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1987SierraClassic · 09-20-2004, 10:56 PM

Greetings! This is my first post to this forum. I've read some great stuff here!

I have a 1987 GMC Sierra Classic 1/2 4x4 in the body shop at this very moment. I've had her since new and finally gathered enough parts to attempt a restoration. After disassebly, we discovered that the fenders were starting to go bad from the inside (life in the rust belt!). I've tried to source OEM sheet metal, but the fenders have been discontinued (a word very commonly heard at the parts counter when you own old iron!).

Has anyone had any experience with aftermarket sheet metal? Any recommendations?

Many thanks in advance!

GMCLS1 · 09-20-2004, 11:08 PM

Try www.chevyduty.com or www.lmctruck.com. You should be able to order new fenders there.

Jonboy · 09-20-2004, 11:13 PM

you might want to try a new parts man. I know for sure you can still get them for the 73-80 trucks. I would bet 81-87 are still available, but the numbers may have superceded to something else.

**N2TRUX** · 09-20-2004, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonboy

you might want to try a new parts man. I know for sure you can still get them for the 73-80 trucks. I would bet 81-87 are still available, but the numbers may have superceded to something else.

1987SierraClassic welcome to the forum. Jonboy is the resident pro when it comes to active GM parts numbers. Get another parts guy to look a little harder.
Also take a look on Ebay. I have found a few NOS sets on there recently....

Jonboy · 09-20-2004, 11:54 PM

for aftermarket stuff, try www.keystone-auto.com . They have a line of parts called "platinum Plus" that generally fit very well. I use Keystone parts here at my shop also.

1987SierraClassic · 09-21-2004, 12:04 AM

Jonboy, I just looked at the locator sheet that the dealer faxed me (trying to find them on a dealer shelf!) and wouldn't y'know, there's a little symbol near the part number. The legend tells me that the symbol means "There is supersession information for this part". Perhaps it's time to educate the parts man! The part numbers that they gave me are 15614467 for the LH side and 15634642.

GMCLS1 - I have the LMC catalog in hand! I was wondering what the quality was like. I haven't purchased any sheet metal from them.

N2TRUX - Thanks for the welcome! Ebay is wonderful! That's where most of my NOS parts came from. Got 2 OEM doors for $400! Gee whiz, how big is your garage!

____________________
In my garage (well, they'll be there when I build it!)

'87 GMC V1500
'89 Chevy Suburban V1500

78SilveradoSWB · 09-21-2004, 12:12 AM

Go to GMpartsdirect.com and plug in the part numbers. According to them, they have them.

Also Welcome to the Board.

Blue Beard · 09-21-2004, 01:50 AM

Welcome to the board from SW Washington State...

Try Goodmark Industries

Jonboy · 09-21-2004, 02:21 AM

Goodmark fenders were Taiwan about a year ago. They were working on making their own fenders and doors, but not sure how that went. Ask Chris (capt. kaos), he is a dealer for them.

**Captkaos** · 09-21-2004, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonboy

Goodmark fenders were Taiwan about a year ago. They were working on making their own fenders and doors, but not sure how that went. Ask Chris (capt. kaos), he is a dealer for them.

Goodmark has their own stamping for the fenders and the quality is better than the "normal" fenders. Of course they only have these for the 73-80 right now.

1987SierraClassic · 09-21-2004, 02:35 AM

Blue Beard - Greetings from Southern Maine! I've heard of GoodMark...wasn't sure about the quality. I'll take a look.

Jonboy - If the part number has been superceeded, how would I find the new number? I looked up the number I have on Partsvoice.com and it didn't show any new numbers.

cliffsta · 09-21-2004, 04:06 AM

welcome from Louisiana.

I just got the new LMC (fall edition) in today. But i only use it for reference as Chevy Duty and Classic Industries are both much cheaper.
ON the sheet metal: From what i hear, reproduction sheet metal tends to run a lighter gauge steel, but that's not always the case. I don't see anything wrong with repro pieces in that unless you thrash your stuff or get into wrecks

then it should be OK.

Jonboy · 09-21-2004, 04:35 AM

Sometimes teh A/M sheetmetalis a lighter gauge, and it may or may not fit as well. Of course, these trucks didn't fit together the best, even when new. OEM may not fit really great compared to new vehicles. Of course, the new GM trucks don't fit together really well either. I will check on teh part numbers for your fenders in the morning. I didn't see this thread until my parts guy had gone for the day.

On a side note, I am planning on using OEM fenders (because they have really come down in price) and aftermarket inners, doors, and probably the apron panel as well. The A/M doors are not so bad, especially if you can spray them with something inside or dynomat them (or something similar).

1987SierraClassic · 09-21-2004, 06:04 AM

Jonboy- Thanks for checking out those part numbers, I really appreciate it! I agree, they didn't fit together the best to begin with, but I want this truck as perfect as I can get it! I have to replace the bed sides and I'm forced to go with aftermarket on those (discontinued as well), but my body shop says they'll be undetectable as such...we shall see! My ride has served me well since it showed 0 miles on the clock...now she's got 185,000. It holds much sentimental value which is why it's getting the resto!
The local dealer listed the OEM fenders at $299 each! If you can get a better deal than that, I want in on it!

I scored some OEM doors on ebay. My body shop uses a product by SEM. It's Internal Panel Coating p/n 39573. I used it on my Suburban. It is supposed to seal the crimped and welded seams at the edges of the panels. So far it's worked well.

cliffsta - No thrashing or wrecks (none planned anyway!) here! The only thing this truck hauls is me! It leads a very gentle life!

cliffsta · 09-22-2004, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1987SierraClassic

Jonboy- I have to replace the bed sides and I'm forced to go with aftermarket on those (discontinued as well), but my body shop says they'll be undetectable as such...we shall see!
cliffsta - No thrashing or wrecks (none planned anyway!) here! The only thing this truck hauls is me! It leads a very gentle life!

LMAO @ the thrashing part. I am very easy on red, other than giving it a lot of gas every now and then, but i tend to feather the throttle 90 % of the time.
On bedsides:
I FEEL YOUR PAIN BROTHER! I need like, a whole new bed; wood, strips, bedsides. THE JOYS OF A STEPPIE!
A guy has a 78 steppie custum deluxe (the twin of ol red, except his is blue) for sale out the highway a bit, maybe this weekend i'll go ask him about it, might beg the old people to buy it so i can use it as a parts truck. I haven't looked closely at it, but it looked VERY clean for a 78. I am really hoping i can find used bedsides in good shape as new bedsides aren't cheap.

1987SierraClassic · 09-22-2004, 01:54 AM

My truck has had an easy life compared to most I've seen. The ol' 4.3V6 puffs blue smoke when it starts, but that's the only time, she pulls strong otherwise. I think it's time for valve guide seals...again. Toying with the idea of a 350 swap later on if the body work doesn't break the bank!

You'd think that GM would keep some parts around...I see trucks like ours on the road all the time...there are millions of them still out there!!!

Try to find some fender emblems that say "Sierra Classic 1500" for an '87 GMC...that is an exercise in pain a frustration!!! I share the pain of owning old iron with all of my bretheren out there!

I just saw a stepside bed complete for $800 on eBay. Probably an aftermarket for that price, but it's new with new wood. Worth a peek?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...sPageName=WDVW

I found some used rust-free Texas fenders on eBay...I may go that route rather than aftermarket. My bed looks fine, but when they started grinding, they found those tiny rust holes that are soon to be giant ones. I took a look at the aftermarket bedsides today and they look surprisingly good. I'm going to put new springs in while the bed is off to save myself some pain later on!

c-1072 · 09-22-2004, 02:00 AM

Wow i dont know what the mark up is but i just a month ago checked on some nos fenders for a 80 and they were only 178.00 a piece conway gmc rochester ny

Tx Firefighter · 09-21-2004, 12:14 PM

I used new GM fenders, doors, and hood on my Blazer. Every part fit with no modifications.

In 14 years, I have never installed an aftermarket body panel that didn't need some fitting to make it right.

Find a better parts guy for you dealership parts. Sounds like the one you're using now is a wank.

Jonboy · 09-21-2004, 01:46 PM

part numbers are 15614467-LH ($299.44) and 15634642-RH ($290.02). Hope that helps.

bigblock73 · 09-21-2004, 01:53 PM

87sierraclassic...welcome to the board from Minnesota.

Where are you from anyhow? (it isn't in your profile)

I would definately go with GM metal wherever possible...you cannot beat the fit and finish IMO. If I were you, I would look for some on E-bay...I too have seen some, and they have been very reasonable in price (compared to new GM parts).

1987SierraClassic · 09-21-2004, 02:12 PM

Bigblock73 - Buxton, Maine is where I hang my hat! I'm trying like heck to get some GM steel!

Jonboy - Those are the numbers that I gave earlier in the thread that my dealer says are 'discontinued'. Did your parts guy say that they were discontinued? I found one on a dealer shelf in MA and they want $364.00 for it. Everyone says they are available from GM except my GM dealer! Go figure!

Jonboy · 09-21-2004, 02:35 PM

I dunno. That's the numbers he gave me this morning. Not sure why they don't want to sell you any parts. Doesn't make any sense to me.

1987SierraClassic · 09-21-2004, 02:42 PM

I'm not sure either. I like to give my local dealer the business, but I may end up going on line to buy. Luckily, the body shop is understanding about the time delays in obtaining quality metal (and tight budgets!) I emailed Goodmark yesterday to ask if their fenders were made overseas and they replied "Yes, if you want American made, the fenders are still available from GM".

I want to know why my dealer is out of the loop on this!

KShortell · 09-21-2004, 04:20 PM

One source for some NOS parts is Coleman's Surplus just northeast of Harrisburg, PA. They list a bunch of old CUCV parts from rotors to rear ends to engines to hoods. They list the '81-'87 hoods for $79.

I've actually been up there and bought some stuff from them (non-auto). See Coleman's Military Surplus- Millersburg, PA for the auto section.

Good luck!

1987SierraClassic · 09-21-2004, 04:40 PM

KShortell - I know Coleman's well! I rebuilt my '89 Suburban front axle with stuff from them, which reminds me that I need to get some rotors from them for my '87! I can't visit their store...I'd come back with too much stuff!

09-20-2004, 10:56 PM	#1
1987SierraClassic Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Buxton, ME Posts: 91	New sheet metal Greetings! This is my first post to this forum. I've read some great stuff here! I have a 1987 GMC Sierra Classic 1/2 4x4 in the body shop at this very moment. I've had her since new and finally gathered enough parts to attempt a restoration. After disassebly, we discovered that the fenders were starting to go bad from the inside (life in the rust belt!). I've tried to source OEM sheet metal, but the fenders have been discontinued (a word very commonly heard at the parts counter when you own old iron!). Has anyone had any experience with aftermarket sheet metal? Any recommendations? Many thanks in advance!

09-20-2004, 11:08 PM	#2
GMCLS1 1987 GMC Sierra Classic Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: South Carolina Posts: 121	Try www.chevyduty.com or www.lmctruck.com. You should be able to order new fenders there. __________________ Gary L Hilton jr

09-20-2004, 11:13 PM	#3
Jonboy Slots go on anything! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 5,957	you might want to try a new parts man. I know for sure you can still get them for the 73-80 trucks. I would bet 81-87 are still available, but the numbers may have superceded to something else. __________________ 1974 Jimmy- 5.3/4L80e/NP241

09-20-2004, 11:54 PM	#5
Jonboy Slots go on anything! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 5,957	for aftermarket stuff, try www.keystone-auto.com . They have a line of parts called "platinum Plus" that generally fit very well. I use Keystone parts here at my shop also. __________________ 1974 Jimmy- 5.3/4L80e/NP241

09-21-2004, 12:12 AM	#7
78SilveradoSWB Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Beaverton, OR Posts: 1,615	Go to GMpartsdirect.com and plug in the part numbers. According to them, they have them. Also Welcome to the Board. __________________ Mitch 1978 Chevrolet Silverado C 10 454 BB, TH400

09-21-2004, 12:04 AM	#6
1987SierraClassic Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Buxton, ME Posts: 91	Jonboy, I just looked at the locator sheet that the dealer faxed me (trying to find them on a dealer shelf!) and wouldn't y'know, there's a little symbol near the part number. The legend tells me that the symbol means "There is supersession information for this part". Perhaps it's time to educate the parts man! The part numbers that they gave me are 15614467 for the LH side and 15634642. GMCLS1 - I have the LMC catalog in hand! I was wondering what the quality was like. I haven't purchased any sheet metal from them. N2TRUX - Thanks for the welcome! Ebay is wonderful! That's where most of my NOS parts came from. Got 2 OEM doors for $400! Gee whiz, how big is your garage! ____________________ In my garage (well, they'll be there when I build it!) '87 GMC V1500 '89 Chevy Suburban V1500

09-21-2004, 01:50 AM	#8
Blue Beard Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 8,834	Welcome to the board from SW Washington State... Try Goodmark Industries __________________ 1970 Chev CST 2003 Harley Fatboy 1975 Chevrolet Step Van 1956 Chev Bel Air 1977 Blazer 2WD For Sale $3000.00 1978 Blazer 2WD For Sale $7000.00 1978 Silverado 2005 Monte Carlo

09-21-2004, 02:21 AM	#9
Jonboy Slots go on anything! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 5,957	Goodmark fenders were Taiwan about a year ago. They were working on making their own fenders and doors, but not sure how that went. Ask Chris (capt. kaos), he is a dealer for them. __________________ 1974 Jimmy- 5.3/4L80e/NP241

09-21-2004, 02:35 AM	#11
1987SierraClassic Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Buxton, ME Posts: 91	Blue Beard - Greetings from Southern Maine! I've heard of GoodMark...wasn't sure about the quality. I'll take a look. Jonboy - If the part number has been superceeded, how would I find the new number? I looked up the number I have on Partsvoice.com and it didn't show any new numbers.

09-21-2004, 04:06 AM	#12
cliffsta Stepsides RULE Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pineville, LA Posts: 1,921	welcome from Louisiana. I just got the new LMC (fall edition) in today. But i only use it for reference as Chevy Duty and Classic Industries are both much cheaper. ON the sheet metal: From what i hear, reproduction sheet metal tends to run a lighter gauge steel, but that's not always the case. I don't see anything wrong with repro pieces in that unless you thrash your stuff or get into wrecks then it should be OK. __________________ 1981 Chevy C10 Custom Deluxe Stepside 350 V8, headers, side exhausts, 3-speed auto SOLD 1980 Chevy C10 Custum Deluxe Stepside 305 V8, Edelbrock Performer Intake, Edelbrock 1406 600CFM 4-barrel, TH350C. Bent rod. SOLD 1984 GMC Sierra Classic Longbed 6.2L Diesel SOLD 2009 Kawasaki KLX-250S too many mods for this signature 1999 Honda Accord EX 4-cylinder, 17" Motegi Wheels 215/45/17 Sumitomo tires, Tein S-Tech lowering springs, KYB GR2 shocks, Acura TL 20mm rear swaybar, debadged, blackhoused headlights, Short-Ram Intake Cardomain of the Accord

09-21-2004, 04:35 AM	#13
Jonboy Slots go on anything! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 5,957	Sometimes teh A/M sheetmetalis a lighter gauge, and it may or may not fit as well. Of course, these trucks didn't fit together the best, even when new. OEM may not fit really great compared to new vehicles. Of course, the new GM trucks don't fit together really well either. I will check on teh part numbers for your fenders in the morning. I didn't see this thread until my parts guy had gone for the day. On a side note, I am planning on using OEM fenders (because they have really come down in price) and aftermarket inners, doors, and probably the apron panel as well. The A/M doors are not so bad, especially if you can spray them with something inside or dynomat them (or something similar). __________________ 1974 Jimmy- 5.3/4L80e/NP241

09-21-2004, 06:04 AM	#14
1987SierraClassic Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Buxton, ME Posts: 91	Jonboy- Thanks for checking out those part numbers, I really appreciate it! I agree, they didn't fit together the best to begin with, but I want this truck as perfect as I can get it! I have to replace the bed sides and I'm forced to go with aftermarket on those (discontinued as well), but my body shop says they'll be undetectable as such...we shall see! My ride has served me well since it showed 0 miles on the clock...now she's got 185,000. It holds much sentimental value which is why it's getting the resto! The local dealer listed the OEM fenders at $299 each! If you can get a better deal than that, I want in on it! I scored some OEM doors on ebay. My body shop uses a product by SEM. It's Internal Panel Coating p/n 39573. I used it on my Suburban. It is supposed to seal the crimped and welded seams at the edges of the panels. So far it's worked well. cliffsta - No thrashing or wrecks (none planned anyway!) here! The only thing this truck hauls is me! It leads a very gentle life!

09-22-2004, 01:54 AM	#16
1987SierraClassic Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Buxton, ME Posts: 91	My truck has had an easy life compared to most I've seen. The ol' 4.3V6 puffs blue smoke when it starts, but that's the only time, she pulls strong otherwise. I think it's time for valve guide seals...again. Toying with the idea of a 350 swap later on if the body work doesn't break the bank! You'd think that GM would keep some parts around...I see trucks like ours on the road all the time...there are millions of them still out there!!! Try to find some fender emblems that say "Sierra Classic 1500" for an '87 GMC...that is an exercise in pain a frustration!!! I share the pain of owning old iron with all of my bretheren out there! I just saw a stepside bed complete for $800 on eBay. Probably an aftermarket for that price, but it's new with new wood. Worth a peek? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...sPageName=WDVW I found some used rust-free Texas fenders on eBay...I may go that route rather than aftermarket. My bed looks fine, but when they started grinding, they found those tiny rust holes that are soon to be giant ones. I took a look at the aftermarket bedsides today and they look surprisingly good. I'm going to put new springs in while the bed is off to save myself some pain later on!

09-22-2004, 02:00 AM	#17
c-1072 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: rochester NY Posts: 777	gm fenders Wow i dont know what the mark up is but i just a month ago checked on some nos fenders for a 80 and they were only 178.00 a piece conway gmc rochester ny

09-21-2004, 12:14 PM	#18
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	I used new GM fenders, doors, and hood on my Blazer. Every part fit with no modifications. In 14 years, I have never installed an aftermarket body panel that didn't need some fitting to make it right. Find a better parts guy for you dealership parts. Sounds like the one you're using now is a wank. __________________ I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin



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09-21-2004, 01:46 PM	#19
Jonboy Slots go on anything! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 5,957	part numbers are 15614467-LH ($299.44) and 15634642-RH ($290.02). Hope that helps. __________________ 1974 Jimmy- 5.3/4L80e/NP241

09-21-2004, 01:53 PM	#20
bigblock73 yeller Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Twin Cities Posts: 13,826	87sierraclassic...welcome to the board from Minnesota. Where are you from anyhow? (it isn't in your profile) I would definately go with GM metal wherever possible...you cannot beat the fit and finish IMO. If I were you, I would look for some on E-bay...I too have seen some, and they have been very reasonable in price (compared to new GM parts). __________________ Jeff 73-87.com 73-87.com Facebook page 73-87 cab corner 6x9 speaker brackets for sale 67-72 cab corner speaker brackets for sale 47-54 cab corner speaker brackets for sale

09-21-2004, 02:12 PM	#21
1987SierraClassic Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Buxton, ME Posts: 91	Bigblock73 - Buxton, Maine is where I hang my hat! I'm trying like heck to get some GM steel! Jonboy - Those are the numbers that I gave earlier in the thread that my dealer says are 'discontinued'. Did your parts guy say that they were discontinued? I found one on a dealer shelf in MA and they want $364.00 for it. Everyone says they are available from GM except my GM dealer! Go figure!

09-21-2004, 02:35 PM	#22
Jonboy Slots go on anything! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 5,957	I dunno. That's the numbers he gave me this morning. Not sure why they don't want to sell you any parts. Doesn't make any sense to me. __________________ 1974 Jimmy- 5.3/4L80e/NP241

09-21-2004, 02:42 PM	#23
1987SierraClassic Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Buxton, ME Posts: 91	I'm not sure either. I like to give my local dealer the business, but I may end up going on line to buy. Luckily, the body shop is understanding about the time delays in obtaining quality metal (and tight budgets!) I emailed Goodmark yesterday to ask if their fenders were made overseas and they replied "Yes, if you want American made, the fenders are still available from GM". I want to know why my dealer is out of the loop on this!

09-21-2004, 04:20 PM	#24
KShortell Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 726	One source for some NOS parts is Coleman's Surplus just northeast of Harrisburg, PA. They list a bunch of old CUCV parts from rotors to rear ends to engines to hoods. They list the '81-'87 hoods for $79. I've actually been up there and bought some stuff from them (non-auto). See Coleman's Military Surplus- Millersburg, PA for the auto section. Good luck! __________________ Semper Paratus

09-21-2004, 04:40 PM	#25
1987SierraClassic Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Buxton, ME Posts: 91	KShortell - I know Coleman's well! I rebuilt my '89 Suburban front axle with stuff from them, which reminds me that I need to get some rotors from them for my '87! I can't visit their store...I'd come back with too much stuff!

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