I'm putting a t56 in my 86 right now. I ran into an issue hope you can help. I have a Gen 1 block centerforce adapter flywheel and I am having troubles finding a starter that fits. Stock wont fit in the bellhousing also tried a stock starter from a 70camaro 4spd car which has a smaller nose but still no go. What are you using for a starter. Also where did you get your 89 slave? Part number?
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