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mikep · 07-29-2002, 04:24 PM

What is the fram number of the long truck style heavy duty oil filter. You know, the 10-12 inch long screw on one. The guy at the parts store thinks I'm nuts.

*Shane* · 07-29-2002, 04:40 PM

The PH-35 is the longest i have ever seen in a Fram "screw-on".......about 4-5 inches long....never seen one longer than that

I use Delco filters, so not totally sure on the Fram part number.....

**68 Stepside** · 07-29-2002, 04:43 PM

I have no idea about a fram filter, but racedvl gets the extra capacity filters for his vehicles. You might just shoot him a PM, and ask for the part number.

TJ

Beast388 · 07-29-2002, 04:58 PM

I use the "long" filters on my truck. They are about 9-10 inches long and hold almost 2 quarts.

Fram = PH373
AC = PF932
Wix = 51794 (the one I use)

There is plenty of ground clearance because I have a 4X4. The 2wd guys may not.

**ThreeQuarter** · 07-29-2002, 05:02 PM

The 327 I bought out of a '68 2wd had one of those on it--has a bolt going through the middle. I thought it was oooold (looked it) and figured they probably didn't make'em like that anymore. Cool.

BLAZERMAN · 07-29-2002, 05:21 PM

I use the ph373 on my truck, you can see how close the filter is to my headers, using the ph35 made it difficult to change and I think the longer filter should help cool the oil when this close to headers.

*Shane* · 07-29-2002, 05:29 PM

HOLY SMOKES!!!! that thing is HUGE......thanks for posting a pic....never seen one of those.....thats what ya gotta love about this board, learning something new everyday.

Longhorn Man · 07-29-2002, 06:06 PM

They used to be common on fleets and emergency vehicles.

TODDS 72 · 07-29-2002, 06:28 PM

HASTINGS FILTER NO.226 IS THE 2QUT.
WIX NO.IS 51794 2QUT.
I CAN"T REMEMBER A/C NO.
I USEUM ON ALL MY V8s.

lukecp · 07-29-2002, 07:20 PM

I was gonna start using those filters...until i saw that the 2qt. Wix filter costs $10. I change my oil about every 2-3 thousand miles anyway so i really don't need one.

gmcblu, the filter you are talking about with the bolt going through it is a cartridge-type oil filter. There is a filter inside of that, and you replace it. You can still get a Wix filter for one of those too.

**Ironhorse** · 07-29-2002, 07:22 PM

Probably not used much any more or may not even be available but on my ' 65 Impala SS Sport Coupe I HAD (key word there HAD) I used a Fram CH200PL which went into a cannister with a thru bolt and used a replaceable ring seal. Thought when they came out with the spin on filter that it was a good improvement. Went out and bought the spin on retro-fit kit as soon as it was available. Seems as if that CH200PL # is burned into my brain.

Denny · 07-29-2002, 07:42 PM

That is the longest filter I ever saw.

mikep · 07-29-2002, 08:23 PM

I ended up getting the NAPA version of that filter which is a couple of inches shorter it seems although they cross reference it to a PH 373. I dont think I could clear my headers with a full length PH 373. Ive used the 373 on a few camaros I had in the past. Their nice when you are using a full flow oil filter adaptor as there is less of a tendency to blow them up when the oil is cold and you are using a high pressure/ hi volume pump. My oil pressure is so high (110 lbs) now when cold I dont dare use a full flow adaptor.

actually I just checked it. The ph373 is only a quarter inch longer. Think I'll use that next time.

Super Chevy · 07-29-2002, 10:02 PM

That Thing is HUGE, i never seen one,i guess you learn something new everyday...

ChevLoRay · 07-29-2002, 10:41 PM

If you are using the cartridge-type, be sure that the o-ring on the adapter is seated properly when you service it. If the o-ring isn't changed with each filter change, it is possible that it can blow out of the groove when the engine is cold, or anytime for that matter. Just be sure it is where it belongs....don't assume that it is good.

**Tim Christian** · 07-29-2002, 10:46 PM

Wow! That Bad Boy is Huge! First one I have ever seen.

mtdave2 · 07-30-2002, 12:37 AM

make sence to me, i have always thought they should spend more time on building better filter and forget all the fancy oil.
if you change your oil every 3-5 k miles like you should you dont need to worry about oil break down, but you do need to worry about particulates IN the oil. thats were these big ass nice filters come into play. even that fancy oil has the same particulats doing the same dammage. so to me.. use the money you are wasting one fancey sythitic oil and use it on filters... but then again, i could be wrong.

*racedvl* · 07-30-2002, 10:37 PM

I do use all those on all my trucks. And as already said, the hastings # is LF226.

jhwkns · 07-30-2002, 11:36 PM

Those must flow very well. I'm going to look for one the next time I change my oil.

07-29-2002, 04:24 PM	#1
mikep Used to have a truck Join Date: May 2002 Location: port orchard WA Posts: 1,552	Long Chevrolet oil filter What is the fram number of the long truck style heavy duty oil filter. You know, the 10-12 inch long screw on one. The guy at the parts store thinks I'm nuts. __________________ No truck :-(

07-29-2002, 04:40 PM	#2
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	The PH-35 is the longest i have ever seen in a Fram "screw-on".......about 4-5 inches long....never seen one longer than that I use Delco filters, so not totally sure on the Fram part number..... Last edited by Shane; 07-29-2002 at 04:45 PM.

07-29-2002, 04:43 PM	#3
68 Stepside huh? Join Date: May 2000 Location: Washington, Illinois Posts: 5,692	I have no idea about a fram filter, but racedvl gets the extra capacity filters for his vehicles. You might just shoot him a PM, and ask for the part number. TJ __________________ Someday when I'm lonely, Wishing you weren't so far away, Then I will remember Things we said today. RIP El Jay

07-29-2002, 04:58 PM	#4
Beast388 Suburbans RULE! Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Clinton, IA 52732 Posts: 689	I use the "long" filters on my truck. They are about 9-10 inches long and hold almost 2 quarts. Fram = PH373 AC = PF932 Wix = 51794 (the one I use) There is plenty of ground clearance because I have a 4X4. The 2wd guys may not. __________________ --Ben 71 GMC Suburban 4X4 The "Beast" 388 CID Stroker, TH350, NP205, 8-lug D44, 14BFF w/ Detroit, 4.10:1 gears, 4-Wheel Disks 4" Lift, 35" MT/R's.

07-29-2002, 05:02 PM	#5
ThreeQuarter Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Texan in Iowa Posts: 2,522	The 327 I bought out of a '68 2wd had one of those on it--has a bolt going through the middle. I thought it was oooold (looked it) and figured they probably didn't make'em like that anymore. Cool. __________________ Ben '68 Chevy C10 Custom LWB 327/TH400 2nd owner '16 GMC Sierra 1500 SLE Dblcab 4wd 5.3

07-29-2002, 05:21 PM	#6
BLAZERMAN Currently Blazerless Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: St. Joseph Mo. Posts: 4,828	I use the ph373 on my truck, you can see how close the filter is to my headers, using the ph35 made it difficult to change and I think the longer filter should help cool the oil when this close to headers. Attached Images __________________ 1972 C/30 133" W.B. C&C 1970 GMC 3500 157" W.B. single wheel C&C

07-29-2002, 05:29 PM	#7
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	HOLY SMOKES!!!! that thing is HUGE......thanks for posting a pic....never seen one of those.....thats what ya gotta love about this board, learning something new everyday.

07-29-2002, 06:06 PM	#8
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	They used to be common on fleets and emergency vehicles.

07-29-2002, 06:28 PM	#9
TODDS 72 Not the nightly winner Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: CHARLEMONT MA.USA Posts: 763	HASTINGS FILTER NO.226 IS THE 2QUT. WIX NO.IS 51794 2QUT. I CAN"T REMEMBER A/C NO. I USEUM ON ALL MY V8s. __________________ 72C10SWB BLUE 350/350 86K10LWB BLUE 5.7 700r4 7.5' fisher plow 93S10XCAB4X4 BLUE 4.3 4L60e 69gmc c10 v8 3 on the tree yellow 72k10 swb 350 3 on the tree green 86k15 swb5.0L 4spd brown

07-29-2002, 07:20 PM	#10
lukecp Formerly yellow72custom Join Date: May 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 7,531	I was gonna start using those filters...until i saw that the 2qt. Wix filter costs $10. I change my oil about every 2-3 thousand miles anyway so i really don't need one. gmcblu, the filter you are talking about with the bolt going through it is a cartridge-type oil filter. There is a filter inside of that, and you replace it. You can still get a Wix filter for one of those too. __________________ '72 Chevy C10 Mild 350/TH350/3.07. Ochre/White. Old high school ride. '70 GMC C2500 '62 327 4bbl/SM465/4.56-geared Dana 60. White/White. Project or parts truck. '97 Saturn SL DD. 1.9/5-speed. 40+ highway mpg

07-29-2002, 07:22 PM	#11
Ironhorse Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Wellington, Ks Posts: 10,285	Probably not used much any more or may not even be available but on my ' 65 Impala SS Sport Coupe I HAD (key word there HAD) I used a Fram CH200PL which went into a cannister with a thru bolt and used a replaceable ring seal. Thought when they came out with the spin on filter that it was a good improvement. Went out and bought the spin on retro-fit kit as soon as it was available. Seems as if that CH200PL # is burned into my brain. __________________ 1971 Chevy 1/2T 4x4 LWB 350 V-8 Was sm465-now 350TH/np205 Tilt, Tach, Towhooks Original Truck AM/FM Wellington, Ks

07-29-2002, 07:42 PM	#12
Denny Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Cedar Hill, MO Posts: 426	That is the longest filter I ever saw. __________________ 1969 Chevy C10. Dakota Digital Gauges, 383 Votex Engine, MSD 8361 Distributor, MSD 6A Unit, Demon Carb, Phoenix Transmission 4L80E trans, 3:73 Posi Rear End Early Classics 6 Lug Disc Brakes and Spindles All Stainless Lines

07-29-2002, 08:23 PM	#13
mikep Used to have a truck Join Date: May 2002 Location: port orchard WA Posts: 1,552	I ended up getting the NAPA version of that filter which is a couple of inches shorter it seems although they cross reference it to a PH 373. I dont think I could clear my headers with a full length PH 373. Ive used the 373 on a few camaros I had in the past. Their nice when you are using a full flow oil filter adaptor as there is less of a tendency to blow them up when the oil is cold and you are using a high pressure/ hi volume pump. My oil pressure is so high (110 lbs) now when cold I dont dare use a full flow adaptor. actually I just checked it. The ph373 is only a quarter inch longer. Think I'll use that next time. __________________ No truck :-( Last edited by mikep; 07-29-2002 at 10:48 PM.

07-29-2002, 10:02 PM	#14
Super Chevy Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,025	That Thing is HUGE, i never seen one,i guess you learn something new everyday...

07-29-2002, 10:41 PM	#15
ChevLoRay Old Skool Club Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Benton, AR "The Heart of Arkansas" Posts: 10,880	If you are using the cartridge-type, be sure that the o-ring on the adapter is seated properly when you service it. If the o-ring isn't changed with each filter change, it is possible that it can blow out of the groove when the engine is cold, or anytime for that matter. Just be sure it is where it belongs....don't assume that it is good. __________________ Member Nr. 2770 '96 GMC Sportside; 4.3/SLT - Daily driven....constantly needs washed. '69 C-10 SWB; 350/TH400 - in limbo The older I get, the better I was.



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07-29-2002, 10:46 PM	#16
Tim Christian Senior Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: TN/VA Posts: 6,388	Wow! That Bad Boy is Huge! First one I have ever seen.

07-30-2002, 12:37 AM	#17
mtdave2 newly minted old timer Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Hudson WI Posts: 3,521	make sence to me, i have always thought they should spend more time on building better filter and forget all the fancy oil. if you change your oil every 3-5 k miles like you should you dont need to worry about oil break down, but you do need to worry about particulates IN the oil. thats were these big ass nice filters come into play. even that fancy oil has the same particulats doing the same dammage. so to me.. use the money you are wasting one fancey sythitic oil and use it on filters... but then again, i could be wrong. __________________ ____________________________________________ 72 c20 longhorn 65k org miles and counting! 69 k10 Suburban

07-30-2002, 10:37 PM	#18
racedvl Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Woodstock, IL Posts: 7,020	I do use all those on all my trucks. And as already said, the hastings # is LF226.

07-30-2002, 11:36 PM	#19
jhwkns Registered Cruiser Join Date: May 2002 Location: Las Vegas NV Posts: 2,230	Those must flow very well. I'm going to look for one the next time I change my oil. __________________ I intend to live forever. So far, so good.

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