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Blackhawkdc · 07-13-2004, 07:08 PM

Hey all, just now tweaking my system for flame shooting exhaust. I've got the ignition system all dialed in for it, just tweaking the carb now and a couple other things to produce some moderate flames on acceleration. Who all out there would be interested in a system like this, should I market it? Any of you out there whom have played with flames before ever played with injecting gas or windshield washer fluid into the exhaust to get the really nice long flames? I've got some ideas for that, just want to tweak the carb to produce flames on its on first. But let me know what kind of interest there is in this and I may put together a kit, or at least diagrams and instructions for sale.

Happy shootin,

Seth Petro

cdowns · 07-13-2004, 07:36 PM

injecting windsheild washer fluid?? all that does is steam because it's soapy water !!
make sure you keep a fire extinguisher handy for when you set the truck on fire . and start savin for a new set of heads when you burn the valvesup!! otherwise it sounds like you're on top of it!!!

*rickspickuppart* · 07-13-2004, 07:42 PM

here is a link to a guy selling the kit on Ebay for $40.00 (it sounds alot safer than injecting flamable liquids into the exhaust). LINK

Shawn

RON WOODGEARD · 07-13-2004, 07:47 PM

Blackhawk, There are a few systems already out for just this, And We OLD timers didn't use the new computer stuff they are today, It was a Rich carb and an extra coil hooked to a Spark Plug through a toggle switch. I never knew or heard of anyone doing any damage whatsoever to anything in the Motor, or exhaust,, But then again, I sure didn't know everyone out there using the Old time method.

I'd be happy to let everyone know what my old time hook up was, Free of charge.. But they say the new computer set ups are really great, and you don't have to run the carb rich..

BtnkBndt · 07-13-2004, 09:47 PM

Bowl a Pintos and a BIC will do it too.

jcueckert13 · 07-14-2004, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BtnkBndt

Bowl a Pintos and a BIC will do it too.

sorry wrong exaust system

just to add a voice of reason to this that setup is illegal for street use.

vtblazer · 07-14-2004, 06:11 PM

WHY?

Blackhawkdc · 07-15-2004, 07:03 PM

Thanks for the voice of reason. Fully aware that flames are illegal on the street, but did that ever stop anyone back in the 50's and 60's?

Seth Petro

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcueckert13

sorry wrong exaust system

just to add a voice of reason to this that setup is illegal for street use.

thisolechevy · 07-13-2004, 11:26 PM

Wow Ron WoodGeard I would love to know how to do it the ole' skool way!!! would e-mail me the setup??
thisolechevygotgoods@hotmail.com

RON WOODGEARD · 07-14-2004, 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thisolechevy

Wow Ron WoodGeard I would love to know how to do it the ole' skool way!!! would e-mail me the setup??
thisolechevygotgoods@hotmail.com

Really very simple, You need a spark plug at the end of your exhaust, About 6" to 12" from the end,(Both exhaust pipes if it's dualed) You'll need to weld in a "Bung" to screw the plug into.(we used Nuts) It will need to go through the exhaust tube. Now wire a Spare coil/s through a toggle switch, The coil wire will go to the Spark plug/s.
I had this set up on my 57 Ranchero, 312 Dual exhaust, with burned out Glasspacks. I would turn the key off, pump the gas a few times to get extra fuel into the exhaust, ( some guys just ran their carbs real rich on the bottom end, and didn't turn their ignition off and on) then after turning the key back on, hit the switch to fire the plugs in the exhaust. I had a friend that welded in a fitting in just ahead of the spark plug for a 1/4" copper tubing, then he hooked the other end to the windshield washer . That one always scared the heck outa me... Some guys used two plugs in each tailpipe also.

Cethern · 07-14-2004, 03:33 AM

I'm guessing you missed the Trucks! show where Sandy did this on a old pickup. someone makes a kit to just that if you go to their web site you mite find it in a back show area or something.

In short the kit had a deal to cut the igntion off for a short bit and a spark plug in the exhust pipe.

Cethern

Putter · 07-14-2004, 08:56 AM

AutoLoc sells the electronic kit featured on TRUCKS!

AutoLoc

thisolechevy · 07-14-2004, 12:12 PM

Yeah I've seen the kit but I don't want to pay$100-120 for something I know I can do. And by the way Ron WoodGeard you said "coil/s" one for each exhaust pipe???

RON WOODGEARD · 07-14-2004, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thisolechevy

Yeah I've seen the kit but I don't want to pay$100-120 for something I know I can do. And by the way Ron WoodGeard you said "coil/s" one for each exhaust pipe???

Yes, And of course mount them back by the end of the exhaust within sparkplug wire distance from the plug/s.

Cethern,
If you'll read my earlier post I said there was a couple of companies that already make a kit, with new electronics...

Shawn.
Your link didn't go through.

*rickspickuppart* · 07-14-2004, 04:01 PM

I just tried the link and it worked for me - but Oh well, if it doesnt work search for "Flame Thrower" on Ebay the kit is 40.00. I don't know anything about the guy selling them or even if they work, but it looks all electronic and it seems safer than injecting some form of fuel into the exhaust system to make flames.

Shawn

RON WOODGEARD · 07-14-2004, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickspickuppart

I just tried the link and it worked for me - but Oh well, if it doesnt work search for "Flame Thrower" on Ebay the kit is 40.00. I don't know anything about the guy selling them or even if they work, but it looks all electronic and it seems safer than injecting some form of fuel into the exhaust system to make flames.

Shawn

Thanks Shawn, It's working this time.

Putter · 07-14-2004, 04:05 PM

Looking at the E-bay kit, do the fittings on that look like metal conduit fittings to anyone else? The kind you get at Home Depot in the electrical section?

RON WOODGEARD · 07-14-2004, 11:54 PM

I emailed the guy on Ebay and asked three questions, How does the system work ? how is it activated? and what is included in the Kit if I have to furnish my own Coil/s???

Here is the response I received.........

Hello,

Our kits work on a relay system which in sense
does the same thing as a
Control Box but in a manner which allows us to
give you the best possible
price for an exhaust flame thrower.

--
Thank You,
Brian (Sales)
www.digital-bling.com

I have emailed him again for a better answer, But It sounds as if he's doing exactly as I have told you guys we Used to do it....

PUTTER,,,,

Yes those pieces do look like conduit connections !!!
Hell, maybe I should throw some wire , a couple of conduit connectors, and a Relay and go to ebay also......

Blackhawkdc · 07-15-2004, 07:02 PM

[QUOTE=RON WOODGEARD]I emailed the guy on Ebay and asked three questions, How does the system work ? how is it activated? and what is included in the Kit if I have to furnish my own Coil/s???
QUOTE]

You're old buddy that hooked up a copper tube to the washer fluid. Did he use just straight washer fluid in it? Also, how did he control the flow? Any valves or anything? Or just a pump that you could turn on and off? Any info would be great. I am working towards that set up cause I don't feel like running my engine richer than it needs to be, hurts the performance. Its a street/strip truck. I also don't want to be having to turn the ignition on and off. I want flames when I'm accelerating from a stop light. Thanks for any info you can remember!

Seth Petro

67ChevyC10Stepside · 07-15-2004, 07:55 PM

how does windshield washer fluid work i didnt know that stuff was flammable.....

Blackhawkdc · 07-15-2004, 11:05 PM

windshield washer fluid is basically Methyl Alcohol. There maybe other types of washer fluid out now, but that's the main one. The fluid you can get at Walmart for 99 cents a gallon.

Thanks Ron, I'll check into that one way check valve. See if I can't find one.

07-13-2004, 07:08 PM	#1
Blackhawkdc 440 american Horses Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Anoka, MN USA Posts: 470	Flamin exhaust Hey all, just now tweaking my system for flame shooting exhaust. I've got the ignition system all dialed in for it, just tweaking the carb now and a couple other things to produce some moderate flames on acceleration. Who all out there would be interested in a system like this, should I market it? Any of you out there whom have played with flames before ever played with injecting gas or windshield washer fluid into the exhaust to get the really nice long flames? I've got some ideas for that, just want to tweak the carb to produce flames on its on first. But let me know what kind of interest there is in this and I may put together a kit, or at least diagrams and instructions for sale. Happy shootin, Seth Petro __________________ Seth Petro 1969 Chev Short Step 425hp 350, TH400, big tires, fast truck 1979 Pontiac Trans Am 1991 Saturn SL1 - gas mileage! (and free) 1977 Buick LeSabre - for sale May America bless God, and may God bless America

07-13-2004, 07:36 PM	#2
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	injecting windsheild washer fluid?? all that does is steam because it's soapy water !! make sure you keep a fire extinguisher handy for when you set the truck on fire . and start savin for a new set of heads when you burn the valvesup!! otherwise it sounds like you're on top of it!!! __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

07-13-2004, 09:47 PM	#5
BtnkBndt Pennyless Fool Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Forney,Tx Posts: 439	Bowl a Pintos and a BIC will do it too. __________________ "Who owns this car with the peace sign, the mag wheels, and four on the floor?" 67 Short Step 283/TH400/4.11 Last edited by BtnkBndt; 07-13-2004 at 09:51 PM. Reason: reep bop anna skittle dee dum du bee

07-14-2004, 06:11 PM	#7
vtblazer Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Central Vermont Posts: 8,538	Flames WHY?

07-13-2004, 11:26 PM	#9
thisolechevy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Gainesville, Fl Posts: 382	Wow Ron WoodGeard I would love to know how to do it the ole' skool way!!! would e-mail me the setup?? thisolechevygotgoods@hotmail.com __________________ Man I need another 67-72!!!

07-13-2004, 07:42 PM	#3
rickspickuppart Account Suspended Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,284	here is a link to a guy selling the kit on Ebay for $40.00 (it sounds alot safer than injecting flamable liquids into the exhaust). LINK Shawn

07-13-2004, 07:47 PM	#4
RON WOODGEARD Resident Young Old Dude ! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nevada Posts: 1,948	Blackhawk, There are a few systems already out for just this, And We OLD timers didn't use the new computer stuff they are today, It was a Rich carb and an extra coil hooked to a Spark Plug through a toggle switch. I never knew or heard of anyone doing any damage whatsoever to anything in the Motor, or exhaust,, But then again, I sure didn't know everyone out there using the Old time method. I'd be happy to let everyone know what my old time hook up was, Free of charge.. But they say the new computer set ups are really great, and you don't have to run the carb rich..

07-14-2004, 03:33 AM	#11
Cethern What was I thinking?? Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Commerce City Co Posts: 637	I'm guessing you missed the Trucks! show where Sandy did this on a old pickup. someone makes a kit to just that if you go to their web site you mite find it in a back show area or something. In short the kit had a deal to cut the igntion off for a short bit and a spark plug in the exhust pipe. Cethern __________________ 72 K5 that needs lots of parts.. 71 GMC 3/4 4x4 That doesn't need much which is a good thing I don't think I could aford another money pit...

07-14-2004, 08:56 AM	#12
Putter More Cowbell.... Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Puckett, MS Posts: 3,569	AutoLoc sells the electronic kit featured on TRUCKS! AutoLoc __________________ *There once was a member from Puckett.....Who ( fill in the blank blank blank* ) bucket**

07-14-2004, 12:12 PM	#13
thisolechevy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Gainesville, Fl Posts: 382	Yeah I've seen the kit but I don't want to pay$100-120 for something I know I can do. And by the way Ron WoodGeard you said "coil/s" one for each exhaust pipe??? __________________ Man I need another 67-72!!!

07-14-2004, 04:01 PM	#15
rickspickuppart Account Suspended Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,284	I just tried the link and it worked for me - but Oh well, if it doesnt work search for "Flame Thrower" on Ebay the kit is 40.00. I don't know anything about the guy selling them or even if they work, but it looks all electronic and it seems safer than injecting some form of fuel into the exhaust system to make flames. Shawn Last edited by rickspickuppart; 07-14-2004 at 04:04 PM.

07-14-2004, 04:05 PM	#17
Putter More Cowbell.... Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Puckett, MS Posts: 3,569	Looking at the E-bay kit, do the fittings on that look like metal conduit fittings to anyone else? The kind you get at Home Depot in the electrical section? __________________ *There once was a member from Puckett.....Who ( fill in the blank blank blank* ) bucket**

07-14-2004, 11:54 PM	#18
RON WOODGEARD Resident Young Old Dude ! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nevada Posts: 1,948	I emailed the guy on Ebay and asked three questions, How does the system work ? how is it activated? and what is included in the Kit if I have to furnish my own Coil/s??? Here is the response I received......... Hello, Our kits work on a relay system which in sense does the same thing as a Control Box but in a manner which allows us to give you the best possible price for an exhaust flame thrower. -- Thank You, Brian (Sales) www.digital-bling.com I have emailed him again for a better answer, But It sounds as if he's doing exactly as I have told you guys we Used to do it.... PUTTER,,,, Yes those pieces do look like conduit connections !!! Hell, maybe I should throw some wire , a couple of conduit connectors, and a Relay and go to ebay also......

07-15-2004, 07:02 PM	#19
Blackhawkdc 440 american Horses Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Anoka, MN USA Posts: 470	[QUOTE=RON WOODGEARD]I emailed the guy on Ebay and asked three questions, How does the system work ? how is it activated? and what is included in the Kit if I have to furnish my own Coil/s??? QUOTE] You're old buddy that hooked up a copper tube to the washer fluid. Did he use just straight washer fluid in it? Also, how did he control the flow? Any valves or anything? Or just a pump that you could turn on and off? Any info would be great. I am working towards that set up cause I don't feel like running my engine richer than it needs to be, hurts the performance. Its a street/strip truck. I also don't want to be having to turn the ignition on and off. I want flames when I'm accelerating from a stop light. Thanks for any info you can remember! Seth Petro __________________ Seth Petro 1969 Chev Short Step 425hp 350, TH400, big tires, fast truck 1979 Pontiac Trans Am 1991 Saturn SL1 - gas mileage! (and free) 1977 Buick LeSabre - for sale May America bless God, and may God bless America

07-15-2004, 07:55 PM	#20
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07-15-2004, 11:05 PM	#21
Blackhawkdc 440 american Horses Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Anoka, MN USA Posts: 470	windshield washer fluid is basically Methyl Alcohol. There maybe other types of washer fluid out now, but that's the main one. The fluid you can get at Walmart for 99 cents a gallon. Thanks Ron, I'll check into that one way check valve. See if I can't find one. __________________ Seth Petro 1969 Chev Short Step 425hp 350, TH400, big tires, fast truck 1979 Pontiac Trans Am 1991 Saturn SL1 - gas mileage! (and free) 1977 Buick LeSabre - for sale May America bless God, and may God bless America

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